redrock mattebox

[Zakaree Sandberg]

just saw the new production model of the redrock mattebox today at cinegear expo.. its siiiiiiiccccckkkkkkk. really well done.. like an arri!!..
it was black too:) unlike the NAB demo version. It now has a swing away box and well done rotating filter trays. and its not flimsy!
still 500 bucks!!! also tried out the redrock followfocus.. the new and improved one since the last time i tried it out.. honestly guys.. its realllly good. especially for the price!!!. im amped

[jaadgy akanni]

Thanks for the report Zakaree. I have my mind set on both that Mattebox and the improved FF. Good thing I have a reservation on the MB. If this mattebox proves to be the right stuff for RED users, then Curt's gonna have to reconsider that $1000+ price point on his.

[PaulClements]

Yeah thanks for the update Zakaree. Some accessories such as a mattebox still comes under budgetary consideration for me. There are some things you can scrimp on slightly to begin with and others which you simply cannot. If their MB turns out to be functional and useful for $500 then I'd probably be happy to use it, if only for a stop gap till I can upgrade to a top of the line Chrosziel or ARRI in the future.

It'll be interesting to see how Curt's stands up though, everyone has high expectations and if it as good or possibly better than a Chrosziel or ARRI I'll have no qualms about pitching up $1000 for that instead.

At the end of the day, it's nice to know there are other more affordable options coming onto the market other than having to take the 2nd hand option, and with a few thousand red one owners in the pipeline many of these will have success no doubt.

[Jaime Vallés]

Very nice. Their MB and FF are probably the ones I'll use at first. Thanks for the report!

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Sounds interesting... The bits I've seen of the RR MB (the white one they were showing pre-NAB) made me think it's a complete piece of junk. Some of the reviews I saw of prototypes were less than flattering. So hopefully it has been much improved. I keep hearing/reading that their new FF is way better. But having owned their FF a while back, I still feel burned and I'm not sure what to think just yet. I have reservations for both the MB and FF units just in case they turn out to be worth-while, but I'm rather skeptical. I'm also hoping that Curt's MB turns out as good as the MB20 (or better!). I'll gladly pay twice as much as a RedRock if I can get a product that's at least twice as good.

[Clayton Harper]

My money is on Curt Von B. Red Rock has always had crap build quality and even though you are saying its sick, I highly doubt it. Zak, have you worked with professional quality matteboxes such as an Arri or a Chrosziel? They are basically bulletproof. Based on the finish quality of the Red motor and the Mirius I would easily write a check to CVB for $2000 for the right materials and features.

[Zakaree Sandberg]

Red Rock has always had crap build quality and even though you are saying its sick, I highly doubt it. Zak, have you worked with professional quality matteboxes such as an Arri or a Chrosziel? They are basically bulletproof.

Yes I have worked with both. I like arri better.. but seeing as how i do not plan to shoot any semi or fully automatic weapons at my mattebox, I think ill be fine with the redrock!

The version at NAB sucked! so please dont think im talkn about the same version. This has an arri mb style. My only iffyness goes to the french flag which was a cheap plastic... but they told me the final version would be aluminum.

this is what a mattebox does for me...
I can use my filters.. and I can block out any stray sun rays!

I dont need an ARRI or Chorsziel name to prove anything. as long as its not a thin plastic toy ill be happy.. and for 500 bucks you can bet I will get my redrock MB. no need to spend more than I should have too imho

[Jeff Kilgroe]

I'm still skeptical... Once bitten (last year's FF), twice shy.

But if it's not the same MB they were showing at NAB and the weeks before, then they're already heading in a better direction.

[Dan Blanchett]

Speaking of Curt, he's been radio silent for a while. Hopefully we'll get an update in the near future. :umm:

[Brian Valente]

Hi Everyone

A brief note before we post up some specifics and pictures on the microMattebox. The most important piece of news for Red users is that post-NAB, we decided to redesign the mattebox as a completely cinema-capable matte box. Among the new features:
- supports up to 156mm lens diameter (which means Red lenses)
- supports filter stages from 4x4" up to 5x6" and the typical sizes inbetween
- all stages rotate, and do so independently
- a flatter shade for wide angle lenses
- swing away arm and rod mounted

the base configuration target price is still $500 which includes three filter stages.

lordnumberzero, I have noticed several of your posts are rather disparaging of Redrock. I would sure appreciate it if you dropped me a line brian@redrockmicro.com so I can better understand your specific concerns. Build quality has always been something that people have pointed out about Redrock products, so I don't know if you received something that was an early build, a bad unit, etc. but I would like to know more.

