View Full Version : Mullen Oscar buzz?
Tom Lowe
07-14-2007, 09:02 PM
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I haven't seen too much this year that really blew me away, in terms of cinematography. Zodiac was pretty great, and Bridge to Terabithia showcased some nice work by Michael Chapman.
I think Mullen takes the cake, though, with Astronaut Farmer. This is just brilliant work, with more than several shots that were about as good as cinematography gets. Of course it's a real longshot, because the film was under-seen. Still, I wouldn't be that surprised if David got a nod from the Academy or the ASC. I hope the studio is planning a campaign on his behalf.
Jason Francois
07-14-2007, 09:23 PM
great image.
Steven M. Bailey
07-14-2007, 10:02 PM
I haven't seen it yet but it is on my very short list of movies to see in the next few weeks. Had I realized David was the cinematographer I would have seen it at the theater. The premise of the story seems to be a positive encouraging one.
The cinematography in this piece illustrates the story beautifully: the concept of isolation in his quest is delivered in every shot. (Tom the shot you posted was one of many examples of isolation in this movie)
Adrian T.
07-15-2007, 10:25 AM
Here's the trailer:
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/theastronautfarmer/hd/
Andreas Fernbrant
07-15-2007, 11:53 AM
I just watched the trailer. Amazing work...
I wish I could afford a quality dp like that for my piece.
David Mullen ASC
07-15-2007, 06:31 PM
I have a special affinity for those opening shots on the sand dunes because they were made with a really tiny crew before the main shooting started -- basically me and the director, two camera assistants, one grip, a few others. It's very liberating to have just a camera and run around in a great location grabbing shots, sort of second unit stuff normally these days (and there was a lot of second unit work in Astronaut Farmer shot by Phil Pfeiffer) but I'm glad I got to shoot that opening sequence.
Tom Lowe
07-15-2007, 06:39 PM
Yeah, from the second that shot came up I knew it was going to be awesome. Even though the film's subject was a little offbeat (like the other Polish brother pics I've seen), it seems like this picture gave you a chance to really show off your abilities. I guess you guys had a little more time and money on this one?
Jeff Kilgroe
07-15-2007, 07:22 PM
Go David, Go! if I could vote for AF, I would. :)
Keith Nealy
07-16-2007, 02:45 AM
Well David, you know how I feel about it, have written several posts exclaiming it virtues.
I felt that the cinematography played a very central role in conveying the subtleties of the story in a very powerful, artful way.
And, it had so many types of shots it could be used as a primer for DP's.
It appears simple - but therin lies the subtleties.
You'd get my vote.
aloha,
Keith
Rob Lohman
07-16-2007, 03:59 AM
I really like the Astronaut Farmer. Good stuff David!
Adrian Correia
07-16-2007, 01:11 PM
I just finished TAF a few minutes ago. I think this is some of your best work David. In particular, the day interiors are really fantastic. You really went for it in the breakfast scenes with the family with the heavy backlight and just letting the light fall off. The lighting all around is fantastic, lyrical and subtle for how stylized it is. A really great balance bewteen realism and the poetry of what movies do best. Just as important as the lighting is, I think the compositions are just as great. Well done!
Justin Kirchhoff
07-17-2007, 08:47 PM
I remember watching the trailer awhile back and being influenced greatly by the images. Great job David, I'm very moved.
Tom Lowe
07-17-2007, 09:38 PM
I wrote a quick email to Warner Independent suggesting that Astronaut Farmer might be a good fit for an Oscar Cinematography push. :biggrin:
press@warnerindependent.com
Dan Blanchett
07-17-2007, 10:27 PM
This is starting to sound like a recent Christopher Guest movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0470765/) I saw... :usd:
Still waiting for TAF from blockbuster.com. Wish they offered it on HD-DVD though...
Tom Lowe
07-19-2007, 08:23 PM
Wait, did some guys on a forum try to get their hero nominated in that movie? :)
Say what you will, but David flat out deserves it. Unless I'm forgetting something, Astronaut Farmer easily beats Zodiac and the other pictures I have seen theatrically this year. As another respected member of Reduser.net said recently..... Astronaut Farmer is a veritable Cinematography 101 course. It has a huge array of setups. But it's not just that David's work was technically sound or impressive..... David puts art into his work.
