View Full Version : uh-ohhhh...
Keith Alan Morris
08-20-2007, 09:52 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/08/20/artificial.life.ap/index.html
Casey Green
08-20-2007, 10:10 PM
scary stuff.
IAN SUN
08-20-2007, 10:33 PM
I for one welcome our new synthetic overlords.
Shawn Nelson
08-20-2007, 10:41 PM
Oh gosh, give me a break. I'm CS by degree and even took a term of grad level AI. What we see in the movies is pure myth, they will never be able to truly create intelligence, just progressively more impressive impersonations
Cail Young
08-21-2007, 02:35 AM
The secret to the Mysterium chip has been exposed!
Jeremy Hughes
08-21-2007, 06:44 AM
The secret to the Mysterium chip has been exposed!
It's Steve Gibby's DNA!:w00t:
But seriously, I have to agree with you on this one Shawn.
Jeff Kilgroe
08-21-2007, 07:19 AM
Oh gosh, give me a break. I'm CS by degree and even took a term of grad level AI. What we see in the movies is pure myth, they will never be able to truly create intelligence, just progressively more impressive impersonations
I wouldn't say never... We're also not talking about intelligence here, but artificially created cells that are capable of self-replication and development into an organism. Not too far off, several research groups have been on the verge of this for some time now.
I don't know why people find this stuff scary. It's all about exploring and understanding our world and universe and life in general. And let's not degenerate this into a discussion on religion, morals or other beliefs.
Jason Murphy
08-21-2007, 07:21 AM
This has nothing to do with computers or AI, and everything to do with synthetically creating living cells. I could care less about Skynet; I'm much more concerned that someone will end up creating a single cell organism like a bacterium that replicates ridiculously quickly and ends up being very infectious. But even the probability of that is really low, if they can't currently make a single cell that's viable for over an hour.
Desert Rune
08-21-2007, 08:11 AM
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/skeptical-cat-is-fraught-with-skepticism.jpg
Shawn Nelson
08-21-2007, 08:20 AM
And let's not degenerate this into a discussion on religion, morals or other beliefs.
Lol, but Jeff, that's what this is. That like trying to have a conversation about why the sky is blue and then you saying "let's not degenerate this into a discusssion on optics, physics, or other scientific ideas"
The quest for AI comes down to whether you believe life is a sacred spark, or whether we are nothing more than a big mound of cells that happen to be working together in such a way that lets us think differently. If you think the former, then AI is never possible. If the latter, then we could eventually get there, but it could take another few million years ;-)
chuck colburn
08-21-2007, 11:06 AM
I know several big mounds of cells that are about as smart as a bag of hammers. Nice folks though...
Gavin Greenwalt
08-21-2007, 03:45 PM
Kickass! I have a running $250 bet with a friend bet that we'd create create a living cell in a lab within 30 years.
Go Scientists Go! Daddy needs a new pair of shoes.
ericyoung
08-21-2007, 04:53 PM
I wouldn't say never... We're also not talking about intelligence here, but artificially created cells that are capable of self-replication and development into an organism. Not too far off, several research groups have been on the verge of this for some time now.
I don't know why people find this stuff scary. It's all about exploring and understanding our world and universe and life in general. And let's not degenerate this into a discussion on religion, morals or other beliefs.
""When these things are created, they're going to be so weak, it'll be a huge achievement if you can keep them alive for an hour in the lab," he said. "But them getting out and taking over, never in our imagination could this happen." Mark Bedau
I'm not against research, but this sounds a lot like famous last words. Or Mr Bedau is a singularly unimaginative person!
Just like the scientists who thought nuclear was the answer to all our energy problems, the guys who thought The Bomb would never be used, the ones who thought asbestos was the miracle building material, the UK based researchers in maximum quarantine facilities that accidentally released foot and mouth, TB was beaten, thalidomide was safe, DDT would eradicate malaria, GM pollen wouldn't drift with the wind (duh!) to fertilise adjacent farms, there's nothing wrong about self-destruct seeds, list goes on.
Most scientists probably have pure motives, but the pursuit of answers without thought of consequences is quite common, and their paymasters may have different agendas. Still tobacco is good for you, didn't you know? :nuke:
Keith Alan Morris
08-22-2007, 08:46 PM
But even the probability of that is really low, if they can't currently make a single cell that's viable for over an hour.
Darkman did it...
Craig Bowman
08-22-2007, 09:23 PM
http://snurdo.com/images/life.jpg
I've done it! I've created LIFE! Now to shoot it in 4K!
ericyoung
08-23-2007, 02:03 AM
:spidy:
http://snurdo.com/images/life.jpg
I've done it! I've created LIFE! Now to shoot it in 4K!
LOL! :spidy:
number6
08-23-2007, 05:33 AM
Soon as the camera is completed, maybe the Red Team can work on creating life from component parts. Red can do anything.
jaadgy akanni
08-23-2007, 08:04 AM
I'd like a clone of myself. This time around I'd raise me well.
Keith Alan Morris
08-23-2007, 09:09 AM
I'd like a clone of myself. This time around I'd raise me well.
awwwww....
Mark B.
08-23-2007, 10:36 AM
AI is just logic, probability, and sensors. There's no reason that AI systems couldn't be developed within the next hundred years.
Nathan Buxton
08-23-2007, 11:13 AM
This does have nothing to do with artificial intelligence, but good point.