Cheers

Brian

[Alexander Nikishin]

I'm still skeptical... Once bitten (last year's FF), twice shy.

But if it's not the same MB they were showing at NAB and the weeks before, then they're already heading in a better direction.

The new Red Rock mattebox seems to literally be a reverse engineered MB20.

The finished product was said to come in a black aluminum finish with 4x4 / 4x5 / 5x6 swappable, stackable and rotating trays; meaning you can have 3-4 fully rotating 5x6 trays if needed.

The design seemed very solid and on point. I'd take the Red Rock over a way over priced Chrosziel any day.

[wshultz]

So when are they available already! Let's see some pics.

[Jaime Vallés]

Thanks for the update, Brian. Sounds really good. I look forward to checking one out in person sometime.

[Bruce Allen]

I was at Cinegear too today, met the folks - very nice people! They also had a great little prototype rig involving a HV20 mounted to something that looks kinda like the Red cage. If I hadn't just put together something like that the hard way myself I would have offered them money for it on the spot ;) BTW are you guys partnering with Zacuto now? I saw a very nice rig setup using your M2 at their booth.

My trusted DP back in South Africa described the Chrosziel as "pretty dodgy and plastic looking but does the job", haha. If the Redrock fits into that category, we are good. For a lot less money, yaay. Let's face it, the improvements they've made to it are really impressive.

Otherwise, it looks like we have an order of things with each being the best in their categories:
$500 - Redrock
$? - CVB's mystery one (he stated it would be under Arri price), coming out later in the year though
$3200+ (plus extras) - Vocas (I checked it out at Cinegear - it was very nice and lightweight and had things like eyebrows, anti-reflection stage, etc)
$4000+ - Arri MB20 (nice but heavier), Arri MB14 (nice big filter sizes but heavier still)

I am not sure about Petroff and Cavision... anyone think I have written of Chrosziel too quickly? It's just that for the price I might as well get the Arri or Petroff.

Brian, I forgot to ask, what is the largest square filter size you can take now? 5.65 x 5.65? And round filter?

This is an average setup that I am looking at:

1. rotating circular pola (round filter?)
2. 4x5.6 schneider varicon
3. 5.6x5.6 grad (needs to be able to move up and down

By the way, how much do you predict your matte box to weigh?

Cheers

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

[Brian Valente]

Hi Bruce

Nice to meet you as well. Zacuto was already selling rigs around our M2 adapter, and they wanted to offer it as part of their setup. Same adapter.

Again just to be clear, the microMattebox is primarily machined aluminum. It's a stackable filter stage design (from 1 to as many stages as practical) with the largest filter being 5"x6". We will also offer filter stages for round filters as well (though that will come later).

I can't say on weight just as yet.

And finally on pics, dang guys :) All we ask is a few hours of sleep and some time to snap a photo or two. It will be there soon


Cheers

Brian

[Bruce Allen]

Again just to be clear, the microMattebox is primarily machined aluminum.

Haha, okay, no more comparisons to plasticy Chrosziels then.



It's a stackable filter stage design (from 1 to as many stages as practical) with the largest filter being 5"x6".


Gotcha. Can you move those filters up and down? I am just thinking about a grad filter... where I might want to adjust its vertical position.

As far as pics go, I snapped one of your prototype and sent it on to Mike and Matt (www.hdforindies.com and www.freshdv.com). Freshdv just tested a bunch of your stuff, didn't they? Did you send them your matte box?

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

[Brian Valente]

Yep -the filters can be moved vertically and all stages rotate, so you can position that grad where it needs to be.

