Show Time (Betatesting the new German Primes at f1.7) [Archive]

Cüneyt Kaya

03-15-2009, 02:51 PM

Hi Guys i was one of the lucky guys who had the chance to test these lenses.
Here are some pics of a burlesque show we shot this friday.

This is Miss Julietta la Doll and her lovely friends.
http://www.myspace.com/missjulietta

this test was more about the feeling the lenses can give me rather than to judge the technical side...and i am really happy with them.

anybody who doesnt love half naked women should leave the thread
right now.

Shot with build 16, 4k 2:1, rc 28 at f1.7, available light,tungsten,
maximum asa 2000, to redrive, denoised.

Lens:
25mm
F1.7--wide open

there is a thread where you can judge the technical side of the lens

http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=27624

http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/thumbs/a7kd-3.jpg (http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/a7kd-3-jpg.html)

and for the don juans out there

http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/thumbs/a7kd-2.jpg (http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/a7kd-2-jpg.html)

last but not least

http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/thumbs/a7kd-4.jpg (http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/a7kd-4-jpg.html)

LEON

03-15-2009, 04:16 PM

What focal lenght did you use, and what denoiser ?

Jean Déraps

03-15-2009, 05:16 PM

These look nice..but it's hard to discern the real quality of these lenses with this type of shot...

laguun

03-15-2009, 05:21 PM

These look nice..but it's hard to discern the real quality of these lenses with this type of shot...

yeah, however shooting this was big fun (was there as well).

i am not sure what lenses of the set kaya used. I would estimate: the 25mm?
also, and that will be fun, the other cam used cookes, so there will be the comparision shortly - but not basing on this footage alone :)

kaya, am i allowed to upload some of the cooke footage from that night?

Edgar Pitts

03-15-2009, 05:28 PM

I am getting a server redirect to an advertising page when I try to view the images.

albert rudnicki

03-15-2009, 05:35 PM

Glad to see some stuff, but have to admit that you have the balls:gun: to start the show with 2000 asa de-noised, tungsten wide open @ 1.7 is that (f1.7)

Love to see some more

edit:
ooops did not see the other post.

laguun

03-15-2009, 05:42 PM

Matt Uhry

03-15-2009, 05:49 PM

Nice Girls, yes, but that tells me squat about the lenses. You should have called your post "No Show Time"

Is this going to become a Red style hype and tease ? I'm actually really interested to see what you've made.

Lens tests are not nearly as sexy, but that's how big kids pick their glass.

Side by side with Ultraprimes, in a setup that has some out of focus stuff in the background and foreground, a person, a center chart and a corner chart would be a reasonable start to look at most focal lengths from 18-100.

AND WELCOME BACK.

Matt Uhry
www.mattuhry.com

albert rudnicki

03-15-2009, 05:54 PM

Matt, I guess time will tell.
I do have a good feeling.

Andrea Scaglione

03-15-2009, 05:58 PM

yeah, however shooting this was big fun (was there as well).

i am not sure what lenses of the set kaya used. I would estimate: the 25mm?
also, and that will be fun, the other cam used cookes, so there will be the comparision shortly - but not basing on this footage alone :)

kaya, am i allowed to upload some of the cooke footage from that night?

Wellcomeback Laguun.

Andrea

Cüneyt Kaya

03-15-2009, 06:06 PM

What focal lenght did you use, and what denoiser ?

the shots you see were with a 25mm.

laguun

03-15-2009, 06:06 PM

Nice Girls, yes, but that tells me squat about the lenses. You should have called your post "No Show Time"

Is this going to become a Red style hype and tease ? I'm actually really interested to see what you've made.

Lens tests are not nearly as sexy, but that's how big kids pick their glass.

Matt Uhry
www.mattuhry.com
Hey Matt,

these shots arent from us :)
In our tests i showed dof/bokeh/focus/col/coi/ca/la etc -
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=27624

these shots are from kaya, i only was present at the party, rather for the ladies than for the lenses tbh :)

Cüneyt Kaya

03-15-2009, 06:07 PM

kaya, am i allowed to upload some of the cooke footage from that night?

of course

laguun

03-15-2009, 06:07 PM

of course

Morning kaya :)

Matt Uhry

03-15-2009, 06:09 PM

Hey Matt,

these shots arent from us :)
In our tests i showed dof/bokeh/focus/col/coi/ca/la etc -
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=27624

these shots are from kaya, i only was present at the party, rather for the ladies than for the lenses tbh :)

Fair enough -

Matt Uhry
www.mattuhry.com

Cüneyt Kaya

03-15-2009, 06:10 PM

Cüneyt Kaya

03-15-2009, 06:11 PM

Hey Matt, the pictures are from my private fun...
i just wanted to use them to see if i can catch the feeling i was for...and i am happy

laguun

03-15-2009, 06:12 PM

i love to push my red to the limits and see if i can get away with it.

*cough* *cough*

kaya, post in MY thread, i think my shots are better for the judgement of the lenses and yours is better for the judgement of the ladies :)

Ryan E. Walters

03-15-2009, 07:20 PM

What denoiser was used on the footage?

I'm impressed with the results you got at an ISO of 2000.

andrewjwhittaker

03-15-2009, 07:34 PM

I am assuming you did not just denoise the still images, in which case what did you use to denoise the footage?

The stills look very nice, an interesting fragility to them.

