Basic Production Pack [Archive]

Jason Francois

07-17-2007, 02:47 PM

Looks sweet! So, the basic production pack now comes with an OConnor 2060 head? ;)

Hell, I'll take two then. :)

Looks really good.

Feels like old times. Things posting every day or so.

Zach Hilton

07-17-2007, 02:50 PM

Hell, I'll take two then. :)

Looks really good.

Feels like old times. Things posting every day or so.

Doesn't it feel good though? I love it!

PaulClements

07-17-2007, 02:55 PM

Looks good Jarred, do we have any pricepoints on a second handle to go with that rig yet?

Cheers

Paul

Mark L. Pederson

07-17-2007, 02:58 PM

Need a shot of the full premium package too -

Dan Blanchett

07-17-2007, 02:59 PM

Wow. Sweet.

Jarred Land

07-17-2007, 03:02 PM

Need a shot of the full premium package too -

working on it :)

Eirik Tyrihjel

07-17-2007, 03:08 PM

working on it :)

Hmmm, should I wait up or go to bed...

Gavin Greenwalt

07-17-2007, 03:10 PM

Brook Willard

07-17-2007, 03:29 PM

Looking good! I dig the new handle and the fact that the upper rail system is now split into two parts. She sure has lost a lot of weight since NAB.

But the best part? No more CF rods!!!

Scott Webster

07-17-2007, 03:31 PM

I just get this really weird feeling looking at that photo. It's that feeling where my mind is trying to make the intellectual leap that I could feasibly see it with my own eyes in a few weeks. I know seeing it is going to be like seeing the great wall of China. You know it exists and you've seen a ton of photos but then it's just there... sitting... not doing anything... existing.

Well I certainly look forward to the day when I can go "Does this feel like vapourware?"

I met people at NAB 07 that were adamant the camera was still never going to come to market. Seriously.

Keep the posts coming Red Team.

Alex Boothby

07-17-2007, 03:34 PM

I'm happy to see that the top handle appears to have extra mounting points - essential for mounting LCD, mics, on-camera lights, umbrellas (only half kidding). Also the top front bracket looks very promising. I agree with Finner that we need a very secure mount for the EFV - possibly something beefier than the Red-Arm.

QUESTION: Is this the same top handle as the enclosed handle we've seen, but missing the back dipping piece which mounts to the back? Or is this a completely separate handle? I like both and can't decide which to buy.

Brook Willard

07-17-2007, 03:35 PM

Hey Jarred, are the screws that hold the rods onto the rail system still 1/4"-20? They look a little smaller now.

Luke Boyce

07-17-2007, 03:42 PM

I think we're thinking of going with the basic production pack, but my concern is whether that one grip for the rods is going to be sufficient, but for our budget the premium pack might be overkill. Is the basic pack sufficient enough for handheld use?

Eirik Tyrihjel

07-17-2007, 03:45 PM

lboyce, as far as we have been told all the parts that make up the production packs can be purchased separatly, so for that full hand held comfort, just add another handle. (I guess)

Alex Boothby

07-17-2007, 03:45 PM

I think you can buy an extra handle separately. In the past Red has said that all pieces can be purchased individually so that you can buy what you need.

EDIT - Eirik beat me to it!

Jaime Vallés

07-17-2007, 03:56 PM

Nice! This is what I'll be starting out with. Maybe later I'll add other grips and stuff. Great photo!

Sean Michael Johnston

07-17-2007, 04:24 PM

Yeah, this is my starting point also, except with an EVF.

Jarred Land

07-17-2007, 04:24 PM

Hey Jarred, are the screws that hold the rods onto the rail system still 1/4"-20? They look a little smaller now.

those are thumbbolts now (waiting for them to come in)

Evin Grant

07-17-2007, 04:26 PM

An interesting idea with this package would to mount a follow focus upsidedown on some short rods on top. This should make Nikkors focus the correct direction.

Brook Willard

07-17-2007, 04:39 PM

those are thumbbolts now (waiting for them to come in)

Excellent... I assume that the screws on the bridge plates will be thumbbolts as well?

An interesting idea with this package would to mount a follow focus upsidedown on some short rods on top. This should make Nikkors focus the correct direction.

Not a bad idea... The LFF-1 can actually mount on a 19mm rod above the lens on a 235 as is - I bet it'd work in exactly the same manner here.

Roxco

07-17-2007, 04:53 PM

Looks sweet! So, the basic production pack now comes with an OConnor 2060 head? ;)

No, but if you fly into John Wayne to get your RED in person, you can pick up your O'Connor rig at the same time near the end of the airport runway.

Chad O'Connor loved steam power and earned his first Oscar with Walt Disney's True Life Adventure Films... or for his love of "iron" horseracing depending on who is telling the story. ;)

http://www.rondexter.com/professional/equipment/tripod_head_theory.htm

They did keep a real steam train at the OC shops for many years:

http://www.digitaljournalist.org/issue9909/videosmith.htm

http://www.train-video.com/chadvhs.html

http://www.ocon.com/company0.html

That's enough history for this one photo that points to the future of film!

Rosco

P.S. It seems that men who like fast wheels make the best toys/tools!

P.P.S. Will Jim win an Oscar if he has a dragster stored at the RED Shop?

Shawn Nelson

07-17-2007, 08:35 PM

Hey Jim, don't forget to make the 19mm to 15mm adapter piece as cheap as possible! I want the premium pack, but will have to wait to get it, so this piece will help tremendously to get my by. Thanks!

