More Dr - Still The Truth?

[Medavoym]

Dear Jim,

As many people know I am a big supporter or RED, one of many here on Reduser.net. I am behind the team 100%, and nothing will change that one bit. I am sure you will finish this massive project and deliver an eathquake to the industry soon.

However, I must say I was puzzled to say the least when reading your thread "Schedule". Actually I am surprised nobody picked up on that so far, at least to my knowledge (which is something good, showing what amazing support and leeway you get from us, the RED fans). But let me explain myself.

You said a short while ago that you decided to redesign a board completely, to give it a new spin in order to achieve more dynamic range and less noise. Everyone (including myself) was elated, even though that meant a delay for both the reservation holders and those with an order. Slowly, you admited to more problems - problems with suppliers and so on (totally understandable). All good so far. As you saw, no one had any problems with it.

BUT - in the thread "Schedule" - you actually admitted that you suffered an unexpected failure at one of the boards, and it was in truth because of this fact that you had to order a complete new design for the board, to give it a new "spin". Unfortunately - and to be brutally honest - it is now pretty obvious that when the team suffered this surprising malfunction, RED decided to hide the truth and say to us that this board is being redone for more dynmic range. In the long run it proved to be the wrong choice, as you had to revert back to the truth in the end.

Now, this is again understandable. Every company would have done the same. Hell, I wold have done exactly the same had I been the leader of RED (yeah, I know I'm not :-)) BUT - given the superb track record of you being totally honest with us from the very beginning, not hiding anything good or bad - I must say I am a tiny bit disappointed with this incident going against your policy so far. I'm sure everyone here would have understood the setback from day one when it happened. And in fact I'm sure you, too, are a bit disappointed that for once you chose not to tell the truth. Of course, you were not obliged to do so; but being used to being told the truth constantly, one gets used to it :-)

THE MAIN THING, I hope the "more dynamic" range is still one of the reasons for the delay, and not just a ploy as - to be blunt again - it seems right now in retrospect.

I hope no one will get angry with me on this board, since I just tried to point out a thing that was not right, in my humble opinion. Healthy criticism is always a good thing. I remain one of the greatest fans along with everyone else here,

Mike

[Emmanuel Cambier]

I don't think Jim could afford to mention "more dynamic range" without delivering in the end.
The two problems may very well have been just that: "two different problems".

My 2 cents

Emmanuel

[Jarred Land]

Mike.. your completely off base and dont know your facts.. Jim has never been dishonest with you guys as you are suggesting and has been more than open with everyone, publicly, more than any other company in this industry ever has been.

Comments like this however, will encourage him to stop.

The redesign of the board since before NAB has always been, and still is, to extend our dynamic range and reduce noise. Of course we are going to fix other problems that we discover along the way at the same time.

Since im not sure if your trolling or not.. and it doesn't really matter if your not, Im going to close this down immediately, as nothing good can come out of this.

[Jannard]

I really didn't want to waste my time on this... BUT

Dear Jim,

As many people know I am a big supporter or RED, one of many here on Reduser.net. I am behind the team 100%, and nothing will change that one bit. I am sure you will finish this massive project and deliver an eathquake to the industry soon.
Good so far...

However, I must say I was puzzled to say the least when reading your thread "Schedule". Actually I am surprised nobody picked up on that so far, at least to my knowledge (which is something good, showing what amazing support and leeway you get from us, the RED fans). But let me explain myself.
OK... ?

You said a short while ago that you decided to redesign a board completely, to give it a new spin in order to achieve more dynamic range and less noise. Everyone (including myself) was elated, even though that meant a delay for both the reservation holders and those with an order. Slowly, you admited to more problems - problems with suppliers and so on (totally understandable). All good so far. As you saw, no one had any problems with it.
and...

BUT - in the thread "Schedule" - you actually admitted that you suffered an unexpected failure at one of the boards, and it was in truth because of this fact that you had to order a complete new design for the board, to give it a new "spin". Unfortunately - and to be brutally honest - it is now pretty obvious that when the team suffered this surprising malfunction, RED decided to hide the truth and say to us that this board is being redone for more dynmic range. In the long run it proved to be the wrong choice, as you had to revert back to the truth in the end.

Here is where you go on my shit list.

1st off... Our "surprise failure" was a production board that had a bit more noise than we had expected. BUT, we could have finished the camera and started shipping with these production sensor boards... PJ's film was shot on these boards and no one complained. My idea of a "failure" and yours might be a bit different. If I had used the term slight disappointment, would that have avoiding this conspiracy theory? If something doesn't meet my expectation, I consider it a failure. In this case, "others" would kill for our failures.

Graeme had an idea to increase dynamic range so we took the opportunity to re-design the sensor board with the goal of both increasing dynamic range and beating Frankie's noise level...

I think I posted something like, "we delayed to improve dynamic range and reduce noise by re-designing our sensor board". Which was, and still is, true.

Your story, built on my words, paints quite a bit different story. And it kind of pisses me off, truth be known.

Now, this is again understandable. Every company would have done the same. Hell, I wold have done exactly the same had I been the leader of RED (yeah, I know I'm not :-)) BUT - given the superb track record of you being totally honest with us from the very beginning, not hiding anything good or bad - I must say I am a tiny bit disappointed with this incident going against your policy so far. I'm sure everyone here would have understood the setback from day one when it happened. And in fact I'm sure you, too, are a bit disappointed that for once you chose not to tell the truth. Of course, you were not obliged to do so; but being used to being told the truth constantly, one gets used to it :-)
Please understand that I don't know you, but I'm quite disappointed at your detective work. Just so you know.

Jim

THE MAIN THING, I hope the "more dynamic" range is still one of the reasons for the delay, and not just a ploy as - to be blunt again - it seems right now in retrospect.

I hope no one will get angry with me on this board, since I just tried to point out a thing that was not right, in my humble opinion. Healthy criticism is always a good thing. I remain one of the greatest fans along with everyone else here,

Mike