The original proto (with the proto white plastics) is pretty much irrelevant now. When you see the new pics you'll see

the FresHDV guys did do a recent ff shootout including redrock, but not the microMB

Cheers

Brian

[Zakaree Sandberg]

hey brian.. was that you i was talkn too the other day? im the younger guy (24). i was talkn to you about the mattebox and the little hv20 rig. i said that i would definatly be putting your MB on my red...
anyways.. thanks for the hat!

[Bruce Allen]

Zakaree, you are 24 and own a Red? Good grief! How on earth do you afford it? When I was 24 I didn't even have a credit card.

Next time, we both need to ambush Brian together... I wonder how many other Reduser.net people were at CineGear? I met Ketch there, great chap.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

[Alexander Nikishin]

Next time, we both need to ambush Brian together... [/url]

Brian's quite the Spartan, I think we may need to triple team him in order to get 'em down!

BTW, is anyone attending the lighting workshop at Mole Richardson today?

[Sam Druckerman]

I was there and I have to say, the new/re design RR MB is a significant improvement from they one the had on display at NAB.

It has the best "bang for the buck" vibe..... that I've seen in a MB.... So far.

But, I think Curt is cooking up something extra special.

Sorry I didn't get to meet more Redusers though.

[Bruce Allen]

Brian's quite the Spartan, I think we may need to triple team him in order to get 'em down!

BTW, is anyone attending the lighting workshop at Mole Richardson today?

No, would love to be there but very busy :( next year I am there though.

Okay, next event near LA, we'll all coordinate.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

[Alexander Nikishin]

Okay, next event near LA, we'll all coordinate.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

Definitely.

[PaulClements]

Thanks for chiming in here Brian, sounds like the MB is coming along a treat. I look forward to the pics and complete specs sometime in the future.

It's always good when manufacturers take the time out to discuss their products so openly. Really appreciate it.

[jaadgy akanni]

For those of us who are anxious to see the RRMB prototype, someone posted the following images on the RedRockmicro forum. They're pics from Cinegear, the last of which is of the MB prototype w/swingaway. It looks mighty good to me. Enjoy:biggrin:
http://web.mac.com/mikedcurtis/iWeb/HD4NDs_Image_Galleries/CineGear2007.html

[PaulClements]

For those of us who are anxious to see the RRMB prototype, someone posted the following images on the RedRockmicro forum. They're pics from Cinegear, the last of which is of the MB prototype w/swingaway. It looks mighty good to me. Enjoy:biggrin:
http://web.mac.com/mikedcurtis/iWeb/HD4NDs_Image_Galleries/CineGear2007.html

Thanks for that, the mattebox is looking nice. Can't wait for more images. For $500 it's looking like one hell of a bargain compaired to similar models.

[donatello b]

i looked at the new prototype MB and thought it is moving along very good thru development ( saw it at NAB) ...

i played with the FF and it works .. a great improvement over last years cinegear ...
for many it comes down to $$$ ... for 2500+ you can get X FF ( or MB) and for under 1000 you can get Y FF ( or MB) ... either one will do the job

i'm keeping my eye on both these products ...

[Bruce Allen]

For those of us who are anxious to see the RRMB prototype, someone posted the following images on the RedRockmicro forum. They're pics from Cinegear, the last of which is of the MB prototype w/swingaway. It looks mighty good to me. Enjoy:biggrin:
http://web.mac.com/mikedcurtis/iWeb/HD4NDs_Image_Galleries/CineGear2007.html

That someone was me! Haha! It goes with the report I wrote.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

[PaulClements]

Cheers Bruce, is that the only pic you got or do you have more?

[Brian Valente]

Folks- here are some more details just posted to our forums:

http://redrockmicro.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3774

[Bruce Allen]

Cheers Bruce, is that the only pic you got or do you have more?

I didn't want to take too many pics - Brian explained to me that since everything was prototyping material, it was all quite a bit thicker than the final material. I thought that I'd better keep it to only one photo running around the internet that gives a false impression of thickness ;) Also, being prototyping material, the texture wasn't super cool-looking.

One thing I forgot to ask is if this one will work okay with those damn Nikons that extend a little bit as they focus. It looks like there is a possibility it will. Brian?