Cüneyt Kaya

03-15-2009, 07:38 PM

I am assuming you did not just denoise the still images, in which case what did you use to denoise the footage?

The stills look very nice, an interesting fragility to them.

you are right...the footage is denoised..not only the stills
done in 20 seconds

Cüneyt Kaya

03-15-2009, 07:39 PM

I am getting a server redirect to an advertising page when I try to view the images.

hi edgar, maybe some settings in the browser or the browser itself.

Paul Hazlett

03-15-2009, 07:56 PM

hi edgar, maybe some settings in the browser or the browser itself.

i am also getting the redirect to this address

http://www.chinaontv.com/index.php/sex_museum/

laguun

03-15-2009, 08:09 PM

i am also getting the redirect to this address

http://www.chinaontv.com/index.php/sex_museum/

lol

try these
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/a7kd-3-jpg.html
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/a7kd-2-jpg.html
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/a7kd-4-jpg.html

i would check my browsers settings :)

andrewjwhittaker

03-15-2009, 08:23 PM

you are right...the footage is denoised..not only the stills
done in 20 seconds

Any specifics you would care to share with the software used?

Also are there any clips online of the footage in motion?

Cüneyt Kaya

03-16-2009, 02:32 AM

Any specifics you would care to share with the software used?

Also are there any clips online of the footage in motion?

right now we are editing...
i will post end of the week something for you

bjoern knechtel

03-16-2009, 08:57 AM

hey kaya,

i am really impressed. i remember the spotlight on the ladies was also monochrome and red and know i see skintones.

björn

andrewjwhittaker

03-16-2009, 11:14 AM

right now we are editing...
i will post end of the week something for you

Thanks Kaya, appreciate it.

What denoise software did you use, or do you for some reason prefer to not to disclose that information?

Blair S. Paulsen

03-16-2009, 11:22 AM

Is it the Super Double Secret Denoiser?

James T Mather

03-16-2009, 11:34 AM

It must be - the question has been asked about five times.

What. denoiser. did. you. guys. use?

Cüneyt Kaya

03-16-2009, 04:38 PM

this thread turns into a denoise thread...hehe.

should i start an own thread about denoising techniques.

Martin Ludwig

03-17-2009, 01:03 AM

Fredrik Callinggard

03-17-2009, 01:36 AM

Well in a thread were it's about NEW AMAZING lenses I do see a reason to start discussing if de-noise software has been used to demonstrate the pictures.

As the matter of fact the pics should be as neutral and without as little CC as possible. Not saying we should look at RAW files, but there's a difference between me having a proper grade in a Lustre or a Baselight, with an experienced grader and a "fool" behind the wheels of for example Color.

Edit: Ignore the last bit, just looked back a little on this thread and realized I jumped the gun a little early. My apologies

Liam Hall

03-17-2009, 01:41 AM

These lenses could be good for a retro look; they look a little like a bolex lens, a tad soft and lacking contrast.

Marc Berger

03-17-2009, 01:42 AM

andrewjwhittaker

03-17-2009, 01:44 AM

It´s going funny, no even it´s more distressing and frustrating. This forum trends in a direction where it shouldn´t trend to - image cultivation !
In the beginning it was a wonderful help source... what a shame...

How is sharing information about how an image was captured not a help source? Especially an interesting image that does not use standard practices for exposure.

By definition this thread is a help source for those wishing to push the prescribed boundaries of the Red One camera.

Also, Kaya, if you have any more images for us to cultivate, that would be nice to see in the mean time before any footage is available. Thanks.

Cüneyt Kaya

03-17-2009, 03:20 AM

It´s going funny, no even it´s more distressing and frustrating. This forum trends in a direction where it shouldn´t trend to - image cultivation !
In the beginning it was a wonderful help source... what a shame...

Hi Martin,
actually here on reduser arent only rental guys.
Here are some shooters and artists who use the camera to capture pictures, cultivate them and tell a story.

And a real world shooting under hard circumtances and then the discussion about how to achieve that look is something that is very important for a lot of people.

BTW. All people asked for the denoise did get their answer.

----martin you are invited to come to berlin and do all your tests you wish

Cüneyt Kaya

03-17-2009, 03:43 AM

Kaya,
great stuff!
...I actually wanted to start a denoising thread yesterday, but then I thought I only have questions about it...a denoising thread should be started by somebody with solutions, so please start one!
Thanks!
Herzliche Grüsse,
Marc

Hi Marc my friend,
i am in France in April...you have to visit me in Paris.
I drop you an email when i am there

laguun

03-17-2009, 08:58 PM

It´s going funny, no even it´s more distressing and frustrating. This forum trends in a direction where it shouldn´t trend to - image cultivation !
In the beginning it was a wonderful help source... what a shame...

hey martin,

if you have problems understanding this forum or are interested in informations about the upcoming prime lenses, just give us a call!

internet forums are no place for precise information.
precise images, however, can be judegd over the internet.

Martin Ludwig

03-19-2009, 12:28 PM

Jan, all I have to know - I know. Maybe more than expected. Don´t worry about my ability to understand this forum.

But you are complete right - no place for precise information...

hey martin,

if you have problems understanding this forum or are interested in informations about the upcoming prime lenses, just give us a call!

internet forums are no place for precise information.
precise images, however, can be judegd over the internet.