"craigslist Warning" I Was Shot, Tied-up, Beaten-up & Robbed!!!

[KETCH ROSSi]

Hi there,

Tis post is to advise everybody to be extremely carefull wen purchasing/selling items on Graigslist.

Unfortunatelly after many times using craigslist I was a victim of a home invasion.

I obviously know now not to trust anyone.. ever.

But also i fill like a complete Idiot, becaouse I let this guy in to my house, as I did many times before( not the same guy), but this time was the one that I will remember.

I was ordered at Gun point to get on the floor, insted I attaked the gunman tryng desperatelly to take the gun away fom Him, but after a very short fight as He pushed back hard my injured left knee let go and I felt on the floor and He shot me.

He then beaten me up and tied me up then beaten me up some more for unfo, then dragged me in to the closet and robbed me.

fortunatelly I,m here to right about it and fill more of an idiot becouse nott only I let the guy in to my house but I try to get the gun away knoing the my left knee is totally F...Up!

Among many items totally over $70,000.00 He toked:

Canon 1D mark 2n, Ef 15mm fisheye, Sigma 12-24mm, Ef 35mm 1.4L, Ef 50mm 1.2L, Emp 65mm macro, Ef 85mm 1.2L II, Ef 135mm 2.8L, Ef 200mm 2.0L II, Ef 400mm 2.8L, G3 lansebaby set up, 17" Macbook G4.

So this are some of the items easy to sale so be alert if buyng, do not do so with out prove of purchase, and please let be omly me the Idiot to pay the price and do not absolutelly let any one in your home and be carefull wen in public places as I was told that they also take guns there not to pay for the items.

KETCH ROSSI

[Dominique Grenier]

Dude...! I feel very sorry for you! My parents once got robbed and they stoled all my mother's family jewelry that had great sentimental value for her... fortunatly, nobody were there, so no one got hurt!

Hopefully you were insured! It won't help for what you felt, but at least you won't go broke!

[KETCH ROSSi]

Thanks Dominique,

yes I do have homeowner insurance, will see.

KETCH ROSSI

[Mark B.]

Craig's List is fine (though I personally don't like the layout of the site), just don't invite people into your home when you're selling something. Meet up at a mutually convenient location away from home, like at a library or something. Also, if you carry a gun it will help compensate for any knee problems you might have.

[Jeremy Hughes]

I feel for you. I'm suprised he didn't take anything more.

Are you allright? You didn't have massive blood loss did you?

I guess you should have just went with eBay.

P.S, I thought you were kidding when I read the title.

[KETCH ROSSi]

Yes next time, and not alone and armed, aldo this I'm sure was one of no so many cases, in my house no more!

And yes Craigslist is okay, I used for years, and the CEO in San Francisco was very prompt in returning the phone call of the Detective in charge of the case.

The blood loss was not significant in off to cause further problems, onse He left I was able to croll to one of the phones in the house, help arrived very fast, the problem is that the bullet is still in me, they say is more dangerous to try and taked out then to leave it in.

But thanks for asking I'm okay,
And He did toke quite a bid, over $70,000.00 value of items I just posted some of the lenses to aware any buyers just in case one of the Redusers was to shop for one of this items, never know.

KETCH ROSSI

[Jason Francois]

Very sorry to hear about that.

Thankfully, you're still alive to tell the story.

[KETCH ROSSi]

Yes, I'm.

[Steven M. Bailey]

The last time I was robbed was 10 years ago. I had given a stranger a ride near my house a few days before. He saw that I had kept stuff in my truck and came back to rob me. My little Brother (now a police officer) was fourteen and saw my dome light on in my truck at 3am. He went out to make sure the door was shut and met the guy face to face. My brother came into the house looking for the shotgun.

Fortunately for the thief we had shot some coyote's that were in with our live stock the day before, and the shotgun was no longer behind the front door. Otherwise I would have been cleaning cream-of-intruder of the inside of my truck. when he didn't find the gun my brother started screaming. Startled awake I chased the intruder for 1/4 mile in my underwear. He had too much of a head start. The police dogs tracked him back to his drug lab. He was stealing stuff to pay for his supply's for making meth.

I know how it feels to loose your sense of of security, but you got shot on top of that. Don't let it change you too much. Bitterness and total mistrust is a double edged sword.

My prayers and sympathy's go out to you. Get well soon!!

[Bruce Allen]

That is terrible, Ketch! I am so glad you survived though! Hope you get better soon and that that they catch this guy.

You are such a nice guy, it really makes me sick to hear about this happening. Apart from just being shot, is your health otherwise doing okay? I'm sure the whole Reduser community will be thinking about you and hoping you get better soon.

There aren't any special identifying marks / scratches / etc on your lenses or stuff, are there? I know it's a one in a million chance that anyone here will come across your lenses but let us know. Otherwise, we'll all be hoping the police manage to track this guy down.

So sorry that this had to happen in your life. And you are such a good, generous chap - offering to lend Red people stacks of lights, etc... when you decide to shoot something, just let us know what you need, okay? If there's anything I could do, I would do it.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

[Ace]

That's fucked up Ketch! Thankgod your okay..

You're a man with 9 lives.. you're my hero.

[Gavin Greenwalt]

Someone broke into my car a few weeks ago. Moved everything around. Decided it wasn't worth it and left everything. I'm not sure if I should be relieved or offended.

Sorry to hear about your run in. You could always follow my advice and just not have anything worth taking. Stops the criminals everytime! Far more effective than any self defense class :D

[Clayton Harper]

You are so fucking lucky. Please don't fight anymore guys holding guys on you. :pinch:

[Curran Giddens]

Thank God you're ok! At least it shouldn't be too hard to get you're money from the insurance company.

I've got things stolen from me before. But nothing that insurance will cover....

[Dominique Grenier]

Someone broke into my car a few weeks ago. Moved everything around. Decided it wasn't worth it and left everything. I'm not sure if I should be relieved or offended.

Hey, something exactly like this happened to me a few months ago! They even locked the doors afterward (I guess either my friend that was with me, or me, forgot to lock the door...) !

That's the good part of having an old car... hehe.

[Keith Alan Morris]

i had an old Honda CRX in NYC and it got broke into 8 times. 8! they always went thru the glove compartment, then just left. why were people so obsessed with my glove compartment? like i'm going to keep gold bars wrapped in drugs in brooklyn.

[Dominique Grenier]

i had an old Honda CRX in NYC and it got broke into 8 times. 8! they always went thru the glove compartment, then just left. why were people so obsessed with my glove compartment? like i'm going to keep gold bars wrapped in drugs in brooklyn.

That's exactly what they did, getting all the content all over the place... they're probably looking for wallets or something like that...

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Wow, Ketch... Sorry to learn of your misfortune, but I'm glad you're still with us!

As for theft, I've had plenty of things stolen over the years, it sucks. Never at gunpoint though -- I've been shot at, but that's a different story.

A friend of mine had someone attempt to carjack him last month. The guy had the gun pointed at him and demanded his keys and wallet. I don't know if it was the smartest thing to do, but my friend threw them onto the roof of the gas station instead of handing them over. The guy with the gun stood there for a second and then ran.

[Jeff Kilgroe]

That's exactly what they did, getting all the content all over the place... they're probably looking for wallets or something like that...

