Bad Ass

[Jarred Land]

http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/1_1184714518.jpg

[Brandon Freeman]

Indeed.

[Drew Mylrea]

Wow. What a tease the last week has been.

[Gunleik Groven]

I want bad ass... badly -;)

Gunleik

[Jaime Vallés]

That's delicious!

[Ivan G]

That's what my setup will look like! Can't wait!

[Brook Willard]

...dibs!

[Jaime Vallés]

Jarred, since you're in a posting mood...

Could you put the mattebox and follow focus on the basic production package to see what that would look like?

[PaulClements]

Being a bit pedantic now, but will the production pieces be a matching matte dark grey/black the same as the body in the final production?

[Antoine Fabi]

not exactly the party point and shoot camcorder...

A pure beauty.

[Häakon]

Heck yeah. I'm glad to see that the rod converter still exists; I'm gonna need it for my mattebox, too. This really does look phenomenal.

I'm really happy those side bars (with the mounting holes) come standard with the premium pack. It means that if the camera is ever tipped over on a table or on the ground (or heaven forbid it falls - but we all know this happens), it's severely protected on the sides. That will definitely be the setup I purchase!

[Justin Kirchhoff]

December.....why can't you come faster ;)

[Oskari Sipola]

She's a beauty.

[Jason Francois]

....gimmeee....

[Roberto B]

terrific..

[Justin Kirchhoff]

Another question Jarred, what mattebox and follow focus is that? I know it's been asked before, but with all these mattebox's, I can't keep up with them!

[Brook Willard]

Mattebox looks like the Arri MB-20 II to me. The follow focus is harder... maybe a FF-5HD? Looks a little "squarer" than that... FF-4?

[mezmo]

Hi Jarred,
Would be great to see a "Proto" Viewfinder and how it mounts.
Thanks, Mezmo.

[Qbrick]

Finally saw the amazing Peter Jackson film at the Cine Gear Expo in LA. Amazing. So, if I buy a Red One....how long is the wait as of today?

[Unwounded]

If you bought it today, I'd bet march or april 08.

[Brook Willard]

Finally saw the amazing Peter Jackson film at the Cine Gear Expo in LA. Amazing. So, if I buy a Red One....how long is the wait as of today?

If you ordered today, you probably wouldn't receive it until early 2008. That's a guess.

[Justin Kirchhoff]

If you bought it today, hop in the waiting line. We'll all be good friends by the time the 'package' comes....MUAHAHAH!!!

[Tom Lowe]

Hot damn!!! I'm ready to shoot!!!

[Gavin Greenwalt]

Ooooo! Widgets everywhere! I'm in love.

[Jeff Kilgroe]

That picture is hypnotic... I can't explain it, but I just have to keep looking at it. :)

[Kyle Spicer]

Need a higher rez picture! Preferably one that will fit 1920x1200 :)

[Tom Lowe]

Need a higher rez picture! Preferably one that will fit 1920x1200 :)


Yeah. Jarred can you please hook us up with a nice 1920x1080 version of this we can use for a desktop background?

[John Wee]

i think feb or march 2008

[Mark L. Pederson]

http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/1_1184714518.jpg

Dude - I opened this pic on my phone - sitting in Central Park listening to a live concert with the New York Philharmonic playing as the sun set -

Don't think I'll forget that rush anytime soon - it was rather cinematic - this is all way too much fun - I keep pinching myself ...

[Casey Green]

Great photo Jarred.

"All right, Mr. Jannard, she's ready for her close-up." :)

[Jannard]

Finally saw the amazing Peter Jackson film at the Cine Gear Expo in LA. Amazing. So, if I buy a Red One....how long is the wait as of today?

Feb or March 2008... unless things change. :-)

Jim

[Michael Schrengohst]

Looks like RED is working on their website. Somebody might want to throw a
404 page as anyone can peak right in.

[Andrew Benz]

Great photo Jarred... :)

Speaking of which, Jarred would it be possible to to also step back a few feet and show us your wicked lighting set up? As always thank you for the pictures.

Cheers-Benz

[Corrado Silveri]

Sweeeet....

Already on my desktop.

Thanks JArred.

[Brook Willard]

Speaking of which, Jarred would it be possible to to also step back a few feet and show us your wicked lighting set up? As always thank you for the pictures.

