my bloody valentine 3d blu-ray playback??

[Sven Seynaeve]

Hello,

I'd like to being capable of watching 3d blu-rays at home. I just got a vw-10 from Sony, but like to know if there's any projection system capable of delivering full hd in stereoscopy in 1 system, or would it work if I had a second vw-10. However , would i still be able to play it back from a laptop like the acer aspire 8930g, or what else would i need to have stereo..
would i need a different screen aswell???

[M Most]

Hello,

I'd like to being capable of watching 3d blu-rays at home. I just got a vw-10 from Sony, but like to know if there's any projection system capable of delivering full hd in stereoscopy in 1 system, or would it work if I had a second vw-10. However , would i still be able to play it back from a laptop like the acer aspire 8930g, or what else would i need to have stereo..
would i need a different screen aswell???

The only current "3D Blu Ray" format is anaglyph, which plays on any screen.

[A. Bastaki]

i saw it on my bravia screen. it sucked.

anaglyph.. sucks ass.

[Darren Orange]

Most DLP TV's today come 3D ready not anaglyph 3D. Still won't help if the movie is not done that way on the Blu-ray.

[A. Bastaki]

anaglyph should be banned. its such a scam.

[M Most]

i saw it on my bravia screen. it sucked.

anaglyph.. sucks ass.

I didn't say it was good. I said it was the only format currently available. There's either anaglyph or standard 2D images. There isn't any other choice at the moment.

[Helge Løken]

I agree that the end-user-experience with anaglyph is not great at all. Washed out colors and a strain to watch for a long period of time. However, for those of us producing stereo 3d and trying to learn from the experts, anaglyph is a great way to analyze the 3d of a movie - watch it without glasses and you can easily see how the depth is distributed throughout a shot/scene/movie.

[Noah Kadner]

Yeah I don't know of any home system that's been released yet that allows for polarized 3D, which is the far superior system over anaglyph.

Noah

[cinepost35]

Saw a demo of Next3d.com (very very cool )at GDC a month ago and they said there software supports 3D full 1080p playback on polarized displays including DLP and pageflipping. DLP is what I saw it on outside the Microsoft Party at the W hotel.

[M Most]

Yeah I don't know of any home system that's been released yet that allows for polarized 3D, which is the far superior system over anaglyph.


There are a number of display systems, but no current delivery system other than the aforementioned anaglyph. Display systems include polarized (which, unfortunately, usually requires losing half the resolution) and shuttered (which requires a higher refresh rate). There are also autostereoscopic displays, which require no glasses but have a very restricted viewing angle to properly receive the 3D effect. Ultimately, there will likely be one or perhaps two agreed upon standards, because there is a lot of momentum to get 3D in consumer's homes right now.

[June]

Has anyone tried Vuzix AV920 iWear to view S3D from a BluRay player. I have used it with a DVD player and iMax content, also with iPhone it works, but typically uses a composite video out which may not be possible on BluRay.
I don't have one yet, but if this will work I will buy a BluRay player tomorrow!

[Iannis Holwech]

First of all; There is no 3D content on BD yet.

Panasonic will/is working on a 3D BD system, but the Blu-ray Disc Association will be moving slow on this until the SMTE spesifications for 3D in cinema and in home displays are finalised.
Preliminary report from SMTE is max framerate of 120fps (60fps for each eye).

Nobody knows wether the new BD 3D specs will require a new BD player or wether they will manage with a breakout box. But as BD only can play 24fps and will reqiure at least 48fps for the first coming years of 3D, this is doubtfull.
No reason to buy a BD player now before the BD 3D specs are known if 3D is the only reason to buy a BD player.
(you will also need minimum a 120Hz TV)


The DVD Forum has approved of the SENSIO® 3D system (http://www.sensio.tv/en/default.3d) for 3D on DVD, (will also be used by SKY in their 3D Live tests), so DVD is probably where we will see modern 3D releases first.
List of SENSIO® 3D movies. (http://www.sensio.tv/en/home_theater/films_3d/default.3d)




Other "snippets" from the coming SMTE movie standard;

"The SMPTE has recently published a new standard called "Additional Frame Rates for D-Cinema"".

"The standard gives digital cinema projection speeds of 25, 30, 50 and 60fps as possible additional projection frame rates inside the DC28 / 21DC framework (JPEG 2000), in addition to the speeds of 24fps and 48fps that were already in the standard".

"Two server manufacturers have already implemented the standard. A big number of digital cinemas (if not yet the majority) are now capable of showing digital films at 6 different speeds: 24, 25, 30, 48, 50, and 60fps".

Quote:60fps: allows for movies to be made and projected with high temporal resolution, while still keeping a good compatibility with after market media like Blu-Ray and DVD disks. Movies shot and projected at 60fps will be virtually free of stroboscopic motion artefacts and will allow new developments in cinematographic language...

Quote:The 60 fps speed will hopefully move our limits and frontiers in the future and allow us to create new cinematographic experiences and stronger, richer and original storytelling

[Kyle Spicer]

There is 3D on BD, maybe just not studio released. 3ality at NAB had a demo of their 3D footage playing off a playstation3 on a consumer LCD TV. The BD has to be authored correctly for it to work on the TV. Their BD was authored with left and right eye split vertically on the screen. The TV would then resample both eyes into a interlaced pattern, with the first line being left eye and the next line right eye (rinse and repeat). This was by far one of the best 3D demos I saw (on a consumer / Prosumer TV).

[M Most]

There is 3D on BD, maybe just not studio released. 3ality at NAB had a demo of their 3D footage playing off a playstation3 on a consumer LCD TV. The BD has to be authored correctly for it to work on the TV. Their BD was authored with left and right eye split vertically on the screen. The TV would then resample both eyes into a interlaced pattern, with the first line being left eye and the next line right eye (rinse and repeat). This was by far one of the best 3D demos I saw (on a consumer / Prosumer TV).

There are decoders for side by side built into a number of recent 3D monitors that do exactly what you describe. For one offs, this can and does work. But at this point in time there is no current agreed upon delivery format for commercial releases.

[Kory Gregersen]

I'm sure a feasible solution is in the works,... Wait for it! They have to juice the anaglyph market to sell more discs before they cash in on the real deal. BTW it was sweet in reald!