Wallets, bank receipts with account numbers, charge slips with card numbers, cash, anything. Even cold medicine to throw into the meth cooker.

[Dominique Grenier]

Wallets, bank receipts with account numbers, charge slips with card numbers, cash, anything. Even cold medicine to throw into the meth cooker.

Or maybe that was because they saw your RED Sticker and were hoping you were hiding your new baby in your glove compartment... one never know ! oh wait, RED hasn't been released yet... nevermind... hehe...

[KETCH ROSSi]

That is terrible, Ketch! I am so glad you survived though! Hope you get better soon and that that they catch this guy.

You are such a nice guy, it really makes me sick to hear about this happening. Apart from just being shot, is your health otherwise doing okay? I'm sure the whole Reduser community will be thinking about you and hoping you get better soon.

There aren't any special identifying marks / scratches / etc on your lenses or stuff, are there? I know it's a one in a million chance that anyone here will come across your lenses but let us know. Otherwise, we'll all be hoping the police manage to track this guy down.

So sorry that this had to happen in your life. And you are such a good, generous chap - offering to lend Red people stacks of lights, etc... when you decide to shoot something, just let us know what you need, okay? If there's anything I could do, I would do it.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

Hi Bruce,

thanks for your support and kind words.

And thanks to ll of you responding with support on this matter, it is refreshing and positively pushes me forward, I'm always very strong and positive kinde of person, so much has appened in my life and I managed to continue strong head on in pursuit of my dream, this time was a little different, lost of sense of security, finding out for the first time wath it means to be completely at the mersy of a criminal olding a gun to the back of your head after has you shot and tied up.

You see your life at end, no more love ones to see no more, no more second chance on finding a new love, no more time left on your clock to fulfill your dream.

It has not been easy at all this days, especially eving just moved to this area short a go and not eving any friends, the new house has taking a new ora of it's own, but as the original post started as a warning tool is now giving me the support of you Redusers and showing me how wonderfull this community is, and that people do care.

Unfortunatelly all my lenses and cameras were in perfect 10 condition not a single scratch on it, but the lens hoods of the 50mm 1.2L, 85mm 1.2L II, 135mm 2,8L, & 200mm 2.0L II were heand shaped as a petal hood so you will see markings from filing them down on those wich were have being circular other wise.

Again I appreciate all of you giving me your kind words, I'm doing just fine, and as the police continues the invastigation my insurance company works on refunding my lost property( at list I hope most of it), wath sucks is that as I had said in Vegas during NAB, I was tryng to organize a party in my house to serve as House warming party and a Show of gratitude foer the RED team and wath they are doing for as all, in theyr project and in this forum keeping as involved, so I was to put a thread to start collecting RSVP for the occasion, but now it will have to be post poned, but I wanted to do sao now more thyen before to also bring a new positive energy in to my new home that I almost finished all by my self so I care about it.

I find my self in a Writer/Director/Producer/Human being BLOCK, so I need to have this party so to shake this expirience off of me.

Thanks again Bruce and all of you.

KETCH ROSSI

[Eugene]

http://miami.craigslist.org/roo/
I was using Craigslist yesterday, looking for a condo to buy. The people that are real desperate to sell and have had their condo on the market for a long time are now puting them up for rent and or looking for roommates. I thought it was quite risky to rent out a spare bedroom to someone you met over the internet. But I have met lots of friends over the internet in the past. I guess I am lucky not to have met a bad apple. Hope you get better soon and that the police find the criminal.

[KETCH ROSSi]

Thanks Eugene,

I had use Craigslist many times before also in Miami and I started using wen after a bed accident I was left at home with a badly broken knee and not being able to work or move much at all, so I decided that my twoo bedroom was to uch for me to pay for and decided to rent out a room to a complete stranger and started posting on Craigs, many roomates later never a single problem, but this one time was quite different, a cruel lesson to be learned, and it was a very bed one and so I like others to be more carefull much more then me, as I wish this expirience on to no one also.

Ciao

KETCH ROSSI

[Graeme Nattress]

So sorry to hear this Ketch. I don't know what to say other than I'm shocked and I hope you recover quickly. I really enjoyed meating you at NAB and it makes me sick to hear such a terrible thing happening to you.

Graeme

[KETCH ROSSi]

Hi Graeme,

thanks, I also enjoy verymuch meeting you at NAB, it was very creasy those days at the RED boot but I enjoy the all experience of being there among you guys.

I'm doing much better as every day passes so do not concerne your self to much, I'm a strong willed Man, but all of your support is most welcome in my days, so thanks again Graeme.

Ciao

KETCH ROSSI

[Tom Lowe]

Wow. Shocking. What kind of gun did he shoot you with? .22? .38? 9mm? You're lucky to be alive.

Also, never underestimate the stupidity of the criminal mind. I would not be surprised if this idiot had your lenses and gear back up on CRAIGSLIST itself soon! I hope you catch this fucker. Just monitor ebay and other such sites, and call around to camera shops and pawn shops and let them know to be on the lookout for this particular gear. It's not like this guy is going to be able to sell such high-end photo equipment to his low-life friends -- he will probably be stupid enough to try to sell it online or pawn it.

[KETCH ROSSi]

Hi Tom,

it was a 22 semiautomatic, a small bullet in it self but one of the worst to get shot with it, the bullet hit me in the right sholder as I had follen down fighting Him and as my arm was lift toards His gun still tryng to do something He shot me, the bullet given the arm position hit the shoulder recoiset off of it getting in to the cest and going in to the back rib cage getting stucked in on of the upper ribs, incredibly with out touching any major organs, and they left it in there so not to cause demages that the bullet avoided by pure miracle.

So yes I know I'm very luky to be still here today.

Ciao

KETCH ROSSI

[Desert Rune]

Your post reminded me of a video I saw on TV some years back on the proper way to disarm a robber. I can't imagine I'd have the frame of mind to do it right, so I can't imagine the amount of adrenaline going through your system. Just shocking!

I'm going to put up some links so we can all be prepared should it ever happen to us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilLTA4p4MMw

http://www.wikihow.com/Disarm-a-Criminal-with-a-Handgun

I agree about buying and selling items on Craigslist. Always meet in a public place for pricey items and always get their phone number!

[KETCH ROSSi]

Great videos,

in reality the opponent allways move fst with and against you, also the space is limited in every different space and location, in my case across my desk in a very confined space, as for the Adrenaline rush, I did not ave much as bowth of my kydneys were removed 3 years ago and considering taht the glands that produce the Adrenaline are located on the top part of the kidneys.. well no adrenaline rush for me.. no more.

but wath I had was an irrational instinct of survival coming from near 12 years of figthing all over the world for money, so this was the reason why I attacked Him, unfortunatelly it was wrong and stupid of me considering my current health status, so it was also a wock up call to understand that my body will never respond to me the way i did before all the surgeries I had.

Also yes it was shocking but my problem has wlways being that I have no Fear, infact as a very very Stupid man, after I was shot and tied up I was dragged in to the bedroom closet and as the upstairs bedroom has corpet I was thinking, great! Now is going to stain my carpet with blood,

yes I think that something is no longer working properly in my brain.

Thanks for your post and those technics wrilly do work but you must be trained over and over, be in good health and hope the aggressor is not two times your size.

