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Kip Hewitt
06-21-2007, 01:03 PM
Last Night Ted brought the RED demo to a small post house/rental facility in Santa Ana California. He packed the house of course and we all were treated to a screening of Crossing The Line.

The system they were using was a 1080p projector and 5.1 sound system from Best Buy. The same basic set-up that most of our audience will be using.

I just thought you guys would like to know that it looked amazing. I saw the 4K demo at NAB 3 times and I was blown away like most. But that experience felt completely surreal to me. There was a disconnect. Like i had bought a ticket opening weekend for Peter Jackson's latest blockbuster.

But sitting there last night watching it again was the first time I felt that this level of cinematic quality was within my reach. I could imagine myself sharing my own work with my friends and family sitting on my couch, in my living room!

That heavy, tangible feeling, is something that I never would have expected and certainly have never experienced before from... you know, a camera. But now that it's inside me it feels like my life is changing.

Which is exactly what I'm looking for.

Craig Schober
06-21-2007, 01:15 PM
thanks for sharing. sometimes i feel like everyone has seen the full version except for me.

just out of curiosity, was the movie playing off of an hd-dvd or blu-ray or just spooling off some hard drive in a laptop (if so, was it running apple prores?)?

Cory Schulthies
06-21-2007, 01:34 PM
man, I wish they would release a torrent of the full thing in 2k so we can watch it, and 4k so we can get a better idea of how 4k will be. I wish I didn't have Final semester tests during NAB. Now it seems like most of us will have to wait for Mr. Jackson to Put crossing the line as a easter egg on a future release.

Keith Nealy
06-21-2007, 01:42 PM
Thanks for sharing that.

I get "chicken skin" just tinkin' bout it.

Alexander Nikishin
06-21-2007, 01:52 PM
What sort of a 1080P projector?

Kip Hewitt
06-21-2007, 02:52 PM
thanks for sharing. sometimes i feel like everyone has seen the full version except for me.

just out of curiosity, was the movie playing off of an hd-dvd or blu-ray or just spooling off some hard drive in a laptop (if so, was it running apple prores?)?

Ted said it was ProRes encoded played back from a Final Cut timeline.

Kip Hewitt
06-21-2007, 02:57 PM
What sort of a 1080P projector?

I forgot to ask. Sorry.

Hanging on the ceiling it looked, to me, a lot like this one:

http://www.projectorpeople.com/projectors/projdtls.asp?itemid=21835&itmname=Epson+Home+Cinema+10800

Brian Ferguson
06-21-2007, 03:36 PM
Ninety Nine, glad you enjoyed the show....

The projector was a Sony VPL-VW50 SXRD 1080p. The Playback was directly from FCP 6 on a MacPro on a timeline with a version of the movie at 1080p ProRes 422. The 5.1 surround was from the AJA Kona 3 card taking the AES outs and converting them D-A and taking the 6 inputs into a mixing board and then sending them to the speakers in the room.

Eirik Tyrihjel
06-21-2007, 03:43 PM
I forgot to ask. Sorry.

Hanging on the ceiling it looked, to me, a lot like this one:

http://www.projectorpeople.com/projectors/projdtls.aspitemid=20032&itmname=BenQ+PE7700

The benq 7700 is a 720p projector (I got one), but maybe the W9000 or the W10000 from Benq both are 1080p and looks quite similar (except the lens is centered, on the 7700 itīs on the side) so my guess is it was either the w9000 or the W10000, (but I wasnīt there)


EDIT: Nevermind, Briferg cleared it up....

Kip Hewitt
06-21-2007, 03:57 PM
Ninety Nine, glad you enjoyed the show....

The projector was a Sony VPL-VW50 SXRD 1080p. The Playback was directly from FCP 6 on a MacPro on a timeline with a version of the movie at 1080p ProRes 422. The 5.1 surround was from the AJA Kona 3 card taking the AES outs and converting them D-A and taking the 6 inputs into a mixing board and then sending them to the speakers in the room.

