Cooke S16 or Nikon glass

[Damien Molineaux]

Ok,

I have an offer for a Cooke 9-50 mm T3.1 S16 zoom. It's only S16 of course, but before upgrading to a Red zoom (hopefully), does anyone have experience with one of these and could comment on advantages & disadvantages compared to Nikon lenses, besides the obvious I'm limited to 2k. I'm looking at a Nikon 17-35. $2k for the Cooke vs $1k for the Nikon.

Cheers,
Damien

[Stephen Williams]

Ok,

I have an offer for a Cooke 9-50 mm T3.1 S16 zoom. It's only S16 of course, but before upgrading to a Red zoom (hopefully), does anyone have experience with one of these and could comment on advantages & disadvantages compared to Nikon lenses, besides the obvious I'm limited to 2k. I'm looking at a Nikon 17-35. $2k for the Cooke vs $1k for the Nikon.

Cheers,
Damien

Hi Damien,

Firstly the 9-50mm is a 16mm lens from 1975 not S16. The S16 version is the famous 10.4-52mm lens, used in "The Draughtsman’s Contract".

If is covers the 2k image it would IMHO be far better than Nikon Glass, as it is not a S16 lens $2k is possibly a little steep from a private seller.

Stephen a big fan of Cooke glass!

Edit Does it have a PL mount? If not a proper Cooke to Pl mount is needed, don't settle for an Arri Std to PL adapter, the FFD won't stay accurate enough and you could end up with soft shots.

[Damien Molineaux]

Hi Stephen,

Thanks for your input. Well that settles it, I hadn't checked yet, not S16, won't cut it. Well I'm keeping my eyes and ears open for a good solution.

Cheers,
Damien

[Stephen Williams]

Hi Stephen,

Thanks for your input. Well that settles it, I hadn't checked yet, not S16, won't cut it. Well I'm keeping my eyes and ears open for a good solution.

Cheers,
Damien

Hi Damien,

S16 lenses are more expensive, probably from $5000 - $10,000.

Stephen

[donatello b]

you should be able to have a cooke 9-50 converted to S16 ( 10.4-52) - guessing $2500US ( same with zeiss 10-100 T2 lens= 12-120 T2.4 after conversion... if zeiss made them 11-110 T2.2) ...

if you are shooting in S16 mode then 10mm is a wide lens ... 17mm would be more around a normal lens ...

[Stephen Williams]

you should be able to have a cooke 9-50 converted to S16 ( 10.4-52) - guessing $2500US ( same with zeiss 10-100 T2 lens= 12-120 T2.4 after conversion... if zeiss made them 11-110 T2.2) ...

if you are shooting in S16 mode then 10mm is a wide lens ... 17mm would be more around a normal lens ...

Hi,

At that price, its worth thinking about IMHO. Cooke were offering to convert the 18-100 to S16, the price for the conversion to a customers lens was £8500! I can't see it that option on their web site at the moment.

Stephen

[Damien Molineaux]

you should be able to have a cooke 9-50 converted to S16 ( 10.4-52) - guessing $2500US ( same with zeiss 10-100 T2 lens= 12-120 T2.4 after conversion... if zeiss made them 11-110 T2.2) ...

if you are shooting in S16 mode then 10mm is a wide lens ... 17mm would be more around a normal lens ...

Interesting, thanks for the info Donatello. Do you know who does this type of conversion ?

I'm vers interested in this option as I plan to use Red quite a lot for ENG/EFP and documentaries shot abroad. I want an all around lens and 2k raw will give me 4x as much shooting time on a Red drive and the footage is for HD (and SD) distribution.

Cheers,
Damien

[donatello b]

conversion for cook 9-50 & zeiss 10-100
http://www.visualproducts.com/services03.asp?ID=94&Cat=92
http://www.seriousgear.com/viewProduct.php?id=53

OPTEX in england use to do them but i think they are out of business ?

"Cooke were offering to convert the 18-100 to S16"

the 18-100 is a HUGE lens compared to S16 lens but conversion make it very fast lens ( stop) ... you loose mobilty vs. 16mm lens

[Jim Exton]

Visual Products is showing a Zeiss super 16mm conversion lens for $6900. Might be something to look into.