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Paul Wizikowski
08-01-2007, 03:01 PM
What are people thinking about using for camera cases?

Jim are you guys making any, if not, what are you using right now? I would like to budget this in to the overhaul we are doing to our edit suites in anticipation of the RED camera but its difficult to size up gear that isn't "final" yet. (BTW this includes lenses and all accessories, we've pretty much signed up for everything)

PaulClements
08-01-2007, 05:02 PM
I'm using Storm Cases.

Evin Grant
08-01-2007, 07:33 PM
The Red team used Pelican cases at NAB, I'm not sure if they are still using them but that's what I'll use most of the time except when travelling light or solo where I'll use a Lowepro Compu Trekker AW Plus or possibly the new Vertex 300. I'm thinking a 1564 for the Body, EVF, 2 Red Drives, battery pack and basic production pack and a 1554 for Nikkors, Mattebox, and follow focus. Pelican seemed very interested in making a custom case for Red at NAB so you never know.

Ed Watkins
08-01-2007, 07:38 PM
Hey Evin,
Will those Pelicans fit on a plane as hand luggage in the US? I'm never sure what the size restrictions are...

Johnny Friday
08-01-2007, 08:49 PM
IGLOO ALL THE WAY HERE :bleh:

Ken Corben
08-01-2007, 09:40 PM
IGLOO ALL THE WAY HERE :bleh:

Igloo - the poor man's choice and a personal favorite. Not as eye catching to baggage handlers and works great in the field.

BTW - your reservation number is lower than mine Johnny

PaulClements
08-02-2007, 01:30 AM
I saw the Peli and Storm cases displayed at a military exhibition a month or two ago and everything I saw pointed to higher quality and better functionality in the storm cases. Just hold comparitive sizes and the Peli feels slightly cheaper.

You can use the i2500 storm case on an aeroplane as hand luggage. Quite a bit of room inside one for a redone body and few other pieces.

Robert Mott
08-02-2007, 01:57 PM
What are people thinking about using for camera cases?

Jim are you guys making any, if not, what are you using right now? I would like to budget this in to the overhaul we are doing to our edit suites in anticipation of the RED camera but its difficult to size up gear that isn't "final" yet. (BTW this includes lenses and all accessories, we've pretty much signed up for everything)

We are going to use Portabrace Cases. http://www.portabrace.com/

RKM

Blair S. Paulsen
08-02-2007, 04:43 PM
Portabrace hard cases with wheels for me.

Johnny Friday
08-02-2007, 06:03 PM
Hey KC,
I like my pelican and storm cases---but they are always higher profile for the mug at the airport looking to lift something. Been using Igloos now on the boat and it's been great and not to mention a lot less expensive....especiallly when hauling 18 or 20 cases of kit. Still got my pleicans and storms though.... but try not to use when flying.

My reservation is still in the thousand range. Guess that's good in one respect in that the camera should be fully featured by then.

.....water was nice today. 4 hours submerged at Swani reef and the wreck.

Salut....

chuck colburn
08-02-2007, 06:11 PM
IGLOO ALL THE WAY HERE :bleh:

Igloo is good, but these are better!

http://www.doghouses.com/dog-houses/plastic-dog-houses/indigodoghouse.cfm

Good for hot AND cold shooting.

Johnny Friday
08-03-2007, 05:22 AM
I like it....doubles as a motel at the same time....good for those low budget shoots. Only downfall is getting it on the plane.

Mark L. Pederson
08-10-2007, 11:41 PM
Jarred -

Any news of a RED or RED BRANDED (Pelican/Storm,etc.) hard case?

jbeale
08-11-2007, 12:34 AM
Any news of a RED or RED BRANDED (Pelican/Storm,etc.) hard case?
Is that really a good idea? I realize most outside the industry don't know what Red is, but it still seems like asking for trouble.

Mark L. Pederson
08-11-2007, 01:44 AM
Is that really a good idea? I realize most outside the industry don't know what Red is, but it still seems like asking for trouble.
Well ...

A) I wouldn't leave ANY case of professional gear anywhere without it being "secure" - (locked away, under watch of camera department/PA/teamster/etc.)

B) Ever see a Panavision case? It says ...PANAVISION

Brook Willard
08-11-2007, 01:48 AM
Something tells me that if Matt and Pelican got together... there'd be one seriously cool looking bastard child of a case.

Mark L. Pederson
08-11-2007, 02:07 AM
Something tells me that if Matt and Pelican got together... there'd be one seriously cool looking bastard child of a case.

100% agree!

Pelican was in the booth at NAB expressing their desire to do something ... I was curious if anything was happening ...?

Evin Grant
08-11-2007, 02:25 AM
Something tells me that if Matt and Pelican got together... there'd be one seriously cool looking bastard child of a case.

"With BOMBS on it!":gun:

Sorry, inside joke.

Evin Grant
08-11-2007, 04:00 AM
I'm hopefull something like this will be possible with the Pelican 1510...
http://www.reduser.net/evin/RedPelican.jpg
Based on this photo for size reference...
http://www.cambags.com/nikon/d70/cases/images/pelican_1510/pelican_1510case_nikon_d70_d200_terzian_1.jpg
Of course with no actual dimentions I really can't know for sure.

David Battistella
08-11-2007, 05:20 AM
Igloo is good, but these are better!

http://www.doghouses.com/dog-houses/plastic-dog-houses/indigodoghouse.cfm

Good for hot AND cold shooting.

Apparently, this is where some of the guys on this board are thinking this is where their wife might put them for investing in this camera.

David

Michael Brennan
08-11-2007, 06:42 AM
Storm cases have a clever non nail breaking push button release for the clasps.

