Red epic pics @ ibc 2009

[Wouter Verberkt]

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Thanx a lot to Jim and Jarred

[Harrison Diamond]

Arri, eat your heart out. That thing is TINY.

[Kyle Presley]

Schweeeeet!

[Gunleik Groven]

So that's how my next cam looks...

[Martin Weiss]

So that's how my next cam looks...
Just my first thought.

We just might be able to shoot 3d if we hook up ;)

[Justin O'Neill]

Fantastic pics Wouter. Thanks for sharing these.

[Eirik Tyrihjel]

I am ready whenever it is ready!

[Steven Caesare]

Do I spy one of the new LCD's lying face-down on the table too?

-sc

[Casey Green]

Lookin' Great, Jim! Congrats!

[Stuart English]

Do I spy one of the new LCD's lying face-down on the table too?

Yes you do..

[Eirik Tyrihjel]

Do I spy one of the new LCD's lying face-down on the table too?

-sc

DAMN shallow depth of field...

[Robert Jackson]

Arri, eat your heart out. That thing is TINY.

Yeah, WAY smaller than I'd imagined. I was thinking RED One-ish.

[Jon Carr]

ha... good things do come in small packages.

that looks great

[Erik Widding]

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Thanx a lot to Jim and Jarred

Looks promising for the Birger Mount users to have an inexpensive upgrade when moving over to the EPIC... we are committed to making this happen.

[fALk Gärtner]

Dont want to troll or anything please don´t take it wrong. I really like that there is any progress as in real pictures and systems with an actual sensor inside (I guess the hardest part about the whole package) but there are only Epics at IBC right? No sign of any flavour of scarlet anywhere? Did I miss something anywhere about them? Just curious as I am waiting for a Scarlet S35 (and I can wait longer if it gets done right in the end).

[Ramesh Jai]

So where exactly do we get to see the Epic at IBC? Does RED have a stand? Hope to get the answer 'coz I'll be there tomorrow. Thanks

[Lauri Kettunen]

Looks promising for the Birger Mount users to have an inexpensive upgrade when moving over to the EPIC... we are committed to making this happen.

Erik, are you able to get the specs already at this point and start planning the upgrade?

[Sergei Franklin]

The earlier prototypes had a flat top. Now I see a curved part on top. This makes it more complicated to mount a plate on top for steadicam low mode.

[Gunleik Groven]

Just my first thought.

We just might be able to shoot 3d if we hook up ;)

I'll be DIT'ing then.... I see only on one eye -:)

But, I'm in!

[Noah Kadner]

Lovely. :)

Noah

[Jeff Coatney]

I see that heat management has been beefed up. As for the bump topside, I doubt it will create a problem. Or, hang it upside down and invert the footage. Board stack heat allowance maybe?

[Sean R.]

So where exactly do we get to see the Epic at IBC? Does RED have a stand? Hope to get the answer 'coz I'll be there tomorrow. Thanks

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=34841

[Justin O'Neill]

Dont want to troll or anything please don´t take it wrong. I really like that there is any progress as in real pictures and systems with an actual sensor inside (I guess the hardest part about the whole package) but there are only Epics at IBC right? No sign of any flavour of scarlet anywhere? Did I miss something anywhere about them? Just curious as I am waiting for a Scarlet S35 (and I can wait longer if it gets done right in the end).

Hi Falk, from what I can tell the main difference between the Epic and Scarlet is in the ASICs and they aren't ready yet and aren't at IBC.

My guess is the only difference between what Jim and Jarred have at IBC and the Scarlet is that the Scarlet casing is supposed to be slightly smaller.

All of those modules will work with Scarlet as well.

[Bill Anderson]

IncREDible!

[fALk Gärtner]

Thanks Justin. The ASICS part makes sense.

