Pro I/O Module vs Base I/O Module

[Tom Gleeson]

What is the difference between the Pro I/O Module vs Base I/O Module for the Epic? I cant find any technical details on these modules or any of the others. Does this info. presently exist and if so where the hell is it? Thankyou

[Jason Ramsey]

Well, this isn't going to be everything, but here is a post from Jarred that might help you a bit:


The biggest difference is Audio.. The Pro I/O has Digital Audio inputs, Plus it has full size XLR Audio Outputs ( no audio output on the base I/O ), and an additional AUX power output.

[Kevin Wild]

I'd be interested in knowing this, too. RED has done a fabulous deal for Stage 2, but the way I see it, 95% of people are going to want the Pro I/O module. So, why put the base module in that package? Honestly, I would rather pay an additional upgrade fee to bypass getting the base module and instead get the pro module. I wonder if RED is considering this?

All of this is said with very limited information on the differences between the two. Maybe someone from RED can clarify a bit. I would just hate the total waste that will be caused if they send out 3,000 base modules as part of that package that don't get used.

[Russ Fill]

I agree, I have a couple of things that never get use from my base R1 pkg that just sit and collect dust. (that base plate that was never to be used as a base plate)

So Red folks, how about just saving us all the time and you all the dumb questions of "can I trade my base mod for the pro mod and pay the diff"

[Andrew clemson]

"can I trade my base mod for the pro mod and pay the diff"

That would seem to be a sensible option.

[Jean Wallez]

Is there an HDSDI output on the base I/O module?

[Curran Giddens]

Here is what I have gathered so far. All is subject to change...


Pro I/O Module $2950
The PRO I/O module will support up to 4 channels of AES-EBU digital audio and will be compatible with mixers like the Sound Devices 552.

The maximum number of recorded audio channels is 4, so enabling two or four AES-EBU inputs disables the corresponding analog audio input(s).

The Base I/O Module does not include the AES-EBU digital audio inputs. There is a Word Clock out pin in the same connector that ingests the AES/EBU digital audio.

Single and dual link HD-SDI with Full size BNC.
Full size XLR Audio Outputs
Full size XLR Audio Inputs
Two Aux power/GPIO ports.
Lens/RS232
Timecode input/output.




Base I/O Module $1750
Single and dual link HD-SDI with Full size BNC.
Mini-XLR Audio Inputs
One Aux power/GPIO
Lens/RS232
Timecode input/output.

No audio output on the Base I/O module.

[Robert Berger]

That would seem to be a sensible option.

can I trade my base mod for the pro mod and pay the diff"
I prefer that too!!

Robert M. Berger NSC
RED ONE 1265

[Cüneyt Kaya]

Here is what I have gathered so far.


Pro I/O Module $2950
The PRO I/O module will support up to 4 channels of AES-EBU digital audio and will be compatible with mixers like the Sound Devices 552.

The maximum number of recorded audio channels is 4, so enabling two or four AES-EBU inputs disables the corresponding analog audio input(s).

The Base I/O Module does not include the AES-EBU digital audio inputs. There is a Word Clock out pin in the same connector that ingests the AES/EBU digital audio.

Single and dual link HD-SDI with Full size BNC.
Full size XLR Audio Outputs
Full size XLR Audio Inputs
Two Aux power/GPIO ports.
Lens/RS232
Timecode input/output.




Base I/O Module $1750
Single and dual link HD-SDI with Full size BNC.
Mini-XLR Audio Inputs
One Aux power/GPIO
Lens/RS232
Timecode input/output.

No audio output on the Base I/O module.

i vote for upgrade option.

i never used the baseplate too. i only use the arris style baseplate.
but i think that a lot of people will be happy to just get the base I/O, remember, the modules are for scarlet and epic and not everybody is doing high end stuff.

[Andrew Walker]

Sounds like the base I/O module is very similar to the RED One. Unless I'm missing something.

[Tom Gleeson]

Does no "Audio out" mean no headphone monitoring of audio while recording or no XLR output?

[Curran Giddens]

Well, at least there is always the headphone output on the Brain.

[Ivan Cortazar]

Sounds like the base I/O module is very similar to the RED One. Unless I'm missing something.

With the Redone you get 2 GPIO connectors. I wonder if there is another on in the brain, so then it'd be the same.

[Jason Ramsey]

"can I trade my base mod for the pro mod and pay the diff"

It's called sell it to someone else and use that money to upgrade :)

I don't think folks should get spoiled by the fact that RED is allowing full trade-in on RED One's towards EPIC X.. They are taking care of their early customers and making sure they are brought under the umbrella of "obsolescence obsolete" that they originally stated back in the days of the RED One.