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

[Finner]

That someone was me! Haha! It goes with the report I wrote.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

Hey Bruce nice pics. The new RR matte box looks quite nice. I just finished shooting with the russian arm (the camera car pic with the porshe) yesterday. Except the one I got had the russian arm mounted on a mercedes ML55 and not the porshe. It is a great piece of equipment.

[PaulClements]

Thanks Brian

[Bruce Allen]

Hey Bruce nice pics. The new RR matte box looks quite nice. I just finished shooting with the russian arm (the camera car pic with the porshe) yesterday. Except the one I got had the russian arm mounted on a mercedes ML55 and not the porshe. It is a great piece of equipment.

Awesome! Yes, no Porsche needed - Mercedes would be fine ;) They had one behind the Porsche. Glad to know that it is as impressive in use as it is in demonstration, Finner! You'll have to send us some pics - the coolest thing I've ever used on a vfx supervising job has been a Technocrane. Running around with that Russian arm on a car must have taken that to a whole new level of fun, you lucky chap!

Ah yes. Sad I didn't get any photos of the TechnoDolly in action (saw it last year, but this year, the power was cut near the end of the show).

Sorry, back on topic: Brian, so your system doesn't do 5.65x5.65 but does 5x6 right? So, your recommendation for a grad would be a 5x6 - hmm, which way round? Vertical or horizontal? You said the RedRock shifts vertically. For the stuff I do, I could get away with either, I think.

Cheers

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

[Zakaree Sandberg]

yah bruce... im young, but ive been lucky enough to have amazing credit and money saved up.

[Bruce Allen]

yah bruce... im young, but ive been lucky enough to have amazing credit and money saved up.

Haha, yes, the money you saved in Dollars probably went further in LA than South African Rands ;) A proper Red camera package costs more than a decent-sized house back home! Hence the interest in the RedRock matte box - it's priced at a level people other than Americans and Europeans can afford. Although to be honest, in SA my friends mostly just rent. In America it seems like more of a "who's got the gear gets the jobs" thing? Also, you guys seem to have a lot of gear that you don't lend out? I am constantly amazed at the number of people with PD150s, DVX100s, etc sitting in their apartments here that are in pristine condition, practically unused. As far as I'm concerned, a video camera only has 5 years before it is totally out of date, so you might as well lend it out and get a few scratches on it - by the time it's out of date, it should be falling apart but with lots of stories to tell, haha. Plus all the guys you lent the camera to will remember you when they buy the next model. Though I can't imagine your Red sitting unused!

Anyway, I can survive on lesser toys and talent (uh, hopefully talent, I mean), but then I'm a director, not a DP. It'll be interesting to see what happens to "3rd world cinema" vs American indies with the Red. The Americans will have the advantage of tons more money, plus far greater numbers of Reds. But then the 3rd world people will have a chance at making films using rented Reds that were simply not possible to do before. It'll be interesting to see who benefits more. Probably it'll just be great for both.

Now, Red or CVB or RedRock, how about making an indie TechnoDolly?

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

[Jeff Kilgroe]

OK, after the pic (thanks, Bruce) I'm a lot more interested. I'm still betting on Curt to come through with something wonderful, but I'm thinking for $500 the RedRock might just be that special bargain a lot of people are looking for.

[PaulClements]

OK, after the pic (thanks, Bruce) I'm a lot more interested. I'm still betting on Curt to come through with something wonderful, but I'm thinking for $500 the RedRock might just be that special bargain a lot of people are looking for.

At RedRock's price I can certainly imagine a great many people buying one simply as backup.

[Jonathan L. Bowen]

I'm glad in a way I don't get my RED for a while after the earlier reservations, because I'd like to see what people end up using for matte boxes and see if I can get away with something more like $1,000 rather than $3,000+.

[Zakaree Sandberg]

Im not glad i dont get my red for while just for mattebox choice sake.. im glad im not getting it for a while because i want full feature capabilities and all the bugs fixed by the time i get mine in dec

[Corrado Silveri]

Curt!
It's your time. Say something... (and show us some good reasons to refrain our credit cards).