Another thing I noticed on the pictures is all these holes in the body - none of which where present in the rendering - as others noted that is probably for heat flow. I am a tiny bit concerned about dirt, dust and water spilling in there. I liked the idea of a pretty tight rugged box - now its more like a fragile laptop where on drop of water in the wrong place can cause extreme havoc or too much dust and it finds it way to the sensor!?

[Blair S. Paulsen]

Not to be rude, but does anyone out there think that the Red Team would build a camera that easily allowed dirt, dust, water or anything else to get in? Really?

I know there are plenty of haters out there but let's not go down FUD road with the Epic before its even released.

Cheers- #19

[David J. Shuman]

AMAZING! - Can't wait to get Scarlet 3-D Setup, Just Gorgeous!!!!!!!

[Paul Hazlett]

Do I assume correctly that one can rotate the grip and lock it in like an
eng lens? maybe?

[Justin O'Neill]

Thanks Justin. The ASICS part makes sense.

Another thing I noticed on the pictures is all these holes in the body - none of which where present in the rendering - as others noted that is probably for heat flow. I am a tiny bit concerned about dirt, dust and water spilling in there. I liked the idea of a pretty tight rugged box - now its more like a fragile laptop where on drop of water in the wrong place can cause extreme havoc or too much dust and it finds it way to the sensor!?

The RED One has heat vents as well and we've used it in dusty and wet environments without any problems. The way RED designs it there aren't circuit boards right behind those vents, all of the fragile parts are well protected. I expect the DSMC will be the same.

[Andrew Walker]

I'm getting as excited about Epic now as I was right before I got my RED One. I can almost taste the FF35 6K...and yes I know its not up for a while. But still it will be here before you know it.

[Pawel Achtel]

Love it already.

[Jaime Vallés]

Beautiful photos. Thanks for sharing!

[Jim Perry, Jr.]

Is any one noting all of the photos and putting them in one thread?
These photos look stunning? Yes, Thanks for sharing!

[alex lemon]

Two please.

[Stephen Gentle]

Love it already.

I know! I'm really looking forward to the presentation tonight (in my timezone at least) - hopefully they will have some more info on the new stuff (like the OVF) and maybe even some expected release dates!

[MichaelHalsell]

Wouter Verberkt (http://www.reduser.net/forum/member.php?u=24947) nice first post. Thanks for the picts.

Just a tangent: I think Jannard has so much vision. I remember the community reaction when he announced the new format of Epic and Scarlet. The room went silent for a moment. Reactions were mixed.

Fast forward 2009. Today is the first tangible look/see at the new EPIC. The pleasing smiles have returned, faith has been restored. Just goes go to show that Jannard has VISION. Without vision, the effort is just pedestrian. The pedestrian awards this year will have to go to Canon and Panasonic. Decent offerings, but pedestrian.

Faith is the belief in the unseen. Just tipping my hat AGAIN to Jannard and Team for inspiring work. Despite the lackluster economy, we have gotten alot of gifts from Red this year, outstaning glass, improved workflow, better color science, new camera builds. Your efforts are truly appreciated. (ie. satisfied customer)

[Ryan S]

Wouter Verberkt (http://www.reduser.net/forum/member.php?u=24947) nice first post. Thanks for the picts.

Just a tangent: I think Jannard has so much vision. I remember the community reaction when he announced the new format of Epic and Scarlet. The room went silent for a moment. Reactions were mixed.

Fast forward 2009. Today is the first tangible look/see at the new EPIC. The pleasing smiles have returned, faith has been restored. Just goes go to show that Jannard has VISION. Without vision, the effort is just pedestrian. The pedestrian awards this year will have to go to Canon and Panasonic. Decent offerings, but pedestrian.

Faith is the belief in the unseen. Just tipping my hat AGAIN to Jannard and Team for inspiring work. Despite the lackluster economy, we have gotten alot of gifts from Red this year, outstaning glass, improved workflow, better color science, new camera builds. Your efforts are truly appreciated. (ie. satisfied customer)

Well said, Michael. Jim and the Red team define visionary.

