On set down load time question

[Nir Shelter]

Got a question that has been on my mind for a while and I haven't seen ay posts that quite tackle it, about read/write speeds of future media.

When the bigger bandwidths Redcodes come out how long will it take to down load say 50GB?
If Red drive (in its currant design) we will be limited to max FW800 at sustained read 74MB/s, FW800 CF reader at 40MB/s. Will Red have additional I/O ports for faster read/write times on future media rams or drives, sata for instance? Doubling up on existing ports per drive or ram?

What is the game plan with handling the download and backup time on set for the near future 3K RC48, 5K RC80 and 6k RC100?



P.S.
It takes me on average 25 min to download approx 30GB from a Red drive with all checks involved on set.

This is my setup: a 15" MBP I use 1XFW800 port connected to a 3 way FW800 hub with one port for clients HDD (clients HDD could also be connected to the FW400 port if that's all they have), one port for Red media CF/drive and possibly the third port to an additional HDD if required. Express34 to Sata adapter for my field raid, 1XUSB port for a mouse and on occasion if the FW800 port on the Red drive doesn't work I switch to a powered Red drive to FW400. Not to mention I have 3 external HDD with FW400 and USB only as back up in case my raid or the clients HDD fails on set.

[Alex Carr]

Use an e-sata reader and those times will drop to 7 minutes for 30GB, depending on the checks you run.

[Chris Parker]

alex, what esata reader would you recommend? link?

also, don't forget about usb 3 and FW3200 that are coming probably even before the new redcodes are out.....that will cancel out the higher bandwidth of the new redcodes. i would suspect that the actual minutes to download a certain amount of 'footage' or 'shot footage' will stay the same.....

[Nir Shelter]

Esata reader for CFs perhaps but for drives still have the FW800 74MB/s limitation. What about when we record RC100 drives and or ram will fill up that much faster. We need faster read media for good on set work flow, any news about changes to read write speeds or to that matter new I/O ports on future Redrams or drives?

Edit:
Will USB 3 and FW3200 be implemented on Redrams or drives at any point?
Not to mention that the new MBP don't have these on them so this may mean getting a PC laptop for field work.

[Chris Parker]

i have a feeling that everything (redcode higher bitrates, USB3, FW3200, new connections on the RED media, etc.) will all happen around the same time, meaning a full overhaul of hardware to support these new higher bitrates properly....

[Nir Shelter]

I hope we will get fair warning so we can gear up accordingly over time rather than spend a whole lot at once.
It doesn't look like Apple are going to bring out a new gen of MBP with USB3 and FW3200 anytime soon. So we will have to either purchase new Mac pros with the new ports installed or get new PCI boards with USB3 and FW3200 for our at the time old Mac pros.

Still doesn't solve the remote location portable data wrangle situation much. Would really like to get some info about the potential changes and their time frame.

[Chris Parker]

i think FW3200 is planned to work with existing FW800 ports and cables.....