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redcanary
03-23-2009, 01:29 PM
Hi,
I am a DoP, not an editor, so forgive the potentially dumb questions!
I have been cutting a RED Show-reel for myself, mostly out of curiosity so I can play with the Premiere CS4 work-flow... I have a couple of issues that maybe the more experienced can help me with...

Firstly, when I place an R3D file on the time-line, the image is very dark, flat and not very colourful... I have to do a basic grade on each shot as I go, just to see some decent detail. I have to push the brightness and contrast a long way, but the image looks ok once I do that. In RED Cine it looks fine straight away. Maybe its a colour space setting or something.... any suggestions welcome.

Also I would like to know if the grading I am doing within Premiere is actually accessing and using the the RAW data. I was skeptical at first, but seeing how far I can actually push the perameters, maybe it does. Any thoughts.

PS if anyone is actually interested, I stuck my RED Reel on my website www.andymcleod.com ... follow links to "show-reel"; the RED Reel is the 3rd clip down the page. (Some of the material was shot in the Arctic in minus 28ºC... I am pleased to report the RED One behaved itself admirably!).

Many thanks all....

Manuel López Pérez
03-23-2009, 05:01 PM
Hello Andy. Are you right?
Yes, Premiere Pro is only Rec709, and also is possible the color grading with Premiere built-in effects and color grading plugins (Color finesse).

Manuel
Los Realejos
Tenerife

Frank Mirbach
03-24-2009, 07:02 AM
We´re currently running the test version of CS4 and it works so far. But we also have the impression we´re looking directly at RAW instead of any color space. I heard PP is working in YUV space, but all images are flat, dark and desaturated. In After Effects, you can set the color space, but it seems in PP that isn´t possible.

Can anyone help here ?

Thanks,

Frank

Uli Plank
03-24-2009, 12:24 PM
Only Adobe…

Frank Mirbach
03-24-2009, 12:54 PM
Only Adobe…
Yep. That´s what one might think. We´ve been trying all day. Seems the "support" guys have no idea :unhappy:

Frank

Troy Smith
03-24-2009, 11:45 PM
If u load the same clip in redcine as prem, set redcine to camrgb and rec709, pictures should match, meaning prem is using rec709.

To get afx looking the same, u need to interpret footage and chose preserve rgb, then afx will match prem.