Wouter, what a way to start on Reduser! Excellent photos, and welcome!

[Chris Kennedy]

How about sending one of 'em down here to Florida? :driving:

[Shawn Nelson]

I'm getting as excited about Epic now as I was right before I got my RED One. I can almost taste the FF35 6K...and yes I know its not up for a while. But still it will be here before you know it.

EpicX - December 09 first shipping units
FF35 Monstro - June 10 first shipping units

thus sayeth Shawn

[Chris Kennedy]

EpicX - December 09 first shipping units
FF35 Monstro - June 10 first shipping units

thus sayeth Shawn



NICE that is music to my ears!

[Imran Farouk]

Jees, if those dates become real I better get a move on using my R1...haven't used it yet!

[Shawn Nelson]

NICE that is music to my ears!

haha, well thats my guess based on very little, and frankly, those may be too optimistic

[Jeremy_Sawatzky]

Holy shiznet im excited now, those things look frikin awsome. more and bigger pictures!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chosei Funahara]

I love the looks and its feelings from offhollywood's quicktime movie
https://twitter.com/offhollywood

[John Nguyen]

Wait, I'm getting conflicting information now. Is the Scarlet or the Epic being released first?

[Roberto Lequeux]

A certain SNL music skit comes to mind. But it may be a bit too crude to mention.

:emote_22_yikes:

[Peter Mosiman]

It looks amazing. :drool5:

[JosephArthur]

Sweet.

[Raul Gonzo]

nevermind.

[Imran Farouk]

Its EPIC-X

[Mark L. Pederson]

Having seen early prototype mock-ups - I have to say when I had the chance to spend a little time with Jarred earlier today with the new prototype - it completely surpassed my expectations.

I LOVE the dual CF module that allows recording to span from one card to another and allows you to "hot-swap" while shooting. When the 32G CFs ship - this is going to be just awesome. I was also struck by how small the brain is with the EVF/LCD / CF module on the side - which is all you need to shoot - PERFECT for the forthcoming mid-sized ET 3D rig. I also dig the fact that the EVF connection is the SAME connection for the LCD and you can run THREE at any time. 1 EVF + 2 LCDs, 2EVFs + 1LCD, ETC. - also cool that you can power from Red Brick, or smaller batteries in a module - or battery in the handle.

I don't think I can find words for how excited I am about this camera and how impressed and proud I am of the entire RED team.

EPIC-X is going to CRUSH.

[Chosei Funahara]

Having seen early prototype mock-ups - I have to say when I had the chance to spend a little time with Jarred earlier today with the new prototype - it completely surpassed my expectations.

I LOVE the dual CF module that allows recording to span from one card to another and allows you to "hot-swap" while shooting. When the 32G CFs ship - this is going to be just awesome. I was also struck by how small the brain is with the EVF/LCD / CF module on the side - which is all you need to shoot - PERFECT for the forthcoming mid-sized ET 3D rig. I also dig the fact that the EVF connection is the SAME connection for the LCD and you can run THREE at any time. 1 EVF + 2 LCDs, 2EVFs + 1LCD, ETC. - also cool that you can power from Red Brick, or smaller batteries in a module - or battery in the handle.

I don't think I can find words for how excited I am about this camera and how impressed and proud I am of the entire RED team.

EPIC-X is going to CRUSH.

Mark,

Thanks reporting, proud of you and thanks to all of RedTeam.

[Ian B. Johnson]

Mark,

That's some great news. I'm surprised no one else is reporting about the RED presentation this morning! Where are all the photos and in-depth analyses of Jim's words?

[Mark L. Pederson]

Mark,

That's some great news. I'm surprised no one else is reporting about the RED presentation this morning! Where are all the photos and in-depth analyses of Jim's words?