Ciao

KETCH ROSSI

[Ralph Oshiro]

Sorry for your terrible experience, Ketch. This brings up something I've been wondering about myself for some time now. I recently moved into a house. So, naturally, I bought a gun for "home defense." Not that I DIDN'T need it in the apartment (where it was arguably a much more dangerous area). But if I ever had an encounter with a home invader, would I shoot?

I bought a Mossberg 500 18.5"-barrel shotgun (see below). I bought both buckshot and slugs. Now, if I aim this thing at a would-be attacker and pull the trigger, that guy's going to be history. Do I wanna blow a guy totally away that's just trying to steal some Nikons? I asked the gun store guy, "Why can't I just load the first round with a blank shell?" Everyone I ask (including police officers) always says, "Don't do that. Shoot to kill."

http://www.24framefilms.com/500-6.jpg
Mossberg 500 18.5" 12-gauge pump shotgun w/tactical ATI buttstock/rubber buttpad

http://www.24framefilms.com/500-1.jpg
Collapsible ATI synthetic stock w/side saddle

My reasoning is that most home invasion burglers are just out for a few easy bucks, and that the sound of a menacing shotgun blast alone would be enough to scare them off. I don't want to kill them. But being a handheld camraman, I'm also a pretty darn good shot with a handgun or rifle (even though this shotgun is the first weapon I've ever owned).

Here's what I would like to do: Load the first round with a blank shell. The second round with a buckshot shell, and the third round with the slug. At the first sign of an intruder (with no visual), I fire the blank shell into the air. I kill nobody, and scare 99.999% of any would-be attacker off before any live rounds are fired. The second round, the buckshot, would take him out at close range. The third round, the slug, can put someone down at longer ranges, without injuring any bystanders. The gun is right next to my bed, unloaded, with no gun lock; the only rounds readily available are the ones on the side saddle. Extra ammunition is kept in a locked metal cabinet.

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Here's what I would like to do: Load the first round with a blank shell. The second round with a buckshot shell, and the third round with the slug. At the first sign of an intruder (with no visual), I fire the blank shell into the air. I kill nobody, and scare 99.999% of any would-be attacker off before any live rounds are fired.

Don't count on that 99.999% scare factor. Many such intruders are not in a proper frame of mind and may not be turned away that quick. You also can't count on such a scenario. By the time you are aware of an intruder or threat to your life, you may only have a chance to take one shot, it would be a shame if that shot were blank.

Don't assign guilt or prepare for guilt over actions you have not taken. If someone MAKES A CHOICE to put themselves at risk by threatening you, in your home, then you should not feel guilt or hesitate to protect yourself and your family and home.

[Ralph Oshiro]

Well, I know what you're saying Jeff, but 99% of the burglaries committed in this area are by 20-something kids just looking for extra cash. It's such an all-or-nothing strategy. What about a warning shot first, then?

[KETCH ROSSi]

Yes aving a big gun helps, but...

is not that I do not have guns in my house, I also have much expirience shooting guns, I have severall tactical heand guns and tactical high precision rifles; unfortunatelly my gard was down in trusting this person that I let in to my home to see and maeby purchase that wich I was in the intent of selling so as I was in the upstairs studio to show Him the camera He acted immediatelly and as I turned to get a cable He pointed His gun at me and ordered me on the floor, no guns of my property were on site, so I attacked Him and try to disarm Him, unfortunatelly He was strong and fast and my self... well I was not strong in off and the fact that I wast fast in off to surprise Him and grab the gun, meant nothing.

Now wen you here some body braking in to your home, now the senarial is very different, and yes allways shoot to kill, that is wath they say is best to do, but the main Q? is who gives a Man the right to take another mans life?

For me I will be willing to do so only in the true event of self defense meaning it has to be the absolutelly last resort.

People that talk about killing are usually those that have never done it, but in all reality killing a persobn will stay with you all of the rest of your misarable life, because that is waht your life will be after killing some one.. miserable, in life one must allways face consecuences, and remember even criminals have family, childrens, mother/father, they most of the time are normal people thath will soffer the lost of theyr love one just like any other would.

but I agreed on you first and eny body also after, no questions asked.

Ciao

KETCH ROSSI

[Jeremy Hughes]

I hope your body doesn't absorb any toxins from the metals in the bullet. That'd be terrible.

It's also terrible to kill somebody when they're robbing you. They have family and people who care about them. He must have been pretty cold hearted if he shot you and beat you.

[Priyesh P.]

Yes aving a big gun helps, but...

is not that I do not have guns in my house, I also have much expirience shooting guns, I have severall tactical heand guns and tactical high precision rifles; unfortunatelly my gard was down in trusting this person that I let in to my home to see and maeby purchase that wich I was in the intent of selling so as I was in the upstairs studio to show Him the camera He acted immediatelly and as I turned to get a cable He pointed His gun at me and ordered me on the floor, no guns of my property were on site, so I attacked Him and try to disarm Him, unfortunatelly He was strong and fast and my self... well I was not strong in off and the fact that I wast fast in off to surprise Him and grab the gun, meant nothing.

Now wen you here some body braking in to your home, now the senarial is very different, and yes allways shoot to kill, that is wath they say is best to do, but the main Q? is who gives a Man the right to take another mans life?

For me I will be willing to do so only in the true event of self defense meaning it has to be the absolutelly last resort.

People that talk about killing are usually those that have never done it, but in all reality killing a persobn will stay with you all of the rest of your misarable life, because that is waht your life will be after killing some one.. miserable, in life one must allways face consecuences, and remember even criminals have family, childrens, mother/father, they most of the time are normal people thath will soffer the lost of theyr love one just like any other would.

but I agreed on you first and eny body also after, no questions asked.

Ciao

KETCH ROSSI

Ketch, all the best, too.

Your story was really shocking.

That phrase about killing and being left with a miserable life really moved me, until now I've secretly imagined that you can psychologically get away when you've killed someone in self-defence or in a situation where you think you've been right, today I've learned it is not that easy...

Best wishes,

K.

[Martin Drew]

Wow Ketch. Quite a story. I am glad you are still with us. I think I am quite lucky to live in a place with comparatively little gun crime, I don't know anyone who owns a gun for self defense and even the pictures of Ralphs artillery piece scare the shit out of me. Reading this thread makes me wonder if maybe I have lived a too sheltered life...

M

[KETCH ROSSi]

The after effect of the lead in the body has cause severe fever, and on top of it as I have a kidney transplant I take antirejection medication that destrois the immune system so you do not reject the new organ, so no medication on top of medication is sujjested, just deal with it and go on, so the one is a big issue, fill tiered all the time and at times strugol to get up but I must regaine my straingth no matter wath.

I have to go back to Italy soon and will do a comprihasive testing for my kydney and for sure get a second opinion on this bullet in my body and future risk of kippin it in me.

Thanks for your response.

Ciao

KETCH ROSSI

[KETCH ROSSi]

Ketch, all the best, too.

Your story was really shocking.

That phrase about killing and being left with a miserable life really moved me, until now I've secretly imagined that you can psychologically get away when you've killed someone in self-defence or in a situation where you think you've been right, today I've learned it is not that easy...

Best wishes,

Priyesh

Hi Kalone, thanks for your support.

Life is never easy but we must allways go forward, remembering that as life is precious for as it is the same for any one, and any one deserves forgiveness.