Gavin Greenwalt
07-19-2007, 09:24 PM
Just watched it off of Xbox Live. Normally they have very good transfers. I wasn't very thrilled with this one.
Good movie all the same. Excellent use of a muted pallete. It really captured the feel and atmosphere of a small agro town. Excellent work!
I liked the last line a lot.
Poi Boy
07-22-2007, 12:47 AM
Just saw TAF; nice piece of work David ! I liked the interiors very much. Too much smoke for my taste but very nice light.
Aloha
-A
I just watched it twice and really enjoyed the film. Unfortunately it was under less than ideal viewing conditions: one of the in-flight movies on Emirates Airlines!
I think they cut the opening shots in the sand dunes, as I don't recall seeing them at all.
Jay A. Kelley
07-23-2007, 07:23 AM
I love David's work.. Not wild about the directing, but David clearly brought some "serious game" to the film. Bruce Dern seems to LOVE that phrase.
With a published budget of $13mil, and a domestic gross of $10mil (This does not look at marketing costs on one side, and DVD sales on the other) the movie most likely will not "hurt" the studio, but at the same time won't blow anyone's door's off either.. The trick here will be if the "right" people see the movie for David to have a chance. This sort of stuff is outside my paygrade.
I spoke with David about the movie recently and that conversation kind of died (Possibily due to his work on his new feature gig), that caused me to begin to research the movie on my own.
My problems with the story and how it's told seem to resonate with about 75% - 80% of the reviews it has.. So I'm comfortable with how I see it.
I did like the extra features of the DVD if just to give me tiny little tricks that I saw David using while they were trying to show me something else.
I felt this movie was a MASSIVE educational experience from seeing what the cinematographer did right, as opposed to what the director's did wrong.
Jay
David Mullen ASC
07-23-2007, 08:33 PM
If the work is visually interesting, it's just as much due to the director as the DP, for providing me with a visual script, with interesting settings to shoot, and collaborating with me in using light as a key storytelling device.
The four movies I have done with Michael Polish have allowed me to advance as an artist and as a career professional the industry, for which I am eternally grateful.
Jay A. Kelley
07-23-2007, 09:38 PM
Look David, I hear ya.. I understand where you are coming from.. And that said perhaps this is an impossible discussion.
The guy is YOUR BOSS.. And his loyality to you is important to you and your business.. And .. YOU LIKE HIM.. I am very happy to see you have a strong sense of loyality to him.
Lord knows if I had something out there I would like to think my DP is talking about me the way you are talking about Michael.
So this will be the last time I bring up this subject. In short I understand now that you really cannot go into this since it's just not worth it to do so. I'm talking about a movie, you're talking about your bread and butter... Big big difference (Not only that, you have made it clear you AGREE with his choices).
I should have though this through more carefully before bringing it up.
That said I STILL think a very interesting topic surfaced that I feel comfortable bringing up here:
Gents, when shooting, how much attention are you paying to a DVD release when shooting something that may begin in the theatre. A wide shot on a full movie screen will still allow for good facial expression, while that same shot on your home set will lose all of it and be 90% less effective.
That said, do you shoot for the screen, the Television, or what?
My opinion is that your movie is as good as it's weakest link. In other words, if you are going to end up on a small screen, you have to respect that. If I could do a "director's cut" and edit some shots for a smaller screen, then that would be a possible solution.
Jay
Poi Boy
07-23-2007, 11:11 PM
Jay, please spell it out for me...what did the director do wrong ?
Aloha
-A
Emanuel A.
07-24-2007, 04:20 AM
From the "Twin Falls Idaho", it would be possible to guess that Michael Polish and David Mullen would be a unique and an unbeatable partnership for a promising future, confirmed each feature. And they're still both young moviemakers. Go figure!
David Mullen ASC
07-24-2007, 05:28 AM
Trying to take TV in mind when making a theatrical feature is one of the reasons that movies have gotten weaker over the decades, framing-wise.