Well ... you know how it goes ... everything subject to change. But EPIC is just waiting for ASIC. First spin due in about a week. Fingers crossed. Jim did a great Q&A - really expressed how much FUN he (and the RED team) are having on this wild ride.

I love his line "yesterday I knew nothing, today I know a little, tomorrow I might be dangerous".

I think it's fair to say Jim is ... dangerous. In the very BEST way.

[Petr Dvorak]

I love the looks and its feelings from offhollywood's quicktime movie
https://twitter.com/offhollywood

where is that OT movie?

[Tom Lowe]

Having seen early prototype mock-ups - I have to say when I had the chance to spend a little time with Jarred earlier today with the new prototype - it completely surpassed my expectations.

I LOVE the dual CF module that allows recording to span from one card to another and allows you to "hot-swap" while shooting. When the 32G CFs ship - this is going to be just awesome. I was also struck by how small the brain is with the EVF/LCD / CF module on the side - which is all you need to shoot - PERFECT for the forthcoming mid-sized ET 3D rig. I also dig the fact that the EVF connection is the SAME connection for the LCD and you can run THREE at any time. 1 EVF + 2 LCDs, 2EVFs + 1LCD, ETC. - also cool that you can power from Red Brick, or smaller batteries in a module - or battery in the handle.

I don't think I can find words for how excited I am about this camera and how impressed and proud I am of the entire RED team.

EPIC-X is going to CRUSH.

:eek6::eek6::eek6:

OMG I'm so stoked on these new DSMC cameras!!

[Victoria C]

Now I'm as excited about the Epic as I was about the RED One, which is saying a lot.

[Sven Seynaeve]

First and for all I must thank mr.Jim and Jarred especially for allowing us to get the opportunity to see the epic coming alive and I must say the camera will be incredible.

they have tried to answer all the questions and they have been really helpfull to all of us at IBC.

thanks a lot for this both of you.

[Nils Ruinet]

I also dig the fact that the EVF connection is the SAME connection for the LCD and you can run THREE at any time. 1 EVF + 2 LCDs, 2EVFs + 1LCD, ETC.
Hey that's great !
Do you know if it will this time be possible to have different settings on each one ? I mean, for example, 1:1 magnification on the assistant's LCD, clean signal in the EVF and false color in the 3rd LCD ? + TC / file name overlay on one of the HD-SDI outs ?

[Imran Farouk]

If the first spin is in about a week...can you imagine if right off the bat it just works?! BE BRILLIANT! but as always tweaks here and there...so maybe its a reality that some will ship in 1st Q 2010

[Raul Gonzo]

Hey that's great !
Do you know if it will this time be possible to have different settings on each one ? I mean, for example, 1:1 magnification on the assistant's LCD, clean signal in the EVF and false color in the 3rd LCD ? + TC / file name overlay on one of the HD-SDI outs ?

I don,t know the answer to this, but with modules I would think
that the possibilities are endless...

[Stuart English]

In addition to the increased number of monitor outputs, EPIC will also surpass the flexibility of RED ONE in regard to what combinations of monitor signal are available on each of those outputs.

Specific details later.....

[Brad Webb]

Wow..... just wow. I think I'm just as excited to learn about all the module capabilities as I am the cameras.

Is it safe to assume that all these modules will also work with the scarlets?

[Wouter Verberkt]

Yes they work but you have get a convert module because the scarlet is thinner than the epic!

[Häakon]

For those who were at IBC, do you know if it's possible to ditch the CF module on the side of the camera and just use the thin "1 space" CF module that can be clamped to the back? It looks like the one on the side has gotten pretty bulky and I'd love to just add some non-significant depth to the camera instead. Thanks.

[nick allsop]

will there be the option to have false colour and edge highlights on separate assignable buttons? At the moment they are both in colour so it's one or the other.
And will frame guides and time code be able to go through HDSDI when both the EVF and LCD are in use. It's a pain having to tape off LCD directors monitors.
These are 2 things i'm really hoping the Epic will do.

