using macbook pro for monitor

[Craig Schober]

apple just updated their macbook pro line with faster processors, faster graphics processor, led backlighting and an option for native 1920x1200 17" pixel display. i know we'll be able to dump and edit redcode in the field but does anyone have a clever suggestion for using the macbook pro as a realtime monitor? not the best display but it would be nice to use macbook pro as a monitor since some of us will have it with us anyway.

[Blair S. Paulsen]

I am so bummed that the new MacBook Pro does not include an eSATA port! I would sure love to have the connection to my RedDrive be on a different (and rather fast) bus than the drive I am writing to.

Does this mean the fastest field dubs will be FW800 port out of the RedDrive into the MB Pro and write out via FW400 to the external drive? I have heard that there are eSATA adapters that fit in the Express 34 card slot so maybe that is the hookup. I was hoping to keep that slot available. I also figured an eSATA tap right to the motherboard would be faster, of course that's idle speculation at this point.

So eSATA out of the RedDrive, via an Express 34 adapter through the MB Pro to a FW800 drive. Heck, we could do that with the current models.

[Chris Forbes]

Wigby the new AJA IO HD will make your macbook a great display. Probably cheaper to get an actual HD display.

[Alexis Hanawalt]

I am so bummed that the new MacBook Pro does not include an eSATA port!

Here's your solution:
http://www.expresscard.org/web/site/cons_wtb.jsp

[SF Geek]

So there is a PCMCIA to Express 34 adapter out there for Mac Book pro?

[Craig Schober]

Wigby the new AJA IO HD will make your macbook a great display. Probably cheaper to get an actual HD display.

that's true but i guess i was gunning for something more portable and less reliant on ac power. and the red hdmi is limited to 720p, right? i won't need all those pixels on a 17" lcd if all i'll see is 720 native.

maybe sdi out to a kona capture/display card in the express 34 form factor?

you're probably right. i should just settle for a dedicated hd display for now.

[Sanjin Jukic]

SATA On-the-Go:
The Tempo SATA Express 34 controller has two external, 3Gb/s, SATA II ports, and plugs directly into a MacBook Pro (15" or 17") or Windows notebooks with an ExpressCard/54 or ExpressCard/34 slot.


http://www.sonnettech.com/product/images/Tsataexpress34.jpg

LINK>>
http://www.sonnettech.com/product/tempo_sata_express34.html

[Chris Forbes]

"a kona capture/display card in the express 34 form factor?"


Would someone please make one of those. That would rock.

[Thom Steinhoff]

Wigby the new AJA IO HD will make your macbook a great display. Probably cheaper to get an actual HD display.

I really don't know how this would be possible as most laptops don't have a "monitor in" they only have an out. How will the AJA IO or anything else connect to it?

[Blair S. Paulsen]

So one of the eSATA2 ports on the Express 34 expansion card intakes the data off the RedDrive and the other one feeds it back out to an external eSATA2 RAID...

Will it matter that both the read and write are happening over the same bus?

Anybody got math on how long it would take to dump 300GB? I am assuming that the catch device is a eSATA2 port multiplied RAID with 4 drives.

[Craig Schober]

I really don't know how this would be possible as most laptops don't have a "monitor in" they only have an out. How will the AJA IO or anything else connect to it?

the macbook pro and any mac for that matter uses firewire 800 with the aja io to stream data in and out so that is the monitor in. from red you could use the sdi i/o or hdmi i/o. problem is that it's hardly portable.

[Chris Forbes]

I really don't know how this would be possible as most laptops don't have a "monitor in" they only have an out. How will the AJA IO or anything else connect to it?

http://www.aja.com/html/products_Io.html


The AJA IO HD is a standalone hardware based encoder that takes HDSDI in and transcoders it into PRORES422 and spits it out FW800 so it will go into any computer that has Final Cut and a Firewire 800 port.

But it costs almost 4000.00 so for just monitoring it is a bit of an overkill.

[Damien Molineaux]

So one of the eSATA2 ports on the Express 34 expansion card intakes the data off the RedDrive and the other one feeds it back out to an external eSATA2 RAID...

Will it matter that both the read and write are happening over the same bus?

Anybody got math on how long it would take to dump 300GB? I am assuming that the catch device is a eSATA2 port multiplied RAID with 4 drives.

If I'm not mistaken, Red Drives have a proprietary SATA connection used to connect it to the camera and to power it. Apparently you could have a cable made to go out of this port into a standard SATA connector, biut then you still have to power the drive, which is also possible with another cable via USB. However, I would think FW800 is faster than the drive speed anyhow, so connecting a Red Drive via SATA (or eSATA) won't make the transfer faster anyhow. The drive speed is the limiting factor.

I'll be dubbing my Red Drives going in the laptop via FW800 and back out to two eSATA drives in mirror mode using the two eSATA ports on the ExpressCard.

Cheers,
Damien

[Chris Forbes]

So one of the eSATA2 ports on the Express 34 expansion card intakes the data off the RedDrive and the other one feeds it back out to an external eSATA2 RAID...

Will it matter that both the read and write are happening over the same bus?

Anybody got math on how long it would take to dump 300GB? I am assuming that the catch device is a eSATA2 port multiplied RAID with 4 drives.

The bottle neck is not the catch device it is the REDDRIVE. It connects by FW800. But it is not the FW800 bus speed it is the drives in the REDDRIVE that are the slowest part of the chain.

[Cail Young]

So there is a PCMCIA to Express 34 adapter out there for Mac Book pro?

Macbook Pros have ExpressCard slots, not PCMCIA.

[Mark L. Pederson]

However, I would think FW800 is faster than the drive speed anyhow, so connecting a Red Drive via SATA (or eSATA) won't make the transfer faster anyhow. The drive speed is the limiting factor.

That is my understanding


I'll be dubbing my Red Drives going in the laptop via FW800 and back out to two eSATA drives in mirror mode using the two eSATA ports on the ExpressCard.

Cheers,
Damien

This is the simple, smart solution - (**until the Leopard release - I'd suggest using SOFT RAID - http://www.softraid.com/ Mac isn't 100% in Raid 1 without it) -