Cheers,
Elcurado

[Alexander Nikishin]

The RR MB is quite promising. I can't see much else to add to it aside from a quicker shipping date. :sarcasm:

[Jonathan L. Bowen]

Im not glad i dont get my red for while just for mattebox choice sake.. im glad im not getting it for a while because i want full feature capabilities and all the bugs fixed by the time i get mine in dec

I agree with that, too.

[Matthew Rogers]

The RR MB is quite promising. I can't see much else to add to it aside from a quicker shipping date. :sarcasm:

I must have missed it somewhere...When are they planning on shipping it?


Matthew

[Zakaree Sandberg]

I must have missed it somewhere...When are they planning on shipping it?


they told me end of august.. and there will be plenty to go right out the door

[Brian Valente]

Hi all

It's still targeted for late summer - I am checking on the filter size

Brian

[Brian Valente]

Update on filters:

the microMB supports up to 6"x6" filters, so the 5.65" square filters will work fine


Brian

[Bruce Allen]

Update on filters:

the microMB supports up to 6"x6" filters, so the 5.65" square filters will work fine

Brian

Sweeeeet.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

[PaulClements]

Brian will you be offering a choice of filter holders when people purchase the MB or will you use a universal filter holder?

[Brian Valente]

Choice of filter holders - there will be additional filter stages in the future as well, such as to support round filters.


Brian

[Zakaree Sandberg]

what do most people plan on using filter wise?
I assume since there is so much to do in post now days that it might be best to just shoot clean and add later.. I can only see myself using a ND and or polarizing filter.. maybe graduals if i realllly wanna stick with a certain look

[Matthew Rogers]

what do most people plan on using filter wise?
I assume since there is so much to do in post now days that it might be best to just shoot clean and add later.. I can only see myself using a ND and or polarizing filter.. maybe graduals if i realllly wanna stick with a certain look

ND and Pol are a must. I am thinking ND grad for some outdoor work when the sky would be overexposed due to my subject being underexposed. I'm not really a fan of the Promists or other stylized filters. I prefer to do such things in post really.

Matthew

[Brian Valente]

As promised here are a few more pics (more on the way). Please note the inconsistencies in the materials are from the prototype process. The final product will be smooth and sleek. You can see the rotating stages and swing-away features.


http://www.redrockmicro.com/assets/images/product/microMB_logo.jpg

http://www.redrockmicro.com/assets/images/product/microMB_back.jpg

[Matthew Rogers]

As promised here are a few more pics (more on the way). Please note the inconsistencies in the materials are from the prototype process. The final product will be smooth and sleek. You can see the rotating stages and swing-away features.

That's all metal correct? (screw plastic, heavy means quality, if it does not work, you can hit them over the head with it;))

Matthew

[Paul Hazlett]

Hi Brian,

any news about the remote follow focus?

[Zakaree Sandberg]

That's all metal correct? (screw plastic, heavy means quality, if it does not work, you can hit them over the head with it;))

Matthew

abs hard plastic..aluminum french flag.. correct me if im wrong...
Im pretty sure its aluminum with abs plastic coating tho..

[Brian Valente]

aluminum in the critical parts. ABS for the rest.

[Bruce Allen]

what do most people plan on using filter wise?
I assume since there is so much to do in post now days that it might be best to just shoot clean and add later.. I can only see myself using a ND and or polarizing filter.. maybe graduals if i realllly wanna stick with a certain look

ND + maybe colored grads (5.65x5.65) ND (4x5.65), circular polarizer (round), digicon (4x5.65), glimmerglass (EDIT: 4x5.65). Not all at once ;)

...and you guys know I'm a DI / "do-it-in-post" nut.

Anyone think I should go up to 5x6 / 6x6 size now that RedRock supports it?

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

[Zakaree Sandberg]

theres one filter I just saw recently that softens really well.. anyone know what im talkn bout.. it would be good for the RED if you want that cooke feel while shooting through nikon glass..

[Bruce Allen]

theres one filter I just saw recently that softens really well.. anyone know what im talkn bout.. it would be good for the RED if you want that cooke feel while shooting through nikon glass..

Tiffen: Glimmerglass / ProMist / Low Contrast / UltraCon?
Schneider: Digicon (almost no softening, only latitude) / LowCon?

