SHAKE and SLOW MOTION

[Aaron Bernakevitch]

Hey Gang (Running Shake 4 - 2k 24p red QuickTime media)

Been on this forum for quite awhile, always seemed to find the answers I need but this on is a little more specific.

I am trying to do some tests to see how far I can push the 2k-120FPS files for further slow motion. Trying to get it closer to 200 FPS. There is a great article on http://library.creativecow.net/articles/mench_michael/slow_motion/video-tutorial.php about retiming in shake and the advantages of the interpolation to FCP's retimer.

I am wondering if shake can support 2K files. I have tried out putting to shake and all I get is a black image. I have done this procedure before with p2 footage but my shake knowledge is somewhat limited.

Is there an extra step involved? Am I missing something? I am pretty keen to see how far I can digitally push the slow motion effect.

Or if anyone knows of a better process to push 24p footage


Aaron

"Lets get the best images possible"

[Corrado Silveri]

What do you mean for "Red Quicktime Media"?
In my experience, Shake work very well. And yes, 2K it's accepted.

Give a try to the The Foundry/Furnace F_Kronos plug for Shake...

http://www.thefoundry.co.uk/pkg_plugins.aspx?ui=44213E51-76C0-4926-9D5D-3A8059449900

Just my two cents.

[Alexis Hanawalt]

I highly recommend Twixtor from RE:Vision Effects - I once took a shot of a person coughing, about 3 seconds, and stretched it to 1 minute - and it looked smooth all the way through...

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Shake handles 2K files just fine. The less compressed format you can feed it, the better. And yes, the Foundry's Furnace plug-ins are excellent. Kronos typically produces superior results to Shake's own optical flow retiming, which is a bit dated compared to what's on the market now. Their de-blurring tool is useful too for this.

When you say red quicktime media, are you referring to the quicktime proxy files? I would recommend not using them. Much better to transcode the R3D files into DPX or tiff sequences or ProRes, uncompressed, etc..

[Snow R. Shai]

Hi
You can also use Apple Motion 3 to time stretch, using Optical Flow technology from Shake.

[Uli Plank]

IMHO Twixtor is the best.

[Charles Angus]

Shake+Quicktime=trouble, in my opinion. It is designed to work with, and is happiest with, image sequences.