[Joseph Ward]

where is that OT movie?

http://gallery.me.com/offhollywood#gallery

http://gallery.me.com/offhollywood#100039&bgcolor=black&view=grid


In addition to the increased number of monitor outputs, EPIC will also surpass the flexibility of RED ONE in regard to what combinations of monitor signal are available on each of those outputs.

Specific details later.....

Stereoscopic EVF!

[zeroteck]

Just a quick question... I was wondering if the batteries and Hd's from the R1 will be compatible with the epic?

[Brad Webb]

Just a quick question... I was wondering if the batteries and Hd's from the R1 will be compatible with the epic?

What do you think this is Canon? Of course they will be compatible with the epic.

[zeroteck]

Pictures look insane btw. . . thanks for sharing.
Jim is definitely a living ledgend.

[zeroteck]

Thanks... Heard from someone that they might not. Jus clearing it up for me.

[Joe Kleber]

For those who were at IBC, do you know if it's possible to ditch the CF module on the side of the camera and just use the thin "1 space" CF module that can be clamped to the back? It looks like the one on the side has gotten pretty bulky and I'd love to just add some non-significant depth to the camera instead. Thanks.

I'm curious about this also. ...definitely the way I would go. That CF module/EVF port looks like it's gonna get in the way of my big head when I go HH. :blushing:

Actually... instead, I'd like to see an optional plate for this side of the camera that would accommodate various accessories. ...such as a left-side REDhandle mabye? :001_tt2:

[Jeffrey Dimanche]

Here is the link to Esquire's Sexiest Women of 2009 shot on RED EPIC!!!!

http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/freshdv/story/red_epic_esquire_sexiest/

Tell me what you think.

[Imran Farouk]

Ummm that's wrong...it's the R1 with the new sensor at 4.5K , it's on recon. The new chip for epic only comes in a few weeks time...

[Wouter V Gestel]

I have posted my pics on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/11097698@N02/sets/72157622354476684/). They don't really show the camera that well, but you can see how crowded it was, just after the presentation. The camera looks awesome.

Jim, thanks for your presentation. I enjoyed it a lot.

[TimWitte]

For those who were at IBC, do you know if it's possible to ditch the CF module on the side of the camera and just use the thin "1 space" CF module that can be clamped to the back? It looks like the one on the side has gotten pretty bulky and I'd love to just add some non-significant depth to the camera instead. Thanks.

I was at the IBC and Jarred said that you could remove the side CF module and use a CF module on the back, so you could mount two Epics closer to each other for stereoscopic shooting.

[C.H.Haskell]

Jim and team...very excited and impressed of what is to come in the future of RED. Cheers.

[Vico Martin]

Amazing!!!... now build, build, build!!!

Congrats!

[Häakon]

I was at the IBC and Jarred said that you could remove the side CF module and use a CF module on the back, so you could mount two Epics closer to each other for stereoscopic shooting.
Nice. Just wondering where the EVF/LCD will attach then. But that is great to hear.

[Stuart English]

Nice. Just wondering where the EVF/LCD will attach then. But that is great to hear.

If you don't use a side CF module, there is also an EVF / LCD output available on the PRO I/O Module......

[Häakon]

If you don't use a side CF module, there is also an EVF / LCD output available on the PRO I/O Module......
Good to know. The pro I/O module looks huge and would defeat the purpose of removing the side CF module (I remember there used to be an LCD port on the top of the unit itself, but this may have changed). Still, nice to have at least a couple of options.

[Jannard]

Haakon... there can be a ton of modules that do whatever you want. We are all ears.

Jim

[Ryan Valle]

Haakon... there can be a ton of modules that do whatever you want. We are all ears.

Jim

How about a module that prints out money :)

[unik]

How about a module that prints out money :)

2D - money would be more than fine ... in 4.5k batches :)

[David Limpus]

A camera control module with iris motor interface that streams to a realtime decoder that outputs to broadcast standards for multi camera OB event. Image control along the lines of a Sony MSU-950 and RCP-750. Maybe usable for on the fly colour looks onset without sneaker net to DIT.