Cheers-Benz

I smell kino... ;)

[Andrew Benz]

I smell kino... ;)

Hahah... yeah I figured as much Brook :-). It is just that everything that I am doing right now consists of outdoor wildlife/fishing shows. I have not done any extensive G&E since my accident in feb of 2001, before that we did everything on a national (many major clients 3 ton/10 ton G/E and all the toys) scale except for narrative work. Now that I am back on my feet (literally) and I am moving into a decent loft (almost done--looks great), I have some space that I can do some tabletop/greenscreen work (400 sq ft of outlined, workable "studio space" that then becomes my den/seating area/client pit -- ceiling is 14ft). I hope to put together a nice modular studio/travel kit consisting of kinos, source 4s, dedo 650s and possibly a lite panel kit to go with my small studio tungsten pack/ c-stands etc. Then rent hmis or a truck when needed. Just looking for inspiration, it has been a while and I am anxious to be a studio rat again ;-)

Cheers-Benz

PS-- Looking forward to meeting you Brook at the LART. Also, I have always greatly appreciated your breakdown of the LA Screening your detailed e-mail was worthy of a magazine... so cheers again.

[Brook Willard]

Looking forward to meeting you too, Andrew. The LART is going to be quite a bit of fun...

I almost forgot about that email! It was quite the novel, eh? ;)

[Poi Boy]

I don't get the "ooohh, ahh, show us the lighting set up thing"; it has been going on long enough, it is not that big a deal ! or hard to do, black on black with a broad light source !!! whatever; just show the damn camera fully lit !
-A

[Andrew Benz]

I don't get the "ooohh, ahh, show us the lighting set up thing"; it has been going on long enough, it is not that big a deal ! or hard to do, black on black with a broad light source !!! whatever; just show the damn camera fully lit !
-A
Thanks for the love Poi Boy. I don't believe I oohhed or ahhed and as you know when it comes to lighting there are many paths. I am not even close to being a lighting noob, I thought I made my reasoning clear in the post above. Now imagine if you can- if YOU were flat on your back for almost four years needing surgery and you were completely unable to do what you love while you slowly lost everything... I do not understand your bs hostility, I am 38 and not some noob kid. Thanks for the put down though, I am sure you feel a little taller.

Andrew Benz

[Poi Boy]

You know what... I'm not the least bit talking to you and I'm sorry if I came off that way. Life is a bitch ; my wife is dying of cancer. I'm just frustrated that I'm always having to see into the dark to see detail on Red because Jarrad likes to make art. All I'm asking is for a fully lit image of the fucking camera, while we are at it, some moving images of the high asa charts. Not that much to ask.
Aloha
-A

[Rocket]

Soo.... any chance of those desktop wallpapers? :whistling:

[Finner]

edit...

[Bal Deo]

Can someone clearify if the rod are 19mm or 15mm?
Thanks in advance

[Jannard]

We have one setup in the corner upstairs that we shoot when we have time. Everyone is running around like mad to get things done. We just haven't had time to even shoot all the possible options, let alone change the setup. We live in a mess because we don't have time to clean up. Our web guy needs about 20 new pics he isn't getting. We are trying to finish the camera and satisfy as many requests as possible. But getting the camera done is mission #1.

I'm sorry if we can't do everything you guys want us to do. It isn't because we are being coy. We just don't have enough manpower to do it all.

Our apologies.

Jim

[Jannard]

Can someone clearify if the rod are 19mm or 15mm?
Thanks in advance

We support both. 19mm is RED standard, but we have options for Arri 15mm offset.

Jim

[Andrew Benz]

You know what... I'm not the least bit talking to you and I'm sorry if I came off that way. Life is a bitch ; my wife is dying of cancer. I'm just frustrated that I'm always having to see into the dark to see detail on Red because Jarrad likes to make art. All I'm asking is for a fully lit image of the fucking camera, while we are at it, some moving images of the high asa charts. Not that much to ask.
Aloha
-A

Well then there you have it. First off, you are frustrated and full of it and there is no need to act like that. Since I was the only one discussing the lighting set up you can see how I might misinterpret your frustration over the lighting of the pics. The "Life is a bitch" comment was assinine. But I will do you one better and do so without bullshit or crass sarcasm...

Poi Boy, I am really very sorry about your wife. I wish you nothing but hope/love for you and your family and I will keep you and your wife in my thoughts and prayers. I may just be a southern boy who is a nobody, but I am sincere.

Being or feeling in a place that is bereft of Hope is something that I do not wish on anyone because I lived it. I am sorry if you were offended.

