256 GB SSD drive

[Damien Molineaux]

The future is here, just announced from PQI, a 256 GB SSD drive, with transfer rates up to 60MB/sec, see here :
http://www.pqi.com.tw/news_1.asp?ID=1617

Imagine a couple of those in a Red Ram Drive !!!

Other announcements : a 1.8" 32GB drive and a 32GB Express card

How to we choose a Red Flash module now ?!

Cheers,
Damien

[JD Holloway]

F$#k'n fantastic.

Perfect solution to 2.5 inch sized ssd drives.
Yes larger than a CF or 1.8"
But who cares!

256 GIG!!!!!

No RAID needed here!

[Obin Olson]

OMG this makes me sleep better at night! I am scared to DEATH of hard disks failing. I have seen em do it far more then they should at the studio in our RAID dataserver..


now what is that price going to be?

[Darwin]

I still favor CF cards, cause they are cheap and you can find them almost any where in a pinch.

[JD Holloway]

2.5 would/could replace RED Drives.

Or heck, as the price comes down, as a solution for short term reliable RAID project storage before archiving.

CF could still be an option for shooting.

[Darwin]

JD, Absolutely fantastic idea for replacement of the raid. I was referring to Express vs. CF card thing.

[Paul Hazlett]

the cost on that sucker is going to be ridiculous for the near future.
its going to be a while before it gets even close to a reasonable per
gig value.

[Michael Hastings]

Solid state drives have been around for years, they just keep getting bigger and cheaper.

How is this different from Red Ram or the Solid State drives from Ikegami, Hitachi, etc.


The future is here, just announced from PQI, a 256 GB SSD drive, with transfer rates up to 60MB/sec, see here :
http://www.pqi.com.tw/news_1.asp?ID=1617

Imagine a couple of those in a Red Ram Drive !!!

Other announcements : a 1.8" 32GB drive and a 32GB Express card

How to we choose a Red Flash module now ?!

Cheers,
Damien

[Jay A. Kelley]

Does RED support the SSD that this website is referring too?
Jay

[JD Holloway]

How is this different from Red Ram or the Solid State drives from Ikegami, Hitachi, etc.

Faster, cheaper, bigger, no?

[Antoine Fabi]

Do you know the price ?

[Paul Leeming]

This tech will come down in price eventually but right now nearly ALL the traditional memory makers are throwing out press releases about new SSDs, each more impressive and larger in capacity than the last. Press releases are great, but so far almost NONE of these drives are available to purchase, and the few that are, are hideously expensive relative to their capacity. And I'm hardly in a backwater as far as getting technology goes; Akihabara (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihabara) is a half hour subway ride away.... :)

256GB of SATA SSD? Of course I'm interested. But 256GB of SATA SSD at a reasonable price? See you some time in 2008, probably the latter half....

[Steve Freebairn]

If it works, is cost effective, and part of the future (which it looks to be) I'm sure the Red team will incorporate it either now or sometime in the near future. They are quite progressive.

[PaulClements]

If they expect them to be in 30% of PC's in 2008 then I doubt they'll be too expensive.

[Jeff Kilgroe]

There's a huge potential market for that 256GB SSD. That's right in line with the current largest 2.5" hard drives and it's a lot faster, more rugged and consumes less power. By the end of next year, I will be shocked if most new notebook computers are not shipping with solid state storage instead of magnetic hard drives. HDDs will be limited to bargain applications mostly. Perhaps HDDs will remain in the notebook computer market for a while for larger capacities. However, SSDs will increase in capacity at exponential rates as prices drop and people start buying in quantity.

I'm liking their 226X CF card at 16GB too.

[Chris Kenny]

Anyone know if large SSD drives get hot? Would you need active cooling if you had a lot of them packed into a small space?

If not... well, if you can make a 256 GB 2.5" SSD, you can almost certainly make a 1 TB 3.5" SSD. There's something incredibly appealing, in a tingly futuristic sort of way, about the idea of a rack full of those serving up hundreds of megabytes a second... silently.

(Of course, it'll probably be a few years before such a thing is available at a sane price.)

[Adam Jeal]

If Apple decide to stick these babies in the next-gen i-pods it could drive down the price reasonably soon (here's hoping!).

adam

[Craig Schober]

the memory price for a 256gb ssd is over $2000 alone. now add the interface, the markup and the demand/hype that increases the price. we will be lucky to get these for anything under $3000 in 2008. not outrageous but i choose a red drive for now.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/storage/display/20070530081801.html

[Eddie]

Demand will not increase the price, it will vitalize competition and add benefits of mass production. it´s not a p2 card...:w00t:

[Petr Dvorak]

Solid state drives have been around for years, they just keep getting bigger and cheaper.
...

yea especialy in Stealth F-22 fighters and several military vehihles :shifty:

[Craig Schober]

Demand will not increase the price, it will vitalize competition and add benefits of mass production. it´s not a p2 card...:w00t:

yes but not enough supply will increase price. of course the price will come down but i'm only looking at 2008 right now and still see red drive as the best deal by far. p2 is an open standard that's been around for years but where's all the competition there? sometimes the market doesn't play out like it should or at least not as fast as it should.

[Jeff Kilgroe]

P2 is about as "open" as a door on a submarine at sea. Panasonic likes to market it like it's their gift to the digital video and ENG industries... In reality, it's very difficult for third parties to actually produce and sell P2 cards any cheaper than Panasonic due to the ROM mark licensing structure and sales royalties. There are a couple companies starting to try it out, but so far their announced prices aren't any better than buying genuine Panny produce from a discount vendor. I looked into P2 manufacturing a couple times last year and found that many manufacturers that I approached were already aware of P2 and ready to produce, just as soon as someone wanted to invest in the production or as soon as they felt it would be profitable. It just didn't make any sense financially for me to have someone make P2 cards with my label on them so I could sell them for the same price that Panasonic does. I could have cut a deal with very large production orders (10 to 20 K units per order), but then by the time I sold them, even if it only took a few months, my luck is that prices would drop and the debt service on the money I would've borrowed would have destroyed any of my profits.

Anyway... SSDs are definitely the future for portable devices (iPods, notebook computers, etc..). I agree that it may take some time for prices to really drop and the SSDs to catch on. However, it only takes one manufacturer with enough financial muscle to change this overnight. If Apple were to suddenly take open bids for 3 million units of 1.8" 32GB SSDs for use in iPods, there would instantly be a true competitive market and affordable pricing -- like almost overnight. Creative did this with their Zen MP3 player a couple years back. They were the first to use the 4GB CF micro-drive in mass quantity. Going rate for that CF MD was about $650-$750 from a discount vendor. The Creative player was $299. I'm one of the many people who bought a few of these players just to crack them open and take out the CF card. Within a couple months, 4GB MD CFs were everywhere for $180.

If the demand is there, the supply will scale to meet it, provided the demand is large enough to get manufacturers to alter their current production lines, which are often full.

[Petr Dvorak]

some threads bout SSD from past

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=760
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2038