23kg and 32kg are the magic numbers for avoiding excess bagagge in Europe

A custom aluminium case is usually lighter than the same size plastic case but far more expensive and troublesome to acquire.

UK aluminium case manufacturers state that 2 inches of closed cell foam around equipment is adequate for a in-the-hold camera case.

Foam cut by computer that snuggly fits equipment works better than loose fitting foam cut with an electric knife at home.


During a bump, the close fitting foam creates friction accross sides of the camera that reduces G levels on the foam the camera is sitting on.
No kit should be able to jiggle around even a little in the case.

Relatively soft foam supplied with Peli and storm cases is designed for lighter kit than the RED and does not offer much grip to the sides of kit.


A halfway house in respect to cost is to use computer cut stiffer foam in a Storm/Peli case.


Mike Brennan

Damien Molineaux
08-11-2007, 07:01 AM
...
Of course with no actual dimentions I really can't know for sure.

From Jim's generous posting :
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1335&highlight=dimensions

Red One's dimensions are (roughly !) :
12" long x 6.3" tall x 5.2" wide

and kindly converted to metric by Eirik :
305 mm long x 160 mm tall x 132 mm wide

Will everything fit in a 1510 ? That would be nice, however a 1510 is too big for hand luggage and there's no way I'm letting my Red in the hands of airport luggage handlers. But for those times when you're not travelling by plane.

Cheers,
Damien

Damien Molineaux
08-11-2007, 07:10 AM
I'm sure many are like me curious to see what Red comes up in terms of packaging. I can't help but wonder how'll they'll find the time to do that, and the manual and all that stuff that comes with the release of a new product.

Like I've said in the past, I wish Red would but their time and effort in a permanent packaging solution rather than in a temporary packaging that will only serve to ship the camera. I am certainly willing to pay a few hundreds dollars (or more) for that. What a shame to make a beautiful packaging, I don't believe Red would do any less, that will just get trashed, or stored in your garage, celar, attic or wherever ; once we've received our cameras. Maybe the Peli-Red collaboration will result in something.

Cheers,
Damien

Mark Crabtree
08-11-2007, 07:33 AM
I've been in the TV commercial business since the late seventies and have bought broadcast cameras and camcorders directly from Sony, Thompson, Ikegami, Hitachi and Panasonic. With every purchase the manufacturer offered the option of a manufacturer's approved/designed shipping case. Usually made by Thermodyne. I always purchased the camera maker's shipping case because I trusted them with determining the safest practical shipping solution. With those cameras costing me anywhere from 20K to 70K I always felt the exra $300 to $500 was good insurance. The Red Camera is being purchased by everyone from Productions Companies with big budgets to independents working out of their homes trying to stretch every dollar. My point here is that just as many will want to find their own solutions to shipping, many others will feel a Red solution will offer a great peace of mind as we hand our gear over to FedEx or heaven forbid an Airline. I know Jim and the team have so many requests from all of us and it may not be possible at this time for them to develop a shipping case solution. Absent a shipping solution from Red I will probably utilize a Pelican or Storm case so as to have a light weight water tight lugg around, and then throw the whole case into one of my old Thermodyes for shipping.

Brook Willard
08-11-2007, 12:04 PM
I'm hopefull something like this will be possible with the Pelican 1510...


Personally, I would want the camera a little more secure than that. I'd put the body in its own case... maybe with a few accessories [EVF, etc.], but I'd put it all in fitted foam. None of that little "rip out the cube" foam stuff, but an actual cut foam piece for the camera. Maybe I'm just super paranoid, but those little nylon/velcro inserts have never given me much reassurance.

And you need bombs. Bombs, dude! Your case doesn't have any.

Evin Grant
08-11-2007, 01:56 PM
I've used the Velcro insert Pelicans for years, they hold up much better than any foam does, they don't deteriorate, they clean up easy and their much more versitile, because as you add or change your kit you don't have to "retool" your inserts (As in slice it up with a kitchen knife:ninja:). They offer plenty of padding, if you're worried just doubble up the inserts for more protection, but don't forget, this is pro gear, I'm not saying you should throw it in your Jansport backpack with some keys and pair of ice skates but it should be plenty safe in this configuration.

I'll get Matt to CNC me a "Bomb" branding iorn so I can scorch some bombs all over the fucker!
http://www.bellum.nu/armoury/T12.gif

Nook Kim
08-11-2007, 09:23 PM
What do you all think of this?

http://www.filmtools.com/zuca.html

It is a perfect sized case for the carry-on. Has anyone used it? I'm really
curious what the inside of the bag looks like.

I like how I can sit on it, too. No one will be able to grab and go!

Michael Brennan
08-12-2007, 05:05 AM
From Jim's generous posting :
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1335&highlight=dimensions
That would be nice, however a 1510 is too big for hand luggage and there's no way I'm letting my Red in the hands of airport luggage handlers. But for those times when you're not travelling by plane.

Cheers,
Damien


In Europe and Australia the hand luggage is weighed at checkin and sometimes security.
The limit is usually 6 to 7 kg.

One way around this is to put a lens on the the camera and sling it over your shoulder.

One peice only out of UK but this limit may be dropped, the total weight still must not exceeed 7kg



Mike Brennan

Dave Blackham
11-11-2007, 12:54 PM
I always fit my Peli's with closed cell foam, if i caseing a number of items I get it profesionaly cut for a batch of cases. I think its about £50 for 1 inch foam per 8 x 4 sheet in the UK.

Is the Peli 1510 the definitive case then ? or is there any advance on that.

Dave