But, if they start allowing everyone to trade in modules and brains and such to upgrade to the latest version(s), they'll likely go broke, and there won't be a company for us to buy stuff from :)

later,
Jason

[Stephen Pruitt]

One AES input will not be sufficient. The SD 788T, one of the standards for double-system recording these days, outputs only two channels of digital audio per AES cable. Thus, to get four channels into the camera, it would take two AES inputs.

Stephen

[Stuart English]

The PRO I/O does provide two AES/EBU inputs... plus Word Clock out.

[Matt Uhry]

The PRO I/O does provide two AES/EBU inputs... plus Word Clock out.

Could we get an answer on paying extra and getting a Pro I/O in the stage 1 and 2 packages. I'm not interested in the base I/O.... and could I get a side order of wheat toast ?

From "Five Easy Pieces" for your enjoyement...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wtfNE4z6a8

Matt Uhry
www.mattuhry.com

[Stephen Pruitt]

Yes. . . I'm not interested in the standard I/O module, either. The inability to output a digital audio signal to the RED One is a significant shortcoming I'm glad to see being addressed with the Epic.

And I'm glad to see that it will have to AES3 inputs. I'm just sorry we're limited to a total of four tracks. It would have been great to send it eight.

Stephen

[Sven Seynaeve]

8channels enabled would have been nicer...

Don't know why Red didn't , because imho it wouldn't have made a big difference in design and processing demand.

[Frank Weeks]

Could we get an answer on paying extra and getting a Pro I/O in the stage 1 and 2 packages. I'm not interested in the base I/O.... and could I get a side order of wheat toast ?

I believe Red will make this option available to those interested. Many will opt for the upgrade.


From "Five Easy Pieces" for your enjoyement...

Love that scene

[Paul Hazlett]

since I doubt the first batch will reach down my way @ 1350 i would like to have the pro I/O for group 2 as an option as well

[James Brundige]

It's called sell it to someone else and use that money to upgrade :)

I don't think folks should get spoiled by the fact that RED is allowing full trade-in on RED One's towards EPIC X.. They are taking care of their early customers and making sure they are brought under the umbrella of "obsolescence obsolete" that they originally stated back in the days of the RED One.

But, if they start allowing everyone to trade in modules and brains and such to upgrade to the latest version(s), they'll likely go broke, and there won't be a company for us to buy stuff from :)

later,
Jason

No one is talking about trading in the base i/o. The suggestion is that we be allowed to purchase the pro i/o for the difference in price. There is no cost to Red to do this, and lots of demand, so I hope (and suspect) that it will happen. It makes sense not to manufacture a bunch of modules that will sit on shelves. That's wasteful and does not help either Red or Red users.

[Gavin Greenwalt]

Hahaha. I kind of hope RED doesn't offer that deal. I'll be one of the hordes lined up to try and cash in on a discount Base I/O deal from REDOne Customers.

[George Tsai]

Now from what i gather there is digital 4 channel input on the pro module. what about the analog? is there 4 xlr inputs as well? fitting all that would make this module quite large unless they limit it to two xlr inputs.

[Juhan Malmstein]

Hahaha. I kind of hope RED doesn't offer that deal. I'll be one of the hordes lined up to try and cash in on a discount Base I/O deal from REDOne Customers.

You're not alone, I'd be happy to compliment my fixed 8x Scarlet with a base audio module so I wouldn't need a boom operator with a tascam that runs out of 8 batteries at a time usually at the worst possible moment :blush:

[alexjems41]

The Pro Tools I/O Module provides eight channels of digital audio input and output for the ADA-8 or ADA 8XR in a form compatible with Digidesign Pro Tools 24|MIX workstations.
The Pro Tools I/O Module enables the ADA-8 and ADA-8XR to replace Digidesign 888|24 or 882 interfaces, providing superior audio performance and extra features.

[Mark Pedersen]

I'd be interested in knowing this, too. RED has done a fabulous deal for Stage 2, but the way I see it, 95% of people are going to want the Pro I/O module. So, why put the base module in that package? Honestly, I would rather pay an additional upgrade fee to bypass getting the base module and instead get the pro module. I wonder if RED is considering this?

All of this is said with very limited information on the differences between the two. Maybe someone from RED can clarify a bit. I would just hate the total waste that will be caused if they send out 3,000 base modules as part of that package that don't get used.

Here here! Epic's a pro camera. If we want the Pro I/O Module, I can't see why RED wouldn't allow us to do that!

M

[Jay A. Kelley]

I agree with this 100%

Jay