Ciao

KETCH ROSSI

[KETCH ROSSi]

Wow Ketch. Quite a story. I am glad you are still with us. I think I am quite lucky to live in a place with comparatively little gun crime, I don't know anyone who owns a gun for self defense and even the pictures of Ralphs artillery piece scare the shit out of me. Reading this thread makes me wonder if maybe I have lived a too sheltered life...

M

Hi Martin, thanks, me to.

The world we are now living in is a very deceptive one but also a wonderfull one, we must learn to deal with the bed and enjoy the good.

We learn from expirience ours or others but learn we must or next time we may not be here to talk about it.

Ciao

KETCH ROSSI

[Shawn Nelson]

Ketch,
I'm so sorry man, thank God you're going okay. Thank you for passing on your story.

If you don't mind, what caliber was the gun that shot you and where did it strike? I'm just very curious. If you take offense to such a bold question then feel free to ignore it.

[Hrvoje Simic]

Support, man.
Glad you're o.k. Shocking stuff.

Best wishes.

[KETCH ROSSi]

Ketch,
I'm so sorry man, thank God you're going okay. Thank you for passing on your story.

If you don't mind, what caliber was the gun that shot you and where did it strike? I'm just very curious. If you take offense to such a bold question then feel free to ignore it.

Hi shawn, thanks for carryng, and I have no reson to get offended as I decided to share my misfortune little Graislist adventure with the all Reduser comunity but if you look at my #27 post of this thread you will see that5 I already put that info, just so I do not repeat my post here.

Thanks again for your support.

CIAO

KETCH ROSSI

[KETCH ROSSi]

Support, man.
Glad you're o.k. Shocking stuff.

Best wishes.

Thanks Omen, ya shoking it is.

Ciao

KETCH ROSSI

[Mark B.]

Those 22 calibers are crazy, tumbling inside the body. I heard of one guy (well, two different guys actually) that got shot in the forehead with a .22 and the bullet zigzagged 90-degrees just behind the skull, exiting out the side of the head. No brain damage or lasting effects other than the entry/exit wounds.

What did the guy look like that robbed you? Any distinguishing features? I'd ask his name but it was probably a fake and probably useless to keep an eye out for it in the future.

[Eugene]

I hope your body doesn't absorb any toxins from the metals in the bullet.

I remember seeing on TV, that if you get a lead bullet in the knee or other joint, the acid in the joint will dissolve the lead and wil poison you. But if the bullet is not in a joint, you can leave it there and not worry too much about lead poisoning.

[KETCH ROSSi]

Those 22 calibers are crazy, tumbling inside the body. I heard of one guy (well, two different guys actually) that got shot in the forehead with a .22 and the bullet zigzagged 90-degrees just behind the skull, exiting out the side of the head. No brain damage or lasting effects other than the entry/exit wounds.

What did they guy look like that robbed you? Any distinguishing features? I'd ask his name but it was probably a fake and probably useless to keep an eye out for it in the future.

Hi Lowkus, it was Asian, not Chinese or Japanese, maeby Corean but not sure at all, and the name it give me was Dany and I do think it was shorth for His wryll name, not sure but just positive.

Ciao

KETCH ROSSI

[KETCH ROSSi]

I remember seeing on TV, that if you get a lead bullet in the knee or other joint, the acid in the joint will dissolve the lead and wil poison you. But if the bullet is not in a joint, you can leave it there and not worry too much about lead poisoning.

I definatelly hope that those people in tv were correct.

Ciao

KETCH ROSSI

[Mark B.]

Can metal detectors pick up a bullet lodged in a torso? I'd think you'd want to remove it just to allow faster times getting through customs.

[KETCH ROSSi]

Can metal detectors pick up a bullet lodged in a torso? I'd think you'd want to remove it just to allow faster times getting through customs.

No concernes there Lowkus, I alredy set them off every time as I have 9 screws and a 14" surgical L shape plate in to my left Knee down to my leg half way.

But thanks for your concerne.

Here you can see it and also the reason whay I falled to take His gun away and beat the leaving crap out of Him.

Ciao

KETCH ROSSI

[Steven M. Bailey]

Sorry for your terrible experience, Ketch. This brings up something I've been wondering about myself for some time now. I recently moved into a house. So, naturally, I bought a gun for "home defense." Not that I DIDN'T need it in the apartment (where it was arguably a much more dangerous area). But if I ever had an encounter with a home invader, would I shoot?

I bought a Mossberg 500 18.5"-barrel shotgun (see below). I bought both buckshot and slugs. Now, if I aim this thing at a would-be attacker and pull the trigger, that guy's going to be history. Do I wanna blow a guy totally away that's just trying to steal some Nikons? I asked the gun store guy, "Why can't I just load the first round with a blank shell?" Everyone I ask (including police officers) always says, "Don't do that. Shoot to kill."

http://www.24framefilms.com/500-6.jpg
Mossberg 500 18.5" 12-gauge pump shotgun w/tactical ATI buttstock/rubber buttpad

http://www.24framefilms.com/500-1.jpg
Collapsible ATI synthetic stock w/side saddle

My reasoning is that most home invasion burglers are just out for a few easy bucks, and that the sound of a menacing shotgun blast alone would be enough to scare them off. I don't want to kill them. But being a handheld camraman, I'm also a pretty darn good shot with a handgun or rifle (even though this shotgun is the first weapon I've ever owned).

Here's what I would like to do: Load the first round with a blank shell. The second round with a buckshot shell, and the third round with the slug. At the first sign of an intruder (with no visual), I fire the blank shell into the air. I kill nobody, and scare 99.999% of any would-be attacker off before any live rounds are fired. The second round, the buckshot, would take him out at close range. The third round, the slug, can put someone down at longer ranges, without injuring any bystanders. The gun is right next to my bed, unloaded, with no gun lock; the only rounds readily available are the ones on the side saddle. Extra ammunition is kept in a locked metal cabinet.

The sound of that first live round racking into the chamber is warning enough. If that doesn't make them pee their pants and change their ways there is little hope for the blank. Also a blank can be lethal in a confined area. (not to mention knocking pictures off the wall)

The old timers liked rock salt. (also deadly if too close). There are also rubber balls and beanbags. Only if you want to get sued.

I like #8 shot. Its not as likely to find your neighbors house through the wall, and a slug is just going to leave big holes in your own stuff.

I don't have a gun to protect my stuff. There is no ones life worth so little as to send him to hell over a piece of inanimate matter. My guns are to protect my wife, daughter, and three little boys. So if I have to shoot some-one in my house, I have a backhoe and a rose garden. What can I say I was raised in the woods.

[Mark B.]

That shotgun might be too powerful if you're concerned about the life of the intruder. Buy yourself a small 9mm and the attacker might have a chance at staying alive after you've fired a round in him.

[chuck colburn]

Backhoe! lol

Wonderful tool. Is it a Case 580k extendahoe? Very popular model here in the Northwest. Lotsa of scenic land around here too.
Interesting name for a production house you got there. lol

[Mark K.]

Christ! I think you fellas need to be more concerned with getting hold of some decent gun control laws in your country than a bloody 4k camera.

