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John Wee
08-23-2007, 05:42 AM
SONY INTRODUCES ENTRY LEVEL SHOULDER-MOUNT PROFESSIONAL HDV CAMCORDER

New Model Delivers HD Performance and Flexibility to a Wider Range of Shooters

PARK RIDGE, N.J., Aug. 22, 2007 – Sony is introducing an entry-level professional HDV™ camcorder with a shoulder-mount design, bringing the benefits of HD production to a wider range of users.

The new HVR-HD1000U model is targeted toward wedding videographers, freelancers and educational video creators, offering them more versatility and more opportunities for generating business with a moderately priced camera.

“Our professional HDV camcorders are designed to offer customers high-definition shooting capability, along with maximum revenue-generating opportunities at a modest investment,” said Bob Ott, vice president of marketing for professional video products at Sony Electronics. “With its shoulder-mount design, this new camera brings affordable HD capabilities to a broader range of pro shooters.”

The HVR-HD1000U model supports both the HDV and the standard-definition DV formats. In DV mode, the unit can work exclusively as a DV camcorder, allowing users to maintain their current DV workflow without any disruptions. When needed, the camcorder can be instantly switched to high-definition mode.

The HDV format allows users to shoot approximately 60 minutes of HD video on a 6mm cassette tape. Sony’s highest-quality 6mm videotape, DigitalMaster™, is the recommended professional media for HDV applications. These 63-minute cassettes (model PHDVM63DM) use Sony’s AME (Advanced Metal Evaporated) II technology and features dual-active magnetic layers.

The new camcorder also has several down-conversion modes that output converted standard-definition signals to users’ current SD production systems, including displays and DV non-linear editing systems, while retaining an HD master tape for future use.

The camcorder adapts to a wide range of shooting situations and features a high-end Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonner T* 10x optical zoom lens to help reduce reflection. The Super SteadyShot™ (optical) feature of the unit is an image stabilizer using an active optical lens method that helps avoid any deterioration in image quality. The lens itself shifts vertically and horizontally to compensate for the polarized light axis in real-time.

The HVR-HD1000U camcorder uses Sony’s 1/2.9-inch ClearVid™ CMOS sensor system with its unique pixel layout rotated 45 degrees to provide higher resolution and sensitivity.

The camcorder’s photo creation functions can produce photo data for DVD jacket designs, website content, news, photo albums and other applications.

Users can capture up to 6.1 mega-pixel still images in Photo mode. In addition, it can capture up to 4.6 mega-pixel still images even while HD video is being recorded. For added flexibility, the new camera can capture still images from any moment of HDV recording in print-ready quality of up to 1.2 mega-pixels.

The camcorder also has a new configuration with an LCD monitor and an electronic view finder (EVF). The LCD monitor is in front of the camera operator when the camcorder is shoulder-mounted, and it is attached to the EVF level. This unique layout enables traditional EVF monitoring, as well as LCD monitoring for the operator even while the camcorder is held on the shoulder.

“The 180-degree tilt mechanism allows for LCD monitoring when the camcorder is held in a high- or low-angle position,” Ott said. “The 360-degree swivel mechanism will allow LCD monitoring from the front, right or even left of the camcorder so that a reporter or a director can monitor what is being captured by the camcorder.”

The “Smooth Slow Rec” function allows users to perform slow-motion playback by capturing images at four times faster than the normal field rate (240 fields/s). In this mode, quad-speed images are captured for three seconds, stored in the camcorder’s built-in buffer memory, and then recorded to tape (in either the HDV, DVCAM™, or DV formats) as slow-motion pictures lasting 12 seconds. When using this function, Ott said the resolution of the camera image is decreased.

The Super NightShot™ function of the new model uses a built-in infrared light emitter to record objects in zero lux light levels and to allow night-time monitoring and surveillance.

A multi-function assignable lens ring is located on the lens unit, and any one of the following functions can be assigned to the ring for easy adjustment: focus (default), zoom, brightness, shutter, auto exposure shift and white balance shift.

Other features include up to 10 hours operation using an optional NP-F970 battery, a range of digital I/O (HDMI, i.LINK®, USB, Memory Stick Duo™ slot), supplied external stereo microphone (ECM-PS1), and a multi-language menu.

The HVR-HD1000U camcorder is planned to be available in December, at a suggested list price of less than $1,900.


http://news.sel.sony.com/en/press_ro...ase/31159.html


I think, maybe someone got the pricing wrong or this is just a CONSUMER SONY CAM ON STEROIDS, with all those non manual controls. Regardless, time to look all serious and pro for cheap. Some gaffer tape should do the job of covering up the "HDV" logo. :ph34r:

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/08/8-23-07-hvr-hd1000u.jpg

number6
08-23-2007, 05:48 AM
Ho hum... sounds great etc. snozzzzzzz

Robert Mott
08-23-2007, 06:06 AM
It looks like they took the DSR-200 and stuck a cmos chip in it and began recording on HDV.

