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Medavoym
05-27-2007, 11:22 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zui4s0aLpr4&mode=related&search=
I think he predicted RED not YouTube...
:-)
Mike
Shawn Nelson
05-27-2007, 11:30 PM
Yeah, he was talking about ART, 99% of the shit on Youtube is anything but that...
So yeah, I agree with ya, he was more talking about the lineage of VX1000->DVX100/XL1->Red
Paris Remillard
05-28-2007, 08:08 AM
Yeah, I agree with both of you. I personally think that YouTube, or I suppose I should say the YouTube aesthetic, is the worst thing that has happened to media in general since the advent of "reality" TV. But, that's just me. To each his own.
And kids today with their crazy long hair and rock 'n roll music too. It's the apocalypse.
Paris Remillard
05-28-2007, 01:47 PM
I am a kid. And I have long hair...and I like the rock 'n roll music. But I just don't like the crappy, home movie, viral video stuff that make's up 99% of YouTube. But, as I said, just my opinion.
dalemccready
05-28-2007, 01:53 PM
it's great for interesting docos though, that you'd never otherwise see since they aren't great ratings fodder on tv
Ralph Oshiro
05-28-2007, 03:38 PM
YouTube is one of the most interesting and provocative social phenomena born of the internet. Some of the posts have helped to democratize news media coverage to a degree previously unimagineable. Hopefully, its online quality standards will improve as broadband connections become more pervasive.
Dave Cooper
05-28-2007, 05:33 PM
YouTube is one of the most interesting and provocative social phenomena born of the internet. Some of the posts have helped to democratize news media coverage to a degree previously unimagineable. Hopefully, its online quality standards will improve as broadband connections become more pervasive.
That sounds like something the YouTube PR would put out.
I doubt YouTube will amount to anymore more than what it is now. A dumping ground for home movies with a 100000:1 quality ratio. I really want to be proven wrong on that.
Tom Lowe
05-28-2007, 08:47 PM
I think Ralph is right. Youtube IS a very interesting phenomenon. And I also agree that its quality needs to be increased dramatically. Why not have 720x420 high-quality vids? Why no 720p? Google has plenty of cash and plenty of servers to boost youtube's horrendous image quality.
I mean, what's the point of watching high school girls do "booty shaking" vids if aint in HD?? :)
kmikami
05-28-2007, 09:00 PM
I doubt YouTube will amount to anymore more than what it is now. A dumping ground for home movies with a 100000:1 quality ratio.
Are you kidding? Sure there are a ton of pointless home videos, just like Google indexes millions of useless sites that you would never want to visit. But nobody is watching those videos. I have seen all kinds of amazing things on youtube that would never otherwise be available, like obscure music videos, foreign tv shows, difficult to find documentaries, old tv shows that aren't on DVD, and reportage of events that would never make it onto corporate news programs. Youtube may not hold onto it's position as the dominant site in this area but there's no doubt that this is the future of broadcasting. If you really just see it as a bunch of kids posting home videos then you're missing out. Maybe you should try searching for something that you're interested in rather than just clicking on the crap they promo on the homepage.
Daniel Reichenbach
05-28-2007, 09:14 PM
I think Ralph is right. Youtube IS a very interesting phenomenon. And I also agree that its quality needs to be increased dramatically. Why not have 720x420 high-quality vids? Why no 720p? Google has plenty of cash and plenty of servers to boost youtube's horrendous image quality.
I mean, what's the point of watching high school girls do "booty shaking" vids if aint in HD?? :)
You Tube is allways good as an archive to search about any stile and theme of films possible. Good for moodboards ASO. And yes, it is a phenomenon, an exact fingerprint of the narcissism and over-estimation produced by our century. So, indeed very interesting ;-)
Poi Boy
05-28-2007, 09:19 PM
The quality ratio is always going to be low but the same holds true for network television. What I find really interesting about u tube is that the majority of the user base is from somewhere other than the US. It is a window to the world...hopefully we'll eventually get more bandwidth and less compression on the net.
Aloha
-A
Shawn Nelson
05-28-2007, 09:52 PM
...an exact fingerprint of the narcissism and over-estimation produced by our century. So, indeed very interesting ;-)
Bingo! It seems to me to mostly be a big ego daisy chain. Sheesh, all the self-important blog-meisters from every geo-political corner all thinking their overturning the media and 'getting the word out'.
Sam Druckerman
05-28-2007, 10:59 PM
You Tube?
I found clips of the amazing Django Rienhardt (gypsy jazz guitar player) who passed away in the 1950's on you tube, that's pretty cool my book.
I think there are some real gems to be found amongst all that crap they've got.
But you do have to search to find them.
Priyesh P.
05-28-2007, 11:08 PM
I love Youtube since I can find episodes, music videos and litttle bits and pieces there I otherwise could never could get grip of. Itīs very bad image quality, but I think itīs only a matter of time until that changes.
TimothyD
05-29-2007, 05:35 AM
On the image quality front, I believe they are using an older version of Flash video for this. I am thinking it is because it would cost too much in licensing if they used the On2VP6 codec.
I think what needs to happen in terms of quality is that they come up with a better (unlicensed) codec, maybe DNxHD and have people encode for that before posting so there is no double concatonation going on. That is almost certainly the other part of the problem aside from the codec itself.
I think that people are right in predicting that this is the future of broadcasting (really multicasting). The thing is, the media dinosuars are unlikely to ever realize that, and so they are very slow to catch on to video over the web.
As for resolution, I think that 480 by 270 would be a nice sweet spot in terms of a compromise between bandwidth and image quality.
Tim
J. Bernard Vallon
05-29-2007, 06:03 AM
And dont forget what happened to the former virginia senator with his 'makaka' comment. Politicians have for years been going to different parts of the country giving totally different speeches depending on who was listening. Even saying contradictory statements. Youtube helps hold them accountable.
Power to the people!
Júlio Taubkin
05-29-2007, 06:06 AM
A friend of mine made a documentary no budget style and it found it's audience in youtube. more than 50.000 views. That's what I call efficient distribution. Not a single dollar spent.
Youtube is awesome, period.
Craig Schober
05-29-2007, 06:58 AM
i think the problem with youtube now is that this youtube discussion is much more interesting than youtube itself. go on youtube and all i see and all i am pointed to are videos for general audiences made by general audiences. treasure trove of junk. it's much more fun to speculate how youtube will evolve than to access youtube today.
Noah Kadner
05-29-2007, 07:08 AM
What I personally about youtube is that you can find almost *anything* on there in just a decent enough quality to see what's going on. Just a few of the things that recently made me smile:
Vader Sessions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A0rwG39Jzk
Flintstones Cigarette Ad
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NAExoSozc2c
-Noah