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

[chuck colburn]

Vaseline, hairnets, pantyhose, conkin plastic filters that have been left in the sun?

[Alexander Nikishin]

what do most people plan on using filter wise?
I assume since there is so much to do in post now days that it might be best to just shoot clean and add later.. I can only see myself using a ND and or polarizing filter.. maybe graduals if i realllly wanna stick with a certain look

NDs, Grads and polarizers are a must.

Maybe split diopters for those trick dual plane focus shots.

As far as a softening filter goes, I doubt you'd need one with Nikkors. I'm guessing that the sharpness of a Nikkor would be equal to if not softer than a Cooke, which is generally considered a softer lens.

Now if you're shooting with some Zeiss Master primes, then a Formatt HD Soft filter would be a good idea. Dean Semler used one in Apocalypto apparently.

[Zakaree Sandberg]

i think glimmerglass is what im thinking of

[Alexander Nikishin]

Anyone think I should go up to 5x6 / 6x6 size now that RedRock supports it?

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

If you're going to be shooting on older zooms such as the Cooke 20-100 or larger diameter lens (Panavision Primos and the like) then a safe bet would be buying 5x6 / 6x6 filters.

Personally, I won't be buying anything smaller than 5x6.

[Bruce Allen]

If you're going to be shooting on older zooms such as the Cooke 20-100 or larger diameter lens (Panavision Primos and the like) then a safe bet would be buying 5x6 / 6x6 filters.

Personally, I won't be buying anything smaller than 5x6.

Haha, how did you know I was eyeing that old Cooke SuperTechno for use with my HV20 / 35mm adapter / RedRock mattebox combination ;)

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

[Alexander Nikishin]

Haha, how did you know I was eyeing that old Cooke SuperTechno for use with my HV20 / 35mm adapter / RedRock mattebox combination ;)

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

That'd be a sight to see!

Brian, can you post a pic of the HV20 rig with a large PL lens? :whistling:

[Brian Valente]

annnd one more

http://www.redrockmicro.com/assets/images/product/MicroMB_front_02.jpg

[Alexander Nikishin]

Beautiful and awesome.

[PaulClements]

Looks great Brian, keep us updated as often as possible about the MB.

[Ben Goldenberg]

Hey guys, I am sort of a noobie, but I just want to say, the redrock is exactly in line with the whole idea of red in general. Matt boxes are pieces of metal. You guys who work on "real" films are too rich to realize how stupid it is too pay 3 grand for a floppy piece of metal. My cell phone was like 200 bucks and about 100 million dollars of R and D went into it's design...if you think the guys at chrozial spent more then 10,000 dollars I would be surprised. The beauty of red is that it is providing us little guys with superior quality images, something which has only been kept from us by the bigger corporations, rather than technology!!! good for redrock, good for red, good for me...wow I just noticed that anything film related with red in the title is wicked cool!!!!

[chuck colburn]

You ever done any R&D? 10k goes away in a heartbeat.

[Matthew Rogers]

Hey guys, I am sort of a noobie, but I just want to say, the redrock is exactly in line with the whole idea of red in general. Matt boxes are pieces of metal. You guys who work on "real" films are too rich to realize how stupid it is too pay 3 grand for a floppy piece of metal. My cell phone was like 200 bucks and about 100 million dollars of R and D went into it's design...if you think the guys at chrozial spent more then 10,000 dollars I would be surprised. The beauty of red is that it is providing us little guys with superior quality images, something which has only been kept from us by the bigger corporations, rather than technology!!! good for redrock, good for red, good for me...wow I just noticed that anything film related with red in the title is wicked cool!!!!

A couple of things...you think matteboxes are pretty simple designs hun? Sure, the clip on mattebox is fairly simple. However, a 3 stage mattebox is a complex tool. There's also the quality vs technology vs money factor. Let's face it, Arri makes solid matteboxes that last forever with very little technology change. For probably the next ten years, there are going to be very little change in how they build them (probably the only thing they WOULD change wold be what they are built out of). The market for matteboxes is not that big. It's the same reason I can get $110 an hour for editing, but other people can only get $6.50 an hour flipping burgers...there's not as much of a demand and it's very specialized.

