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Shawn Nelson
07-14-2007, 03:22 PM
Jannerd: Does it rhyme with Ran-Nerd or Rah-Nard?
NAB: Rhymes with Stab or said En-Nay-Bee?
Chrosziel: Crow-zel or Craw-zel?
Arri: Awr-Ree or Air-ree?
Gavin Greenwalt
07-14-2007, 03:37 PM
Jăn'ûrd
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=20344&postcount=4
PaulClements
07-14-2007, 03:56 PM
I've always said chrosziel as crot-zee-ell, Arri I'd say A-Ree, NAB as in Stab (personally, but either go). Jannerd - spelt with two a's (Jannard) pronunciation = jan (as in january) and eard (as in heard).
Could be wrong on any of them though, guess it depends on your accent :)
Priyesh P.
07-15-2007, 03:15 AM
it's
chrosziel: cross-zeil
arri: ah-ree (ARRI= ARnold & RIchter) - but without a break in between
Gregory Karydis
07-15-2007, 02:42 PM
And the camera is made of aluminium, not aluminum!
Cam McGrath
07-15-2007, 03:49 PM
To expand the debate - what about sachtler?
Sack-la?
Satch-ler?
Nutman - aluminium - definately!!
Shawn Nelson
07-15-2007, 04:11 PM
I've only heard satch-ler
Priyesh P.
07-15-2007, 04:20 PM
To expand the debate - what about sachtler?
Sack-la?
Satch-ler?
both wrong.
the closest I can describe it is: saht-ler
Shawn Nelson
07-15-2007, 04:24 PM
says the German... There may be a "more correct" way to say it, but if everyone in the local biz says it uniformly wrong, then it's better to say it that way. It's like the school Notre Dame. Well the correct french way (after the church) is Noe-treh-Dom, but for the school everyone calls it "Nor-ter-Dame". So sometimes the "wrong" way to say something is more correct for a particular group.
So whilst the Germans may pronounce their products one way, people over here may do it entirely different.
jaadgy akanni
07-15-2007, 06:40 PM
I've a Japanese friend who keeps correcting people on the word Nikon, which he says should be pronounced "nee-cone" and not "nigh-Con," like we usually pronounce it in the states. If the word Sachtler is a german word, then it should be pronounced "Zaht-La" where the 'h' is stressed and not silent like in English.
Eugene
07-15-2007, 08:45 PM
I thought Jannard was a French name. I think the Jannards snuck into America via Canada. We have to do a better job securing our borders.
I think you would pronounce it Zhhuhh-nard. The "ard" would be like Picard. You know how you would pronounce Jean-Luc Picard from Star Trek.
http://www.fantascienza.com/magazine/imgbank/ARTICOLI/stewart.jpg
jaadgy akanni
07-15-2007, 09:02 PM
I thought Jannard was a French name. I think the Jannards snuck into America via Canada. We have to do a better job securing our borders.
I think you would pronounce it Zhhuhh-nard. The "ard" would be like Picard. You know how you would pronounce Jean-Luc Picard from Star Trek.
That's what I thought. In fact I thought Jim was of "quebecois" descent. If so, then Jannard is pronounced "Zhah-nahr"
Gavin Greenwalt
07-15-2007, 11:33 PM
http://www.fantascienza.com/magazine/imgbank/ARTICOLI/stewart.jpg
:love: I have a man crush on Jean Luc Picard and I'm not afraid to admit it.
Andreas Fernbrant
07-16-2007, 12:34 AM
says the German... There may be a "more correct" way to say it, but if everyone in the local biz says it uniformly wrong, then it's better to say it that way. It's like the school Notre Dame. Well the correct french way (after the church) is Noe-treh-Dom, but for the school everyone calls it "Nor-ter-Dame". So sometimes the "wrong" way to say something is more correct for a particular group.
So whilst the Germans may pronounce their products one way, people over here may do it entirely different.
Is this one of those times when you say the right thing but isn't saying the right thing? :clown2:
Keith Nealy
07-16-2007, 12:42 AM
Sachtler = Sack-ler
Jannard = Jen -ard
Chrosziel = Crow - zeel
Arri = ah-ree rhimes with carry
SONY = "screwed"
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Have a nice day.
Aloha,
Keith
Martin Drew
07-16-2007, 02:19 AM
I tend to agree with Shawn that the correct pronunciation is not necessarily the native pronunciation, having said that it is not necessarily the common pronunciation either. I usually take my guide from the local distributor. For example I think the correct pronunciation of Volkswagen in English speaking countries would be Volks-vargen, but in German the pronunciation would be closer to Folks-vargen (feel free to correct me kolone). Any english speaker saying folks-vargen would be thought of as being pretentious, but most would agree that saying Volks-waggon is not correct.
M
Keith Nealy
07-16-2007, 02:35 AM
Not consider America to be a true "english" speaking nation - we say Volks -wagon here.
But I do agree that some products take on a new pronounciation for easier marketing.
The Russian vodka Stolichnaya in America is Stol-ish-NAI-ya.
In Russia it is Sto-LEACH-nee-ya
Martin Drew
07-16-2007, 02:39 AM
Probably should have made that "the UK" rather than English speaking countries.
M
Keith Nealy
07-16-2007, 02:48 AM
I'd go with your "english" over ours anyday, mate.
Now in Hawaii, we have pidgen english but that's a whole other can of worms.
martinnoweck
07-16-2007, 03:17 AM
lol ... i like this thread ;-)
@ kalone:
there are people in germany who tend to pronounce Chrosziel:
crosh ceil
(like "crash" and "ceiling")
but maybe that's a south german / bavarian variation?
all the best,
martin
Priyesh P.