[Zakaree Sandberg]

if anyone tries to rob from me.. they will find some serious fire power pointed at them.. i will unleash

[Steven M. Bailey]

Christ! I think you fellas need to be more concerned with getting hold of some decent gun control laws in your country than a bloody 4k camera.

Gun control = He who has the guns, has control

Gun control = hitting what you aim at

Gun control = outlaw guns, and only outlaws will have guns

All government enforcement is ultimately backed up by fire power. In a government of the people, by the people, and for the people, taking away the fundamental right to bear arm's is paramount to enslaving them to the will of a dictatorship.

It has happened through-out history "lay down your arms" "we will protect you""look how safe you are" BAM you're a slave.

Just ask the German Jews of the 1940's how that plan worked out.

[Martin Drew]

It would be great if this thread didn't vear off into a gun control debate.. which I feel could so easily happen. I am sure we all have different views about that as we do about religion and politics generally.

M

[Steven M. Bailey]

Backhoe! lol

Wonderful tool. Is it a Case 580k extendahoe? Very popular model here in the Northwest. Lotsa of scenic land around here too.
Interesting name for a production house you got there. lol

Kubota L35 commercial

When I was younger I sucked at video games and in combat I was always Blownapart, so that became my screen name. When I got better I went by Stryker for a short time but found that Blownapart was more unique. It rolled over into what I think is a good production name. Blownaprtstudios. I haven't actually had time to build the studio yet. Probably this fall if all goes right.

My dad was a hard rock miner when I was little and we used to have dynamite in the garage. I love blowing things up. In a pyro-technic sort of way. (safe and controlled. Don't take me wrong on that). nobody gets hurt. it's a rule

[Priyesh P.]

It would be great if this thread didn't vear off into a gun control debate.. which I feel could so easily happen. I am sure we all have different views about that as we do about religion and politics generally.

M

That´s totally right, Martin. And to my knowledge such discussions always (ALWAYS) lead completely off-track, like it already did with "blownapart's" remark on jews that could have defended themselves in nazi-germany - that idea alone is like suggesting to put off a fire with liquid hydrogen.

[Mark K.]

Gun control = He who has the guns, has control

Gun control = hitting what you aim at

Gun control = outlaw guns, and only outlaws will have guns

All government enforcement is ultimately backed up by fire power. In a government of the people, by the people, and for the people, taking away the fundamental right to bear arm's is paramount to enslaving them to the will of a dictatorship.

It has happened through-out history "lay down your arms" "we will protect you""look how safe you are" BAM you're a slave.

Just ask the German Jews of the 1940's how that plan worked out.

Sorry mate but that's complete and utter rubbish - most western nations have strict gun control laws nowadays, and a tiny fraction of the gun-related violence that the United States has. And that's never going to change without getting rid of that ridiculous 2nd amendment.

I know this is off topic, so this will be my last post about it.

[laguun]

Ketch,

so sorry to hear this happened to you. all the best for your recovery from our whole team!

[Steven M. Bailey]

That´s totally right, Martin. And to my knowledge such discussions always (ALWAYS) lead completely off-track, like it already did with "blownapart's" remark on jews that could have defended themselves in nazi-germany - that idea alone is like suggesting to put off a fire with liquid hydrogen.

I wasn't referring to the Jew's defending themselves as much as the assertion of power gained by a small group of people over the relatively moral masses in general, Jew and German alike

http://www.ssaa.org.au/newssaa/political%20archive/quotations/quoteozcrime.htm

http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?id=30&issue=015

I was born on the other side of the fence and these will be my closing remarks. If I have offended any one than my apology's as that was not my intent. Who believes statistics anyway

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Christ! I think you fellas need to be more concerned with getting hold of some decent gun control laws in your country than a bloody 4k camera.

Not to get into a political debate, but those who spout "gun control", even people who live in the USA, are fairly naive. No way to control something of which there are over 150 million of, most untraceable. There are already tons of laws in place and it is illegal to carry a gun in most places unless it is properly disassembled and/or disarmed, in a locked case and the owner/carrier has a proper government issued permit. As "gun control" laws continuously get piled on top of existing laws (often just new ways to re-state the current laws or associated punishments), all it does is make it harder for good, law-obiding citizens to purchase firearms. Even if possession of a handgun was suddenly made punishable by death, I doubt that would have much impact on the criminal element. Even if all legal gun sales were stopped overnight and all US gun manufacturers shut down today, what becomes of the over 150 million firearms already in place? You actually think that people are going to just hand them over? I wouldn't, because I know that not everyone else will, besides I have the freedom in this country to own one.

So until someone actually can provide a solution that removes all guns from the hands of known and potential criminals while still allowing me to have one to protect my family and home, the discussion is moot. There isn't even anything to argue about, it's just the way things are. People campaigning around for "gun control" would be akin to people campaigning for the prohibition of grey hair.

[Desert Rune]

It has happened through-out history "lay down your arms" "we will protect you""look how safe you are" BAM you're a slave.

Just ask the German Jews of the 1940's how that plan worked out.

*SIGH*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law

[Ace]

Thank you for Godwin'ing the thread Steven!

[KETCH ROSSi]

Ketch,

so sorry to hear this happened to you. all the best for your recovery from our whole team!

Thanks Laguun, the care you fellows REDusers have shown me with your interest and kind words of support is helping more then shrinks and medicine put togheter, thank you.


Ciao

KETCH ROSSI
www,KETCHFRAME.com

[KETCH ROSSi]

It would be great if this thread didn't vear off into a gun control debate.. which I feel could so easily happen. I am sure we all have different views about that as we do about religion and politics generally.

M

Hey Martin,

thanks and tryng to not let this post become just that a debate.

I have taken some time before posting about wath appened to me, I dint' want to at first, for selfish reasons, I did not wanted to ansewr questions about the event and have to remember the event over and over.

But after days of not slipping and continuosly being reminded in my mind, I decided to warn others so they could prevent this from appening to them.

Filling your life completely in the hands of on other persone is very hard to describe, basically you truelly see your life at the end of the road.

Any ways thanks again for your care, I'm sure every post here is only in good intent just that each one of as has opinions and at times vearing off is very easy as a single different element is broad in to play.

Ciao

KETCH ROSSI
www,KETCFRAME.com

[KETCH ROSSi]

Thank you for Godwin'ing the thread Steven!

Hi Acehole, I had to google this word as was the first time I come across, so thanks to you also for your interest in thi post and your support.

Ciao

KETCH ROSSI
www.KETCHFRAME.com

[Adrian T.]

Ketch, thanks for sharing your story. I wish you a speedy recovery, both physically and mentally. And be sure to get a second opinion about the bullet in your body!

[Ken Willinger]

Good luck with your recovery Ketch. You're very lucky to still be with us. It looks like you've survived a few other difficulties. And now this one as well. You must be a cat with 9 lives. Start keeping a low profile though...we don't know which life you may be on now!

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Thank you for Godwin'ing the thread Steven!

Hehe... Still a fair analogy though, but the '40s Germany reference probably wasn't the best. Throughout history, the disbanding of civilian protective groups and suppression of arms has always proven problematic. Hence the reason why the USA was founded with the explicit intention of allowing the civilian populace to hold arms and form militias.

