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Keith Alan Morris
05-27-2007, 06:07 PM
pardon my rookie lens question...my wife has the nikon AF nikkor 28-200mm lens for her still camera and i am wondering if it will work with my Red?

Brook Willard
05-27-2007, 06:13 PM
If the lens has the standard Nikon F Mount, it should work fine with the RED ONE using the "RED F Mount" optics adapter which will be available for $500.

Keith Alan Morris
05-27-2007, 07:13 PM
another dumb question: how do you tell if it has the standard Nikon F Mount? (the camera is a Nikon N90 S.)

Emanuel A.
05-27-2007, 08:15 PM
Maybe searching @google?

;-)

EDIT -- Perhaps it may seem I'm kidding but I'm not at all. Google is a good tool for all over information. :-)

chuck colburn
05-27-2007, 08:24 PM
Unless I'm mistaken, (it happened once) I believe a Nikon mount is a Nikon mount, (except for the old "S" mount which was a screw mount).

Keith Alan Morris
05-27-2007, 08:46 PM
thanks chuck, google (yes, i checked before i posted) gave me different answers, and never mentioned the "F mount."

Emanuel A.
05-27-2007, 09:00 PM
Maybe 'cause the F mount is the most known denomination BUT between who has need for conversions and technical data. Especially from the motion picture side regarding the SLR's tele skills. Beyond that, I'd take the Chuck's information as the right one. I've never heard in any way other than as that. But they're just my $2.

J. Bernard Vallon
05-27-2007, 09:30 PM
Nikon hasn't really changed there mount in something like 30 years. So, if its AF (auto-focus), it is certainly F-mount.

http://www.nikonusa.com/template.php?cat=1&grp=5&productNr=2143#

I think this is your wife's lens, yes? The problem with putting this on a RED is there is no manually controlled aperture ring, so you couldn't control the aperture. Unlike most dSLRs, the red will not control things like focus an aperture electrically, its up to the user.

Birger is designing an F-mount to solve this problem, but it is in R & D

Keith Alan Morris
05-27-2007, 10:44 PM
Nikon hasn't really changed there mount in something like 30 years. So, if its AF (auto-focus), it is certainly F-mount.

http://www.nikonusa.com/template.php?cat=1&grp=5&productNr=2143#

I think this is your wife's lens, yes? The problem with putting this on a RED is there is no manually controlled aperture ring, so you couldn't control the aperture. Unlike most dSLRs, the red will not control things like focus an aperture electrically, its up to the user.

Birger is designing an F-mount to solve this problem, but it is in R & D

yes, thats the lens.

so, i'm screwed... i really thought i had a usable lens right under my nose. damn.

chuck colburn
05-27-2007, 10:53 PM
yes, thats the lens.

so, i'm screwed... i really thought i had a usable lens right under my nose. damn.


Leave your wifes camera alone damnit and buy your own lenses.lol
Look thru the lens tests (Evins) posts and you will see that there are many relativily inexspensive manual Nikon lenses out there that will work with the RED Nikon mount.

Steven M. Bailey
05-27-2007, 11:00 PM
Any lens with a G series is to be avoided as it has auto aperature and can't be user controlled. Also you may want to look at the D series f2.8(faster Glass) ED(higher qaulity Glass) IF(less breathing).

I have been out bid on alot of lenses on E-bay lately and have done some homework. I'm not an expert but I hope this helps.

Keith Alan Morris
05-27-2007, 11:23 PM
steven, what 2 lenses would you get from this link (i want massively shallow DOF and a standard):

http://www.nikonusa.com/template.php?cat=1&grp=5

Steven M. Bailey
05-27-2007, 11:55 PM
Wide-Angle Zoom Lenses(from what I hear this is one of the best lenses made)
17-35mm f/2.8D ED-IF AF-S Zoom-Nikkor

This lens was not on the nikon site but can be found used and in good shape
80-200mm F/2.8D AF ED IF

From what I understand, the further the lens is from the censor, the shallower the depth of field thus the 80-200mm. (about $725.00 on e-bay)

This will be accentuated by the distance from the sensor already. I think you multiply 1.56 to the Zoom making it approx. 120-300mm.

This gives you one hell of a Zoom and the potential for a very shallow DOF.

Because of the conversion rate I would also get a 14mm F/2.8 prime giving me 21mm for wide angle.

The only other lens I am looking at is the 28-70mm F2.8D AF ED IF.
Just to sew up the middle.

Again I am not a pro. This is all from hours of research, and trying to understand.

Keith Alan Morris
05-28-2007, 12:09 AM
wow, thanks for the sharing in research! i promise to not outbid you on ebay. i'm a cheap bastard.

Steven M. Bailey
05-28-2007, 12:12 AM
Me too. But I'll catch them sleeping one day

Keith Alan Morris
05-28-2007, 12:15 AM
thats what i always think but no dice. i've been trying to get a little sony handycam dcr-dvd for my nephews for MONTHS. i always get outbid at the last second. i need a stopwatch or something...

Stephen Williams
05-28-2007, 02:34 AM
From what I understand, the further the lens is from the censor, the shallower the depth of field thus the 80-200mm. (about $725.00 on e-bay)



Hi,

With a physically long lens, the front nodal point of the lens is closer to the subject. The image will be bigger and have a shallower DOF. Moving the camera a few inches closer to the subject will have the same effect with a prime lens.

Stephen

Steven M. Bailey
05-28-2007, 04:01 AM
Hi,

With a physically long lens, the front nodal point of the lens is closer to the subject. The image will be bigger and have a shallower DOF. Moving the camera a few inches closer to the subject will have the same effect with a prime lens.

Stephen

I believe that the depth of field comes from the spatial relationship between the the focal light coming through lens and the sensor. The shape of that light when it reaches the sensor is determined based on the curviture of the lens and the distance it must travel to reach the sensor from said lens. Your aperature also affects this rellationship as it also changes the shape of the light at the back side. This relationship determines what is in focus and what is not dependant on the proximity of the outside object. Moving the camera does not change the depth of field per-say but rather what is found within that depth of field.

I am new at this, but I have studied alot, please correct me if I am mistaken.:detective2:

Mick van Rossum, NSC
05-28-2007, 05:16 AM
thats what i always think but no dice. i've been trying to get a little sony handycam dcr-dvd for my nephews for MONTHS. i always get outbid at the last second. i need a stopwatch or something...

I know the feeling, most auctions are won in the last seconds, and since I started using an auctionsniper account I win 99% of the auctions. These programs will bid for you in the last seconds with a maximium price set by you, so no sleepless nights anymore...
good luck

Keith Alan Morris
05-29-2007, 07:12 PM
mick, i tried auction sniper and it worked! thanks! one site i spend too much time on DOWN, one to go!

Brook Willard
05-29-2007, 07:22 PM
Birger is designing an F-mount to solve this problem, but it is in R & D

The Birger mount is for Canon EOS lenses, AFAIK... unless they announced a different/additional mount?

Evin Grant
05-30-2007, 12:14 AM
Eric from Birger has mentioned making the same unit in the electronic Nikon mount.