One of the best advices I ever got regarding shooting anamorphic was from Stephem Burum, ASC -- I asked him, since he did a number of split-dioptor shots in 2.35 anamorphic for Brian DePalma, which don't really work in pan & & scan 4x3 TV, if he ever worried about that. He said "I figure the harder it is to make the composition work on 4x3 TV, the better I must have composed it for scope."
What I've always liked about the anamorphic format, as opposed to Super-35, is that it is primarily designed for cinema presentation. When you see a true scope movie like "Dances with Wolves" or "JFK", you don't feel that it was shot with any consideration for TV in mind.
You look at plenty of older movies on TV and they are mostly framed in wide and medium, with very few close-ups. A "close-up" in "My Fair Lady" (65mm Super Panavision) is generally framed waist-up or chest-up.
Directors these days SO overuse close-ups that they have to use extreme wide-shots to emotionally punctuate a scene because their close-ups have no more impact.
And there is something to be said of "holding back" and not always going in tight to catch every emotion on an actor's face. In fact, my touchstone is always this scene in John Ford's "My Darling Clementine" where the Earp brothers return to their camp and find their youngest brother dead and their cattle stolen. Ford shot it from a slightly high angle so all you see are three hat brims in the rain and can't see the brothers' expressions as they look down at their dead brother.
Jay A. Kelley
07-24-2007, 07:50 AM
You are talking about the art of "what you don't show"... Boy is that a lost art in today's films.
The close-up is overused.. No doubt, it's an easy way out of a lot of potential problems.. It usually avoids continuity problems, can be used to control pacing when the producers don't like the scene. Not very good reasons huh?
I have to say... I don't know. I'll jump in on this more later.
For me, as a director, the soul and emotion of a scene lives in the eyes of the actor.. Whatever shot I get, I need to see those eyes and what they portray. So the question is: How far back can I get and still see this?
Jay
Tom Lowe
07-25-2007, 11:33 AM
Trying to take TV in mind when making a theatrical feature is one of the reasons that movies have gotten weaker over the decades, framing-wise.
One of the best advices I ever got regarding shooting anamorphic was from Stephem Burum, ASC -- I asked him, since he did a number of split-dioptor shots in 2.35 anamorphic for Brian DePalma, which don't really work in pan & & scan 4x3 TV, if he ever worried about that. He said "I figure the harder it is to make the composition work on 4x3 TV, the better I must have composed it for scope."
:) Haha, nice.
For me, as a director, the soul and emotion of a scene lives in the eyes of the actor.. Whatever shot I get, I need to see those eyes and what they portray. So the question is: How far back can I get and still see this?
Pretty far. The Sopranos and Six Feet Under generally avoided TV closeups (sorry David, I haven't seen Big Love yet!), and who ever regretted the absence of those shots, even on 20" TVs?
Doesn't all this go back to the art of "not showing"? If everything else is working as it should, you may not need those eyes and tonsils.
Tom Lowe
07-25-2007, 12:36 PM
I agree about close ups being WAY overused. Watch some old Hitchcock or recent stuff like In the Company of Men or In the Mood for Love. Some of my favorite movies have long, uncut scenes. Two shots and masters can speak volumes about what is going on, not only because they open up the film's atmosphere, but also because they can convey body language and the overall situation.
Jason Murphy
07-25-2007, 01:05 PM
Pretty far. The Sopranos and Six Feet Under generally avoided TV closeups (sorry David, I haven't seen Big Love yet!), and who ever regretted the absence of those shots, even on 20" TVs?
Doesn't all this go back to the art of "not showing"? If everything else is working as it should, you may not need those eyes and tonsils.
To follow up from this, there have been cases when a cinematographer/director has purposely lit and framed things so that an actor's eyes are NOT visible, even in medium shots and close-ups - for example, think of how Gordon Willis shot Brando in many scenes of The Godfather. It can be incredibly effective and not soul-reducing in any way, if judiciously done. Withholding that easy emotional access to the actor might sometimes be exactly what you need to retain the soul or emotion of a scene. Not always or even often, of course, but as a director, you certainly want to keep that as an option.
Tonsils, of course, are a completely different beast.
Tom Lowe
07-27-2007, 05:55 PM
Have you guys sent in your emails to Warners? :)