Yeah, film gear seems overpriced...but, I look at things like the RED and realize that I could make $500,000-$1mil over the next 5 years, so does $3k seem so unreasonable?

Matthew

[CVB]

I can say that I once spent $10K on a prototype of a simple ipod accessory... CNC'ing parts adds up. It definitly helps if you don't have to pay the engineer (myself).

[Sanjin Jukic]

"...here's a short film shot by Amilcar Machado with the Sony Z1 and Redrock M2,who writes:

'I live in Buenos Aires, Argentina. I´ve studied 3 years of International Relations and I got my middle degree. I wanted to have a studies year off, so I went to the USA for 1 year. I worked as a snowboard instructor, then I stayed in San Diego (I love surfing and California). When I got back, I decided that filmmaking was what I really wanted, so I started studying in Eliseo Subiela´s Institute. I´m also formed in theatre acting, I´ve studied since I was 15. Also, I worked on TV here. But what I really like, is cinematography. [Regarding Quiroga] we used 2 Sony Z1 cameras. I was going to choose one JVC GY-HD111E, but I prefered to use 2 cameras instead. We shot in a small town in Buenos Aires called Villa Ruiz. It took 3 days to shoot everything, and it was pretty hard because we were at the sun´s will most of the time. We had Nikon lenses (35mm f/1.8, 50mm f/1.8, 100mm f/2.8, and a 135mm f/2.8).'

Enjoy!

Watch the movie >> LINK >>
(http://www.redrockmicro.com/footage/Z1U/quiroga.mov)

Bravo Brian.

RedRock Micro rocks again.

[Martin Ludwig]

can anyone provide a weblink to redrock ?

[Brian Valente]

"...here's a short film shot by Amilcar Machado with the Sony Z1 and Redrock M2,who writes:

'I live in Buenos Aires, Argentina. I´ve studied 3 years of International Relations and I got my middle degree. I wanted to have a studies year off, so I went to the USA for 1 year. I worked as a snowboard instructor, then I stayed in San Diego (I love surfing and California). When I got back, I decided that filmmaking was what I really wanted, so I started studying in Eliseo Subiela´s Institute. I´m also formed in theatre acting, I´ve studied since I was 15. Also, I worked on TV here. But what I really like, is cinematography. [Regarding Quiroga] we used 2 Sony Z1 cameras. I was going to choose one JVC GY-HD111E, but I prefered to use 2 cameras instead. We shot in a small town in Buenos Aires called Villa Ruiz. It took 3 days to shoot everything, and it was pretty hard because we were at the sun´s will most of the time. We had Nikon lenses (35mm f/1.8, 50mm f/1.8, 100mm f/2.8, and a 135mm f/2.8).'

Enjoy!

Watch the movie >> LINK >>
(http://www.redrockmicro.com/footage/Z1U/quiroga.mov)

Bravo Brian.

RedRock Micro rocks again.


Yeah, that's a pretty great story, huh? Amilcar deserves all the credit. :)


Brian

[albert rudnicki]

Yes I have worked with both. I like arri better.. but seeing as how i do not plan to shoot any semi or fully automatic weapons at my mattebox, I think ill be fine with the redrock!

The version at NAB sucked! so please dont think im talkn about the same version. This has an arri mb style. My only iffyness goes to the french flag which was a cheap plastic... but they told me the final version would be aluminum.

this is what a mattebox does for me...
I can use my filters.. and I can block out any stray sun rays!

I dont need an ARRI or Chorsziel name to prove anything. as long as its not a thin plastic toy ill be happy.. and for 500 bucks you can bet I will get my redrock MB. no need to spend more than I should have too imho


Well said Zakaree

[Brian Valente]

This has an arri mb style. My only iffyness goes to the french flag which was a cheap plastic... but they told me the final version would be aluminum.

Indeed it will not be plastic - and also we've improved the filter stages to be all metal as well.

[roryhinds]

Hi Brian

Do you have a ETA on shipping of the RRMB?

[IAN SUN]

Yeah Brian, cameras are shipping!

You too Curt, any updates?

[Brandon Fraley]

yeah, the people need to know :)