The control of guns and civilian arms was a hotly debated topic even with the first continental congress sessions at the founding of our nation. And I think Benjamin Franklin said it best when addressing the conference on Feb. 17, 1775 -- "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

[KETCH ROSSi]

Ketch, thanks for sharing your story. I wish you a speedy recovery, both physically and mentally. And be sure to get a second opinion about the bullet in your body!

Thanks, I wanted to post a warning for others but this is also helping me tremendously, you guys ar great fellows and your support is most needed and welcome.

Most definatelly I will get a second opinion as soon as I get Back home in Italy as I have to do all the yearly exams for my transplant and up coming knee Tatanium inplant.

Thanks again,

Ciao

KETCH ROSSI
www.KETCHFRAME.com

[KETCH ROSSi]

Good luck with your recovery Ketch. You're very lucky to still be with us. It looks like you've survived a few other difficulties. And now this one as well. You must be a cat with 9 lives. Start keeping a low profile though...we don't know which life you may be on now!

Thanks, Lucky I think is understated at this point when considering that I'm mow in my fifth live, so I guess I have four more to go.

Ciao,

KETCH ROSSI
www.KETCHFRAME.com

[Joe Carney]

I think a tazer and a Louisville Slugger can get the point across without killing someone.
I don't own a gun, because I'm afraid my wife will use it on me. hehehe.

As far as gun control, in Washington DC it's illegal to own a handgun, and it doesn't stop the criiminals at all.
They know they can go into just about any home without fear of being shot back at.
If the person living there defends themselves with a gun, they get prosecuted and can go
to jail.

On the other hand, do you really plan on walking around fully armed every where you go?
It's just as likely if a murderer comes at you through the front door, you won't get to your gun
on time.

No easy answers.

[Jeff Kilgroe]

No easy answers.

Got that right, zeke. I would also say that a tazer and bat would be just as leathal -- one clean blow with a louisville slugger could easily mean death or severe brain damage to the recipient.

Anyway, I think we've hijacked this thread enough.

Once again, Ketch, glad you're still with us. Hopefully you're recovering well.

[KETCH ROSSi]

Yes I'm and thanks again for all your support, in short I will be planning a RED's party at my place in Cali and I would love to have as many as you can come, you are great fellows.

Ciao,

KETCH ROSSI
www.KETCHFRAME.com

[Moir]

Ketch

Truly shocked at your experience, and best wishes for a fast recovery.

[KETCH ROSSi]

Thanks much Moir, tryng to do just that.

Ciao,

KETCH ROSSI
www.KETCHFRAME.com

[Paolo Tinari]

Ketch,
i'm sorry. I can hardly imagine how painful and frustrating your experience has been.
But now don't do like Paul Kersey did years ago...

[KETCH ROSSi]

Grazie Paolo per il tuo appoggio morale,

and do not warry I'm a strong willed person and I will recover with almost no secondary effects that may leed me to do the untincable.

Ciao,

KETCH ROSSI
www.KETCHFRAME.com

PS: Saro' di ritorno a Roma presto, spero molto presto, se desideri tenerti in contatto puoi scrivermi a KETCHROSSI@KETCHFRAME.COM

[Steven M. Bailey]

Let's all pray for the day when the only people shot are shot with the RED-ONE. If I have to shoot some-one let it be digital, and in 4k

Good luck Ketch, and may your next four lives bring you peace of mind and less adversity.

ILLEGITIMUS NON CARBORUNDUM :shifty:

[Cory Schulthies]

Speedy recovery, get well soon. A good reminder that craigslist isn't always a safe thing. last week I was buying an item from someone on craigslist, I was nervous about it, so I went with a friend. What surprised me is that When I got there the guy was there with his kids and welcomed me and my friend in. He was a great guy, but I just couldn't stop thinking how he was risking the safety of his kids.

As far as the gun control debate is concerned, cant we keep the controversial topics in reduser between cameras, mac vs pc, adobe vs apple, canon vs Nikon ect....

i mean whats the point, next thing we know we will all be debating abortion and end up upset at each other.

I'd just like to say say if you do choose to own a gun where it is legal PLEASE keep it locked up so kids, or anybody that breaks into your home can't get it. I personally own a Shotgun, but I leave it at my fathers house, because he has a good quality gun safe and I do not. Also don't get one unless you have taken some gun safety classes or some thing (marksmanship merit badge baby).

But above all just be careful and avoid bad situations and you will probably never have a need for one.

[KETCH ROSSi]

Let's all pray for the day when the only people shot are shot with the RED-ONE. If I have to shoot some-one let it be digital, and in 4k

Good luck Ketch, and may your next four lives bring you peace of mind and less adversity.

ILLEGITIMUS NON CARBORUNDUM :shifty:

Sounds great, I like that very much shoot and get shot at in 4k, much better then 22 caliber or any caliber.

Thanks for your support and hopefully will be so.


Hey shutter thanks for your support, you are correct that people some times are not much careful at all (like my self/daa!) and this is one of the reason for my post, hopefully alerting others.
Also you absolutelly correct that guns should be kept away from children and any body but yourself and to be used as life or dead situation, also this bealive of myn was the reason of more beating as the criminal wanted to know were my guns whore but I did toked like a man(a little one, but a man)and he left with no guns of my to use on the street wich was the last I wanted, my guns responsible for more crime or lives.

Thanks again for your interest in my health.

Ciao,

KETCH ROSSI
www.KETCHFRAME.com

[Adrian Correia]

Ketch....haven't had my chance so here I am saying rest up and I am glad you are fine.....now finish your website! It sucks you had such nice glass taken...hopefully you will get it all back or at least be able to replace it...

[KETCH ROSSi]

Thanks Adrian,

I'm starting to think I got the wrong people to design my site, not very professionals at all, the guys at digital media, but I will find some better and finish up, I must.

as far as the loss of property I will meet tomorrow with my insurance adjustor so I hope to make a good deal with him to replace my staff.

Thanks again for showing your support.

Ciao,

KETCH ROSSI
www.KETCHFRAME.com

[JD Holloway]

Get well soon Ketch.
All the best from Toronto.

[Matt Garrett]

I went to visit Ketch yesterday and he seemed to be recovering very well.
He could use a little down time to work on his pool game though.
:P

[KETCH ROSSi]

Get well soon Ketch.
All the best from Toronto.

Thanks, I think fisicaly I'm almost ther, its just the mind that needs a little more time.

Ciao

KETCH ROSSI

[KETCH ROSSi]

[QUOTE=Matt Garrett;50868]

He could use a little down time to work on his pool game though.

Hey Matt, it was great meeting you but next time my shoulder will be better for sure, so will play again.

Take care body, I enjoy your visit.

Ciao

KETCH ROSSI

[Erik Bien]

At least in Colorado, shoot to kill. Wrongful death liability tops out at $250K, whereas liability for lifelong medical care could easily go into the millions. :gun:

I agree, though, it would be a much better world if people only shot each other with cameras!

My own best wishes for a speedy recovery, Ketch.

[Andrew Kimery]

Ketch, glad you're alive and on track to getting better. Hopefully this will be a reminder to everyone to practice safety both in the world world and on line. Most of the people are good out there, but the bad apples out there can be really bad.


-A

[KETCH ROSSi]

It is the same in California or Back home in Italy for that matter, but some times is not only what you must do but what you can do in a surprise situation where you have nothing to defend your self with, other than get the weapon from the attacker(or try).

