Really stupid question

[Jack Wester]

As I'm not aware of the architecture of the RedOne, but I am a software engineer, this question may or may not be stupid.

Why not add a function on the RedOne that simply resamples the 2K or 4K footage to 1080 or 720 in the camera AFTER shooting in LESS than real time? Doesn't the RedOne has a CPU and primary memory and i/o access to the harddrive?

Why does capturing 1080 have to be done in real time if the issue is for the ENG cameraman to

1. deliver the harddrive
2. avoid having to process/convert footage in post (in RedCine)?

I'm sure that that would be better than to remove the "Cinema" in "Red Digital Cinema", right?

Joachim "Jack" Wester :clown2:

(I volontarly put a noob clown to my posts to ease any annoyance caused :-)

[Jack Wester]

If done in less than real time on camera, the quality of downsized 4K should be much better than windowed bits from the sensor. With nice antialiasing, the 1080 would look better any 1080 you ever seen (just look at the crispiest PNG graphics or a quality web site). And just have the resampling code delete the 4K file afterwords so that the ENG guys does not even have to see it.

[GlennChan]

You could potentially/theoretically shoot scaled 1080p footage and edit that right away (though you can do the same with 2k/1k/0.5k proxies extracted from 4K raw files). After you are done editing, you don't need another step in de-bayering the footage.

[donatello b]

"Why not add a function on the RedOne that simply resamples the 2K or 4K footage to 1080 "

now RED does this real time out the HD-SDI ..
question is - how good is the quality ?
if good ... if hi end client then you rent a codex recorder, wafian recorder and capture from REDS HD SDI either during shoot or at lunch and/or end of day ( use RED for playback) ...
if low end - then you either BUY or rent a AJA i/o and capture to mac's ProRes
again do it either lunch and/or at end of day ..

either way hi or low end the client gets a 1080p files and if they want they can also have a copy of 4k or 2k to CF /reddrive/redram ...

[I Bloom]

As I'm not aware of the architecture of the RedOne, but I am a software engineer, this question may or may not be stupid.

Why not add a function on the RedOne that simply resamples the 2K or 4K footage to 1080 or 720 in the camera AFTER shooting in LESS than real time? Doesn't the RedOne has a CPU and primary memory and i/o access to the harddrive?

Why does capturing 1080 have to be done in real time if the issue is for the ENG cameraman to

1. deliver the harddrive
2. avoid having to process/convert footage in post (in RedCine)?

I'm sure that that would be better than to remove the "Cinema" in "Red Digital Cinema", right?

Joachim "Jack" Wester :clown2:

(I volontarly put a noob clown to my posts to ease any annoyance caused :-)

Jack,

I like your idea, but I think you need to consider that during the time that the camera would be processing footage it would be unable to shoot and we wouldn't want an expensive camera body still out and powered up while we wait for it to convert footage. Instead we can do this at a later time, without the presence of the camera. Plus the complexity of implementing all the many format options in camera is daunting, I think its much smarter for REDCine to use the existing Quicktime conversion architecture.

IBloom

[Jack Wester]

Jack,
Instead we can do this at a later time, without the presence of the camera. Plus the complexity of implementing all the many format options in camera is daunting, I think its much smarter for REDCine to use the existing Quicktime conversion architecture.
IBloom
I agree. But as there is a discussion to get rid of full sensor overcranking to the potention of the camera to let people deliver footage to their clients with no post processing. I would just hate to see that happening.