07-16-2007, 05:01 AM
lol ... i like this thread ;-)
@ kalone:
there are people in germany who tend to pronounce Chrosziel:
crosh ceil
(like "crash" and "ceiling")
but maybe that's a south german / bavarian variation?
all the best,
martin
Hallo Martin,
Yo mei, des passt scho!
Oder sollte ich sagen: Ich gloob det ist richtich, keule?
:-)
But that's a good point.
Some people say: 4-35 and others 4-3-5 (for Arri's 435
camera). We should ask the owners.
BTW, Chrosziel was sold by it's founder Alfred Chrosziel,
now it could be Abrahams & Nussbaum ;-)
laguun
07-16-2007, 06:09 AM
so, lets raise the bar.
angenieux.
laguun
07-16-2007, 06:11 AM
Hallo Martin,
Yo mei, des passt scho!
Oder sollte ich sagen: Ich gloob det ist richtich, keule?
:-)
Kalone, wir sitzen übrigens auch in Berlin (mit 2 Reds) - vielleicht sollten wir 3 Berliner Redreservierer uns mal treffen...
so, lets raise the bar.
angenieux.
Ah Jo Nyoo
Dan Blanchett
07-16-2007, 06:50 AM
Jeez, I always said Jay-nerd (rhymes with Maynard).
And N.A.B., not Nab.
:turned:
Priyesh P.
07-16-2007, 01:20 PM
Kalone, wir sitzen übrigens auch in Berlin (mit 2 Reds) - vielleicht sollten wir 3 Berliner Redreservierer uns mal treffen...
Hi Jan (korrekt?),
hab Ich mitbekommen. Laguun ist ja ne bekannte Adresse.
Können wir gerne machen, würde mich auch freuen euch
mal kennenzulernen.
Beste Grüsse - sorry to all non-german users for this little break!
Zakaree Sandberg
07-16-2007, 02:09 PM
I use to and still do call it "CHORE-ZEEL" I dont know why
Keith Nealy
07-16-2007, 03:13 PM
angenieux = ON-gen-oo
Roughly-Americanized, but don't close the N in ON (it's french.)
chuck colburn
07-16-2007, 07:13 PM
sock-lear
ah lum eh num (aluminum)
oh yeah and, ang eh new
Jeff Kilgroe
07-16-2007, 09:09 PM
Here's my contribution...
NAB: I flip-flop on this one, sometimes it's EN-NAY-BEE, sometimes it's just nab. Seems to be most spell out the letters when saying it, but the computer geek in me that turns everything into an acronym likes to just say, 'nab'.
Chrosziel: khross-zeel
ARRI: ARE-REE
Sachtler: The ch has a 'k' sound, but is very brief or faint... Almost sounds like Sat-Ler.
Jannard: Jan-nard.. Or at least until the day I meet him personally and he corrects me. :)
Angenieux: Ahn-Jen-eoh... Like Keith said, don't close the 'n' off sharply and the last syllable kinda starts out sounding like "eeww, gross", but finishes almost rhyming with "dough".
Eugene
07-16-2007, 09:25 PM
Arri: Awr-Ree or Air-ree?
Is Arri pronounced the same as Ari Fleischer?
Should you roll the rr like it was Spanish, or flem it like it was Hebrew?
http://kaf.louisville.edu/fleischer/images/cover.jpg
I am still waiting for Jim to tell us how to pronounce his last name. I don't want to sound like a dumb butt.
I've a Japanese friend who keeps correcting people on the word Nikon, which he says should be pronounced "nee-cone" and not "nigh-Con,"
I believe your friend. In the USA we say KNEE-son for Nissan. In the UK, I think they say NISS-IN. So I could see how the Japs would say KNEE-con or KNEE-cone.
martinnoweck
07-17-2007, 01:47 AM
[QUOTE=Eugene;59135]Is Arri pronounced the same as Ari Fleischer?
Should you roll the rr like it was Spanish, or flem it like it was Hebrew?
http://kaf.louisville.edu/fleischer/images/cover.jpg
eugene,
i think Ari and ARRI would work - you don't roll the double R. What do you mean by flem?
martin
Ramesh Jai
07-17-2007, 02:33 AM
[QUOTE=Eugene;59135]Is Arri pronounced the same as Ari Fleischer?
Should you roll the rr like it was Spanish, or flem it like it was Hebrew?
http://kaf.louisville.edu/fleischer/images/cover.jpg
eugene,
i think Ari and ARRI would work - you don't roll the double R. What do you mean by flem?
martin
Maybe we should ask the lions in the BURRRITO ad
Jochen Schmidt-Hambrock
07-17-2007, 03:19 AM
Jannerd:
Arri: Awr-Ree or Air-ree?
Ah-ree
I´m afraid you dont really have the open A. Closest would be the A in "arts", except it´s spoken more to the front of the mouth.
But to quote your Dave Barry´s travel guide: "Everybody in germany, including most domestic animals speak better english than the average american college graduate."
Jochen
number6
07-17-2007, 05:07 AM
I thought Jannard was Yon erd.
But here's one for you... innuendo
I'm thinkin' it's like the old Patty Paige song... How much is that doggggee in-you-window
Priyesh P.
07-17-2007, 06:40 AM
But to quote your Dave Barry´s travel guide: "Everybody in germany, including most domestic animals speak better english than the average american college graduate."
Jochen
really? ever heard frederic prinz von anhalt speaking? the english that guy is talking makes me always cringe-there are people on this earth that shouldn´t reap the benefits of freedom of speech.
laguun
07-18-2007, 07:54 AM
really? ever heard frederic prinz von anhalt speaking? the english that guy is talking makes me always cringe-there are people on this earth that shouldn´t reap the benefits of freedom of speech.
"most domestic animals", not all of them ....
scnr
Jochen Schmidt-Hambrock
07-18-2007, 08:14 AM
LOL. Excellent!