[Häakon]

Haakon... there can be a ton of modules that do whatever you want. We are all ears.

Jim
Thanks, Jim. I'll shoot you a message with the kind of setup I would be interested in seeing.

It's so nice to have the means to actually reach a company directly and make a difference - rather than having to wait 2 years for the "next model" and see if they decided to make the right changes or not.

[Stephen Webb]

Haakon... there can be a ton of modules that do whatever you want. We are all ears.

Jim

Wireless I/O module please.

Thanks.

[Karl Gustav H.]

Can the back CF and/or battery modules be flipped or mirrored?

II was thinking in terms of easy access for a side by side 3D rig.

[Imran Farouk]

Edit: nevermind, the cf card slot would easily be mirrored since it can be placed on either side of the cam probably

[Denis Buhot]

silly questions : how will red one cradle + batteries + hard disk adapt to Epic-X ? Matter of money, of course, but also the fact that on my red one, the whole thing was so modular I could use them to counterbalance the weight of very long/heavy lenses very efficiently...

[Steven Caesare]

silly questions : how will red one cradle + batteries + hard disk adapt to Epic-X ? Matter of money, of course, but also the fact that on my red one, the whole thing was so modular I could use them to counterbalance the weight of very long/heavy lenses very efficiently...

Red has already stated that a V-plate adapter to use the RED Brick batteris are possible. One of the renders had a brick mounted to the back side of a shoulder pad, ostensibly using an umbilical to an adapter, and balancing out the weight of the brain up front.

And a mock-up shows a RED-Drive/RAM clamped to a EPIC:
http://www.derylgroup.com/downloads/REDONE/REDUSER09/RED_Epic_01.jpg

Really, it should be trivial to have an EPIC/Scarlet module that can provide the ports necessary to use most of the previous accessories.

-sc

[Rick Presas]

Good lord.

If the epric can be that small that i'm really excited to see just how compact we'll be able to see the scarlet.

I'm ready and waiting to buy mine :)

[Jay A. Kelley]

Jim,

I have an idea for a module.. I hope no one gets mad at me for this:

About Modules that can record in different codecs? Say for instance a PROREZ module?

This way a CF card can be used and the camera can record DIRECTLY into the Clients Native Codec.

R3D is a wondeful codec, I am merely suggesting this for those people that would need to deliever footage to a client same day in a file format that would require no transcoding.

Of course the real power would be the ability to order the module, and select the codecs you want the ability to capture in.

I don' t know if this is a bad thought or not, but it sure would be useful when going after work that may not otherwise want to use a RED.

Jay

[Harry Lipnick]

Jim,

I have an idea for a module.. I hope no one gets mad at me for this:

About Modules that can record in different codecs? Say for instance a PROREZ module?

This way a CF card can be used and the camera can record DIRECTLY into the Clients Native Codec.

R3D is a wondeful codec, I am merely suggesting this for those people that would need to deliever footage to a client same day in a file format that would require no transcoding.

Of course the real power would be the ability to order the module, and select the codecs you want the ability to capture in.

I don' t know if this is a bad thought or not, but it sure would be useful when going after work that may not otherwise want to use a RED.

Jay

Great minds think alike: http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=26946
Peace,

-Harry

[Häakon]

The earlier prototypes had a flat top. Now I see a curved part on top. This makes it more complicated to mount a plate on top for steadicam low mode.
The prototypes have had the curved air vent for quite awhile now. Here's a picture from back in April when they showed the cameras in Vegas:

http://www.isvodkaphotos.com/photos/522404703_Zj8ut-M.jpg

The original CG renders had a flat top, so I'm sure they wouldn't be putting it there if it wasn't necessary. With lots of processing power comes a lot of heat!