EDIT* Poi, I see your post below, thank you and accepted. I really do wish there was something that we as a community could do for you, I am just deeply sorry my man. Now, I am not going to ask to see your lighting set up ;-) but I do look forward to seeing the beautiful images that you make with your REDS. On the outside chance, if there is anything that I can ever do for you -if I can I will- just ask-- I mean it. Cheers mate-- Andrew

[Poi Boy]

OK I was assinine, it is only a camera. My sincere apology to you Andrew, live long and prosper.
Aloha
-A

[Alexander Nikishin]

OMG it's beautiful!

That happens to be the EXACT setup I'll purchase, and that O'Connor head is damn smooth, just shot with one once more today.

Thank you for the look into my future magical RED team. :sorcerer:


http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/1_1184714518.jpg

[Sam Druckerman]

my wife is dying of cancer. Aloha
-A

Poi Boy, I'm very sorry to hear about your wife. I know a few people who were diagnosed with terminal cancer, but managed to beat it. If you would like anymore info please email me .... sam@red4kla.com



We have one setup in the corner upstairs that we shoot when we have time. Everyone is running around like mad to get things done. We just haven't had time to even shoot all the possible options, let alone change the setup. We live in a mess because we don't have time to clean up. Our web guy needs about 20 new pics he isn't getting. We are trying to finish the camera and satisfy as many requests as possible. But getting the camera done is mission #1.

I'm sorry if we can't do everything you guys want us to do. It isn't because we are being coy. We just don't have enough manpower to do it all.

Our apologies.

Jim

Jim, I have been in awe of everything you have accomplished with such a small group. And I understand you can only do so much.

Because many of us have been on this great ride with you since the beginning.... And we have a lot more invested in Red than just Money. We have invested our time, spirit and passion. And being so vested, in our excitement we can loose sight of all the balls you guy's have to juggle.

Thanks for all your efforts.

In the end, I think we all going to miss the excitement and comradeship this development process has generated. Now that the camera's will be here soon...... We can all channel this good energy into the projects will be shooting with our Red's.

BTO, The camera set up look Smokin! I can't wait.

[Rocket]

It's not over, it'll never be over. We have 4K projectors and displays to look forward to, not to mention the inevitable camera upgrades. Red are going to go far and this is only the beginning! I don't think this forum and these discussions or the people who make it so informative and entertaining will be going anywhere.

[Keith Nealy]

I understand about being busy and the limited time they have to do more pictures but it would be great to see it totally complete with EVF, LCD, drive and battery.

If I saw that I may have the big "O". :ohmy:

aloha,

Keith

[Keith Nealy]

But honey, I was only reading the stories!

[Jochen Schmidt-Hambrock]

Camera fetishism is a very expensive disorder. Try switching to shoes or divers clothing.

[Jay A. Kelley]

You know, as smart as we all are, I don't think even we realize the full potential that Jim could have on the industry as a whole. Will he "change everything"? I doubt it. Will have have one of the largest impacts on the equipment side of hollywood in the last decade? I believe he will.

Think about this: Kids in college will be able to practice and learn on the SAME camera they will use as pros years later.. Think of the amazing experience and hours they will bring to the table.

We're nearing the end of July, photos are showing up on this site almost daily. Jim and Co are clearly happy with the progress and playing with the camera like crazy. They are throwing them in the hands of directors and camerapeople like there's no tomorrow, and the reactions are WONDERFUL.

The final hurdle, IMHO will be support on the back end. Given that the cameras are already putting in some hours out there with no apparent problems, I would say that part is cool. Now all he needs are enough replacement parts and the ability to get them onto the sets quickly and he will have it.

I have so enjoyed watching all this happen. It's been a lot of fun.

Jay

[laguun]

Great shot, thank you.

Can we use the shot for rental catalogue/web?

We are still in the complicated situation of preparing our 2008 rental catalogue and i have a certain product, in high demand, i am not able to shoot a product photo of....

[Ivan G]

All I do is talk about the RED in front of family and friends. They're beginning to think I need serious help. I keep giving them the same story. "Just wait until I get it"

[Steve Gibby]

...getting the camera done is mission #1.

Definitely...as it should be. RED Team is focused down onto that core mission, and as Larry the Cable Guy might say: "Git 'er done!"

RED Team has done an amazing amount of work in a comparatively short period of time for multiple R&D and development this complex. Thanks for all your hard work RED Team. The results speak for themselves...