At the end of the day, in pain and upset but just glad it let me come out a live.

Thanks Erik, for your support.

Ciao

KETCH ROSSI

[KETCH ROSSi]

Hopefully this will be a reminder to everyone to practice safety both in the world world and on line. Most of the people are good out there, but the bad apples out there can be really bad.


-A

Yes Adkimery it is the main reason for my posting,.

Also I like to thank you for your support.

Ciao

KETCH ROSSI
www.KETCHFRAME.com

[Nik Manning]

Well before I was 18 and moved out of east cleveland, ohio. I was shot at at least 4 times(they missed :)) my little brother was shot in the arm at 9, I have been almost robbed at least 5 times by guys with guns or knives. Once had a bullet hole in my shirt but no bullet in me. Weird! Clothes were to big I guess. :) I remember running up the street when my friends mothers boyfriend shot him and his brother 2 or 3 times. That sucked. Other than that it was a pretty good neighborhood except for the poverty.

I am glad to hear that you are okay. I am proud of you for trying to fight. Keep hope alive!

[KETCH ROSSi]

Hey Nik, sure sounds you had your good share of S...t happening to you and arround you, but is also good that you are okay.

My self doing much better, thanks for your care.

And yes I'm also proud of my self for not stand down even in front of a armed criminal, but also it was stupid, because I was wrong in thinking He wanted to kill me, He did not, or He could still have don it after.

But at the ebd we wore both laky.

Thanks again for your interest.

Ciao

KETCH ROSSI

[JohnF]

Ketch,

I've only just caught this thread so I'm sorry if I'm late in saying I wish you well and all the best.

I've unfortunatley been threatened at gunpoint and shot at a number of times both in the line of work as a camera-op but also as an individual. They missed me but they are still quite shocking events that stick in the mind.

After reading this thread I'd like to say a great deal regarding what was brought up but instead I'll keep it short

Don't let the bastards grind us down. There is bad in the world, but also good - let's all try to help those who face the shit not be turned bad by it, instead let's focus on and encourage the good (and openly and honestly face the causes of the world's problems). Let's create some hope instead of a mood of dystopia.
As someone has already said let's help make a world where the only people who get shot get shot with a RED!

If you throw the party and I'm in the neck of the woods drop me a line and I'll bring the drinks - some of them anyway as I know how much camera-ops can throw back!!!

Peace and good health

JohnF

[KETCH ROSSi]

Hi JohnF,

you are never to late to show your support to some one, so tank you.

I agree with you, and I try to never let the good things be obscured by negative experiences, and I channel my energy for positive attitude no matter what, some time turns out to be more difficult then others but the support I recieved in this forum helped me more then any of you will ever know.

I was completely blocked in my mind but now at last I'm back and working on a completely new script to include this recent events and use it as again positive flow, making, it, work in my favor as well as use it to convei a series of messages to try and make a better place for every one, I to like allways to think of ways to do my part, for now I know no better way then use Storytelling as a media to do just that.

Thanks again for your support,

Ciao

KETCH ROSSI
www.KETCHFRAME.com

[pat@hpnc.com]

Glad you are OK and thanks for posting the warning and info. I will have to make sure I am more carefull next time I use craigslist. But generaly I meet people at a parking lot of a big busy store half way between where we both live.

[KETCH ROSSi]

Glad you are OK and thanks for posting the warning and info. I will have to make sure I am more carefull next time I use craigslist. But generaly I meet people at a parking lot of a big busy store half way between where we both live.

Thanks for your support, I think it was almost a must to post this thread so to inform others of the possible danger when using Craigslist.

Thanks again for your response and please continue to be carefull during any transactions with complete strangers.

Ciao

KETCH ROSSI

[BigLu]

Wow, I am blown away.
I am so happy you are here thats really what matters in the end.

Makes me wish I were there.
They don't call me BigLu for nothing.
I feel I want to post a similar add and catch them.
Robbers don't do it just once and usually its not there first time.

Similar things seem to happen to people selling
Shitzu puppies.

Im am very happy you are all good Ketch.
Thank you for sharing such a tragic event.
It's something to take for the rest of my life.

Luie
(2003 one night, carjacked at gun point, strip searched out of my car at gun point to my back, lost everything at gun point )

[BASSAM MSSALATIE]

Wow, I am blown away.
I am so happy you are here thats really what matters in the end.

Makes me wish I were there.
They don't call me BigLu for nothing.

:biggrin: HI make me laugh .will you post your photo .BigLu ..

[KETCH ROSSi]

Wow, I am blown away.
I am so happy you are here thats really what matters in the end.

Makes me wish I were there.
They don't call me BigLu for nothing.
I feel I want to post a similar add and catch them.
Robbers don't do it just once and usually its not there first time.

Similar things seem to happen to people selling
Shitzu puppies.

Im am very happy you are all good Ketch.
Thank you for sharing such a tragic event.
It's something to take for the rest of my life.

Luie
(2003 one night, carjacked at gun point, strip searched out of my car at gun point to my back, lost everything at gun point )

Hey Luie,

You must be some reader to have found this long burried thread.

I thank you for your kind words of support, truly appreciated, and yes I would have love to have a big guess staying in with me that day.

This guys were pros and I'm convinced, and so were the Detectives, that it was not his first and will not have been his last time doing this kind of stuff.

His questions about the merchandise for sale were all related to sick out info about my place who leaved with me, any childrens or such etc.


Fortunately I have been recovering well, apart for the constant fever brake outs do to the bullet still inside of me and the reaction with the heavy doses of Antiregection medications that I take daily.

I'm not sure I understand correct, was the carjack at gunpoint event happened to you?

Ciao,

KETCH ROSSI

[Davis]

Ketch,

Thank you for the warning as I am in the process of selling some gear as we speak and I will make sure to meet people at the coffee shop across from the Scientology Celebrity center where there are always lots of security people roaming around :)

Your strength and positive attitude are inspiring. No dought you will go on to have a full and rewarding life while the criminal who tried to take your life away will end up either dead or in prison.

I know this happend a while back but I will still be thinking positive things for you in the days to to come.

[DPsurfer]

Hey Ketch Hope you are doing better! Me and my son went to buy a Canon 100-400 adverted on CL for some sports photography he does. $900 was the price. We went to starbucks in Irvine. Nobody showed. Two guys in a dirty corolla looking real shady drove by us though and left. We left after 20 mins.
I emailed the guy back looking to meet again and no reply. I used a differnent email account and asked if the lens was still available and the guy emailed me back saying it was. Called the Irvine police and talked to them about it and they said can't help? Anyways we did buy a 20d body from a photographer upgrading, had 4000 activations for 540 off CL. Man it sure was sketchy though. Nice old photo guy though.
Here's the guys email address
ryan mettock <ryanmet1124@gmail.com>
On Feb 18, 2008 9:49 AM, wrote:
> Hi Do you still have the lense for sale?
> What condition is it ? How old and any problems with it?
> Thanks John
Here's his reply
Hey, I still got it. It's mint condition, literally... no problems
with it at all... let's set a date and time to meet
This would make a good RED movie no?
Cheers Jim

[DPsurfer]

P.S. That was a messed up post at the end. The email part was the bad guys
stuff not the good old photo guy! Thanks Jim

[KETCH ROSSi]

Hey Davis,

yes do be very careful.