Okay, maybe not entirely Best Buy.

And thanks, Brian, the show was perfect.

dvpixl
06-21-2007, 05:32 PM
I saw the thing myself when they were here in NY and it was utterly amazing. I forgot for those 15 minutes or so that I was in an APPLE event.




That heavy, tangible feeling, is something that I never would have expected and certainly have never experienced before from... you know, a camera. But now that it's inside me it feels like my life is changing.


The RED camera will be a test for me and alot of people in that it will test our patience and skills in the disciplines of filmmaking, if we were so spoiled by the ease of our little digital cams. It forces me to respect the seasoned veterans and makes me wish that I had formal training or paid attention at some point in time. It's becoming more important now, I think, to know what you are doing and not just be satisfied with what looks okay on your monitor. I'm scared. and I dont even have a reservation.

Fergus Meiklejohn
06-22-2007, 01:44 AM
"Last night TED came round and we watched Peter Jackson's RED footage on some state of the art system".. grumble.. then we all drank Shiraz and went surfing... grumble.. goddamm Californians grumble...

Last night we all gathered in Godalming, Surrey, England to watch 15 seconds of David Lean's short movie recorded onto a 78" and presented on an old 12" valve set... The movie was mute but old johnny boy accompanied it on the piano. Afterwards we drank real ale, danced the morris dance, and sang God Save the Queen :cold:

Roll on IBC Amsterdam:clown2:

Milan Nikolic
06-22-2007, 02:26 AM
Second in envy to you Californians.

Ernesto Salvador
06-22-2007, 08:33 AM
Second in envy to you Californians.

Yeah me too, I went to film school in hollywood, then came back to Ecuador, I know Iīll never get to see Crossing the line if not for the internet. HOW I MISS L.A.

Jarred Land
06-22-2007, 08:40 AM
you guys gotta goto apple.com and look up the Final Cut road show.. Teds going all over the place showing this demo so it might be a good opportunity to see a little Red.

Fergus Meiklejohn
06-22-2007, 09:29 AM
Aw man, apple are only touring the ol' US of A..:matrix:

Brice Ansel
06-22-2007, 10:00 AM
Fergus U still have the option of Amsterdam in september.
Salut

Jesse Wendel
06-22-2007, 01:02 PM
you guys gotta goto apple.com and look up the Final Cut road show.. Teds going all over the place showing this demo so it might be a good opportunity to see a little Red.

Jarred -- the Final Cut Tour (http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/tour/) currently is showing only three cities. Are there more which they don't have listed?

I keep waiting for them to put Seattle up. The diagram shows Seattle, but unless Ted did Seattle right out the gate and I didn't see the thread (totally possible) in say, the first week it was up -- in which case, grrrr -- then nada. No Seattle. Because I've checked every couple of days since I first noticed the thread.

I guess my question is, is Ted only hitting the three cities showing on the Apple site, or are there others Apple isn't showing? Like say, Seattle? *smiles*

Jesse Wendel

Tony Lorentzen
06-22-2007, 02:22 PM
you guys gotta goto apple.com and look up the Final Cut road show.. Teds going all over the place showing this demo so it might be a good opportunity to see a little Red.

Yeah - in the US only. They showed a picture of the RED camera when I was at the show here in denmark, but no movie :-(

Gregory Leno
06-22-2007, 02:23 PM
Ted was in Seattle on May 22 with the FinalCut Tour. They played to a pretty large audience.

~ G

Tony Lorentzen
06-26-2007, 04:19 AM
One question - will you be showing "Crossing the Line" on this year's IBC in Amsterdam?

Brice Ansel
06-26-2007, 08:31 AM
I asked the same question in another thread but I didn't get a propre answer.
Hope they will, Europe need to see!

Corrado Silveri
06-26-2007, 09:05 AM
I was thinking that they will show Crossing the line for sure...
Till 2 minutes ago.