Bad Ass setup rocks for sure!

[Don Woods]

Wow I just got a chubby....

[Tim Lüdin]

Wow, this is exactly the setup I was hoping for.
The rails are much tighter and more usefull than the ones we have seen at the NAB.
I think its pretty close to perfekt.

Maybe the top handles could be a bit more flexible.
But I know, we haven't seen anything yet.

Great, great job. I'm realy stoked.

Thanks

Tim

[Jarred Land]

Maybe the top handles could be a bit more flexible.
But I know, we haven't seen anything yet.

Tim

remember, the top handles can be put on sideways, upside down, offset left and right. You will notice on this photo, the bottom handles, they can be put anywhere on the top rails as well, either inline or offset.

[Sanjin Jukic]

Amazing!!!

[Tim Lüdin]

Thanks Jarred

I kinda knew you thougt everything out.
In the last few month, the designs changed so many times. That we never realy knew, what was coming.
To see the cam like this now, is realy making my day.

I think you guys are there yet.

Tim

[Zk2007]

Nice!
So did it go back to what it used to be with the flat cage with mounting holes? That was always my favorite set up. But then the flat mounting parts became grips and then it was all changed completely again to "hanging" grips. Now it's back to flat?

[Jannard]

Nice!
So did it go back to what it used to be with the flat cage with mounting holes? That was always my favorite set up. But then the flat mounting parts became grips and then it was all changed completely again to "hanging" grips. Now it's back to flat?

You can do either the flat grips for mounting or the "handle grips" for flying...

Jim

[Red Oklahoma]

what matte box and follow focus are on the camera in that pic

[Häakon]

what matte box and follow focus are on the camera in that pic
From page two:

Mattebox looks like the Arri MB-20 II to me. The follow focus is harder... maybe a FF-5HD? Looks a little "squarer" than that... FF-4?

[Emanuel A.]

Poi Boy, I am really very sorry about your wife. I wish you nothing but hope/love for you and your family and I will keep you and your wife in my thoughts and prayers. I may just be a southern boy who is a nobody, but I am sincere. I'm also a southern boy but on another part of the world. I second the Andrew's words. My best wishes and keep you positive, Poi. May God be with all of you and your relatives!

Aloha,
E.

[Pierce Cook]

Curious if the SD card they're shooting with will be preferred over other flash options and what size/speed the card is?

[Brook Willard]

They shoot with CF. The SD port on the camera is for settings transfer and similar functions.

[Pierce Cook]

They shoot with CF. The SD port on the camera is for settings transfer and similar functions.

That's what I meant, thanks Brook! How is CF compared to the others? Will any CF card do?

[Jannard]

That's what I meant, thanks Brook! How is CF compared to the others? Will any CF card do?

No... only the fastest CF cards will work. We will certify the ones that do and also offer a RED CF card that is guaranteed to work.

Jim

[Tonaci Tran]

Lookin forward to using the red cf cards in my digital slr as well. I hope a 16gb cf red card isn't too far off.

[Don Woods]

It will be exciting to see the RED CF card. The right price point witch we know they will be and I'll buy them for RED and my SLR's

[Kevin Halverson]

No... only the fastest CF cards will work. We will certify the ones that do and also offer a RED CF card that is guaranteed to work.

Jim

Looking forward to RED's CF offering. What type of write cycle endurance do you anticipate for these?

[NZ1]

Jarred

Can you please advise what mattebox and follow focus units are on the camera in this shot?

Also is Red going to provide mattebox and follow focus units for delivery at same time as camera & lenses?

[Brook Willard]

Jarred

Can you please advise what mattebox and follow focus units are on the camera in this shot?

Also is Red going to provide mattebox and follow focus units for delivery at same time as camera & lenses?

This has already been answered several times in the thread. The mattebox is an Arri MB-20 II and the follow focus appears to be an Arri FF-4.

RED has not announced any mattebox or follow focus units. They have announced that they will make lens motors and a wired control system [the Supergrip] at some point, but no dates or details have been provided.

[ChristopherKenworthy]

This has already been answered several times in the thread. The mattebox is an Arri MB-20 II and the follow focus appears to be an Arri FF-4.

RED has not announced any mattebox or follow focus units. They have announced that they will make lens motors and a wired control system [the Supergrip] at some point, but no dates or details have been provided.

I asked Ted on Wednesday if we might see the Supergrip by March 2008, and he said, "Maybe by then, but it's not a priority". Fair enough.