I tank you kindly for your words and support, that it is always needed and appreciated, now more then ever.


Hey Jim,

thanks, I'm way better, and you also do good to be careful, especially one with your son.

It is incredible the amount of criminals praying on unsuspecting victims or trusting (and a bit stupid ones ) like my self (not anymore).

Ciao,

KETCH ROSSI

[fphgrb01]

Jee. sometimes the off topic forums are so much on topic. Ketch, reading your story was quite an emotional thing. I have to say that I am truly fascinated with your strong attitude and your positive thoughts. I wish you a super speedy recovery and getting in a good health shape fast so that we all could watch your movies.

PS I am not sure but would have security cameras helped in this situation? I mean post factum, aiding the detectives to catch the gunman? Sometimes it is ironic how camera operators we are obsessed too much with our precious babies and we do not put a ceiling camera or two to protect both us and our investment.

[Alexander Nikishin]

Man Ketch that's horrible, scary stuff!

Hope you heal up well.

[Ivan G]

Thank God you're ok Ketch. That's all that really matters and hopefully be more alert next time. It's unfortunate but your tragedy should be lessons to others. I'm no BigLu myself but I'm not gun shy either.

[Elizabeth]

Hello Ketch -

Zowie Zing! What a inspirational person you are!

Since my REDUSER addiction began last fall, you have been one of my heroes on the site ... and this was without having even read this post.

Now, after this one post has been unburied, I can really seeing some more of the really crazy things you have been experiencing recently. I marvel your positive attitude in dealing with the unfortunate events and I am witness to the degree by which your personality has deeply affected and continues to inspire other people.

My appreciation for your stellar character has now multiplied ... many-fold.

I should hope that I might meet you in person one day to thank you for shining so brightly. May all the abundant kudos and blessings that you deserve find you NOW!

Peace, Elizabeth

[KETCH ROSSi]

Hy guys,

I'm doing better every day (well not every day, most days), as this has happened some time a go now, I have been trying hard to put it behind me, and I can reassure all that I did learned my lessons and so I hope all of those which have read this post and so incredibly kindly supported me in the after mat of the event.


It is one of my goals to inspire and others in any way I can so that they can see Life just a little brighter and in a more positive way, but I have to say that in this very forum I have been inspire my self and projected towards a Higher level of gratitude and love as I have received so much support and some of the kindest words of care that were not ever received before.


So thanks guys again for your support and kindness, but please do know that I'm now way better, and again this event was several months back.


fphgrb01,

thanks very much for your good words and rest assure that this forum will soon see the making of some of the most interesting stories ever told on the silver screen, and yes cameras were getting installed but were not yet up and running at the time of the event.

Alexander,

Thanks much for your kind words, I'm a tuff one and healing is what I do best.


Abu Reno,

thanks for your interest as well, and one of the main purpose of this post was exactly that of inform others so they do not fail victims of the same events.


Elizabeth,

what can I say to your words so very kind filled with passionate and caring motives, I thank you from my heart for them and for your strong support, it would be a pleasure for me to meet you as well.


Ciao,

KETCH ROSSI

[Luis de la Cerda]

Ketch,

I just found this thread and I'm sorry you had to live through that. I've been robbed at gunpoint myself and I live in one of the most dangerous places... Mexico City. It's not uncommon to hear about robberies, kidnappings, express kidnappings, fraud, etc... from close friends here. It has, however, taught me a few good lessons in personal safety that I would like to share with everyone... First, when conducting a business transaction that involves a considerable sum of money, always meet at the bank (not at your branch, but definitely your bank). There's armed personnel there to keep you safe and you can deposit the money into your account right there. Keep your eyes open on the way home, and if you see something weird going on, return to the bank immediately. The best way to determine if someone is following you is driving very slow. That'll make anyone following you stick out from the crowd that'll be overtaking you. Avoid routes that involve many stoplights and if you must drive through one, try to approach it slowly as you reach the intersection so as to never find yourself trapped. Ideally, the light should go green by the time you reach it. Never share personal information with strangers (family stories, names, details about what you do, where you live, etc...). Never carry too much cash with you, but never go around empty handed, because a robber who gets nothing for all his troubles might get upset.Suppose you need to go somewhere with 1000 dollars or more, try to stash 876 (random number) somewhere safe and carry the remaining 124 dollars in your wallet. Try to stash your id's and credit cards somewhere safe and only carry the absolute minimum with you at all times. Shred all your bank statements, old bills, transaction receipts, etc... so as not to leave a paper trail in the garbage bin that someone can sift through. I specifically instruct all financial institutions I deal with not to send me any statements or bills, I check them on the internet. Always have a clean computer to do your internet transactions/bank movements. Don't let anyone into your house that you don't absolutely need to (plumber, gardener, etc...) If you have a gun and don't plan on using it, hide it. Most gunshot victims are shot with their own guns. (It's illegal in my country to own firearms with very limited exceptions.)

Now for the hard stuff, try to always be positive about everyone. Yes, there are some bad apples out there, but it's not worth losing your faith in mankind over the few bad ones. We're basically animals, so approach strangers with the same caution you would a dog, cat, bear, horse, etc... Be prepared to lose anything you own. We don't really own anything in life. Be cautious, but enjoy life. :)

I hope anyone can find this helpful.

[KETCH ROSSi]

Hey cholo,

thanks for the support, and yes Mexico DF it can surely be a creasy place, I spent about 6 months there, driving every day back and fourth to Satellite, then they say that in Italy we drive like creasy? I don't even have a category for how people drive in Mexico city, but did love it there, in general, great people, great food and incredible sites.

I hope as well that this post had at list saved a few (less stupid the I ) when doing any transactions and such.

Thanks for sharing.

Ciao,

KETCH ROSSI

[ZIAD AHMED]

So sorry for what happen to you man, I had some one before come in to my house to bay my camera, I made sure that couple of my friend in the other room waiting and making sure that every thing goes fine in addition to that my gun saw loaded and ready for any wrong things that could happen from the buyer, and very important when the buyer gave me his name I checked him out and made sure that he is clean with no bad records.
Make sure you get all his info before you met him, it's a jungle out there and you have to be careful, and ready for any thing.
And there is not thing wrong having hidden cameras round your house, specilly you have expensive equipment, and the insurance will be a lot cheaper.
Be careful out there.

[Michael McVicar]

I am truly sorry to hear this happened. The immediate decision to leave the bullet in made in the emergency room may have been the right decision for the moment. Please continue to seek medical help though. Bullets move and the risk of infection can be very high. Especially with a compromised immune system. It's nothing to mess with. The material losses can be an opportunity to try other pieces of kit that you would have never tried otherwise. You have now survived that getting shot thing out of the way. You were in some ways very lucky. You are a great soul and we hope you are around with us for a lot longer.

[Erik Franzén]

Why do these threads get necroed every so often? Strange...

[Zac C]

Guys, this Thread is from 2007. Ketch is still here and still excited about RED.

[KETCH ROSSi]

Hey I much appreciate your tough fortunately this as Zac already pointed out is 3 Years ago,
and now doing good, well, as good as I can hehe.

Yeah there should be a way to not allow old threads to be revived ;)

[Martin Weiss]

I hate it when you have to re-live through some worries, before realizing that it is an old thread.

Closed now.