Unwounded

07-17-2007, 11:01 PM

No, but if you fly into John Wayne to get your RED in person, you can pick up your O'Connor rig at the same time near the end of the airport runway.

Are you talking about the one that was attached to a Panavision and the plane didn't quite make it off the ground in time. I think I heard this story from Doug Hart. :poster_oops:

Poi Boy

07-17-2007, 11:45 PM

White background ????
-A

Poi Boy

07-17-2007, 11:45 PM

Less contrast ???
-A

Poi Boy

07-17-2007, 11:46 PM

I wasn't at NAB....SHOW ME THE CAMERA !!!! DETAILS !!
-A

Finner

07-17-2007, 11:50 PM

..............

Luke Boyce

07-18-2007, 09:22 AM

Can someone from Red confirm that we'll be able to buy an extra grip if needed? Also, I can't really see on the picture but does the basic pack still come with the shoulder pad?

tj williams

07-18-2007, 03:51 PM

I like it HOw much will it cost to get one more top slider and short rods for viewfinder adjustment and steadi. low mode?

HD Hildebrand

07-18-2007, 05:54 PM

Would be great to see how the EVF and Monitor are mounted on the basic production pack.

Vincent S

07-18-2007, 07:22 PM

Ya I have the same question, how do we mount the LCD or EVF on the basic kit?

Brook Willard

07-18-2007, 11:57 PM

HD Hildebrand

07-19-2007, 03:56 AM

The LCD and EVF come with the RED ARM - an articulated arm with 1/4"-20 mounting points. You put it anywhere you see a hole on the production pack... anywhere you want it... up to 10 feet from the camera.

Yes, I believe we have all been clear on that point for some time now. The question is - where do they "both" mount on the current setup of the basic production pack? As per this picture http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3269 there seems to be only 4 small holes below the upper handle (seems a little crowded to mount both the evf and monitor there). Also, if you look at the older renders on the red.com photo tour http://www.red.com/photo-tour.shtml none of those renders with attachments match any longer. Besides, most of thise renders also have the upper rods (which the basic pack does not have).

So, will we need the premium pack to mount both or upgrade the basic pack and add one or two flat grips/side mounts (though does that require upper rods as well and you are basically upgrading to the premium pack)?

Cheers,
Dale

Brook Willard

07-19-2007, 06:19 AM

Yes, I believe we have all been clear on that point for some time now.Couldn't come up with a different way to phrase that?

For handheld operation, the ARM could be mounted next to the top handle on the upper rail mount. I believe it could also mount to the front of the rail mount. You could mount it to the handle if you wanted. There are plenty of places to mount both the EVF and LCD on this setup. Hell, as of what I saw at NAB, you could mount it directly to the camera body. If you don't find it adequate, you could buy the rear upper rail mount or a bridge plate or the "cage" handle or any number of individual parts to meet your specific requirements.

Everybody will have a different idea of their perfect setup... The production packs are just two ready-made options to start with if you so choose.

Brook Willard

07-19-2007, 06:21 AM

Can someone from Red confirm that we'll be able to buy an extra grip if needed? Also, I can't really see on the picture but does the basic pack still come with the shoulder pad?

I'm not from RED, but they have confirmed in the past that all parts are available individually.

And yes, this package does come with the shoulder pad (per RED's website).

Jochen Schmidt-Hambrock

07-19-2007, 08:35 AM

The LCD and EVF come with the RED ARM - an articulated arm with 1/4"-20 mounting points. You put it anywhere you see a hole on the production pack... anywhere you want it... up to 10 feet from the camera.

So, mostly it may be at the left side of the camera.

But...... if you hold the Red by the top handle, can the top handle be adjusted to slide to the left a bit? Because the weight of the EVF will tilt the Red to the left - and you dont want that.

Jochen

Brook Willard

07-19-2007, 10:00 AM

Sure... I believe there are 4 holes up top and the handle only uses 2.

Sanjin Jukic

07-19-2007, 10:28 AM

I'll start with the Basic Production Pack...then later switch to Premium...

HD Hildebrand

07-20-2007, 05:50 AM

Couldn't come up with a different way to phrase that?

Apologies if my statement came across as some sort of criticism. That was not my intention.

Frank Weeks

07-20-2007, 08:45 AM

"I'll start with the Basic Production Pack...then later switch to Premium..."

Me too. There are other areas that need to be addressed by my little pocket book first.

John Wee

07-20-2007, 09:40 AM

I just wish the basic prod pack will have at least 2 handles for hand held shoulder work.

Sanjin Jukic

07-20-2007, 10:11 AM

I hope an each part from the both packs should be available to order separate?!

Than you could make your "build to order" pack.

Please correct if I'm wrong!

tj williams

07-20-2007, 11:29 AM

Jarred
We have certainly seen a lot of various production packs.
when wil you show a rendering of the rod adapter to 60mm light weight support?

Dexter Gregoire

07-28-2007, 07:28 PM

I was interested to know if ordering another handle with the Basic Production Pack will be an option?

Also...

Using the LCD, Would it be possible to mount it at the front or behind the camera with the Basic Production Pack?

And lastly...

Would it be possible to mount the extra handle upside down at the back of the camera, like holding a machine gun? Or would the battery and Hard drive be in the way.

Brook Willard

07-28-2007, 08:07 PM

Yes, they've announced that individual parts can be ordered individually.

Yes, you can mount the LCD anywhere you see a 1/4-20 hole [which is what the RED ARM uses to mount].

You could mount the HD/battery somewhere else and put the handle there. It might take some creative rigging, but there's probably a way to do it.