RKM

Jeremy Hughes
08-23-2007, 07:03 AM
It's the same sensor as the HDR-SR7. Just to note.

Fix
08-23-2007, 07:48 AM
interesting they call it "PROFESSIONAL HDV CAMCORDER". No HD channel allow extensive amounts of HDV footage. Nice cam anyways though for that price! There is no info about XLR ports. If there is any chance of using firestore and record 4:2:2 than it really is a "PROFESSIONAL HD CAMCORDER".
I wounder.

John Wee
08-23-2007, 07:55 AM
if i have to guess, this camera and the XDCAM ex would be revealed more during IBC in few weeks

Bruce Allen
08-23-2007, 10:10 AM
interesting they call it "PROFESSIONAL HDV CAMCORDER". No HD channel allow extensive amounts of HDV footage. Nice cam anyways though for that price! There is no info about XLR ports. If there is any chance of using firestore and record 4:2:2 than it really is a "PROFESSIONAL HD CAMCORDER".
I wounder.

1. I think it's for weddings / low-end corporate vids - low-end wedding pro videographers / corporate vid people still count as pros
2. probably no XLR but you can add a Beachtek adapter to give it pro-level audio for cheap (if the DACs are decent and line inputs not too noisy)
3. no chance of 4:2:2
4. really cute for the price. Someone could use a PAL one and with a decent de-interlace in post make a nice little 25p short or something...
5. I prefer an HV20 with 35mm adapter, which costs around the same

Camcorderinfo has more of an opinion
http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Sony-Drops-the-Bottom-on-Pro-HDV-Camcorders-with-the-HVR-HD1000U-33224.htm

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

planet e
08-23-2007, 10:48 AM
from the camcorderinfo article:

"This includes the wedding market and, rarely cited but quietly acknowledged, the adult video market."

oh, i get it, pornographers want a more professional-looking camera. makes total sense.

Fix
08-23-2007, 11:01 AM
1. I think it's for weddings / low-end corporate vids - low-end wedding pro videographers / corporate vid people still count as pros
2. probably no XLR but you can add a Beachtek adapter to give it pro-level audio for cheap (if the DACs are decent and line inputs not too noisy)
3. no chance of 4:2:2
4. really cute for the price. Someone could use a PAL one and with a decent de-interlace in post make a nice little 25p short or something...
5. I prefer an HV20 with 35mm adapter, which costs around the same

Camcorderinfo has more of an opinion
http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Sony-Drops-the-Bottom-on-Pro-HDV-Camcorders-with-the-HVR-HD1000U-33224.htm

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

hm some bold statments for sutch a new product :gun:.

1. yes it is made for "entry-level professionals.". That is "wedding videographers, freelancers, and educational video creators,". Wedding and educational video creators thumbs up. Freelance.. ouch IMHO.

2. probably no XLR? They haven't stated what kind of mic inputs as for yet. What we do know is that the professional division by sony is behind the camera. I do think that counts for something, and do mind "entry-level professionals." So who knows. These are strange days after all.

3. 4:2:2 no chance? Are you sure about that? Im yust saying there should be possible to reroot some other way. HDMI for instance. There are options around the corner that even HV20 can do 4:2:2.

4. Where did they state its a 50/60i only camera. Why not progressive?

5. I haven't tried HV20 yet. But it sounds like a great little camera indeed. It could be possible HV20 even beat HVR-HD1000U in picture preformence of what I have read so far...

somehow exciting cam.. but to big for my use.

Fix
08-23-2007, 11:03 AM
oh, i get it, pornographers want a more professional-looking camera. makes total sense.

aaaahh! It makes all sense now :)

Petr Dvorak
08-23-2007, 12:43 PM
bigger pic
http://www.ubergizmo.com/photos/2007/8/sony-hvr-hd1000u_large.jpg

or huge one at http://dvinfo.net/conf/attachment.php?attachmentid=4144&d=1187875718

Bruce Allen
08-23-2007, 01:04 PM
2. probably no XLR? They haven't stated what kind of mic inputs as for yet. What we do know is that the professional division by sony is behind the camera. I do think that counts for something, and do mind "entry-level professionals." So who knows. These are strange days after all.

Very true. They might include XLR. What I meant to say was that even if there is no XLR, it's not a big problem as long as the audio signal chain is good - you can use a Beachtek adapter.


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3. 4:2:2 no chance? Are you sure about that? Im yust saying there should be possible to reroot some other way. HDMI for instance. There are options around the corner that even HV20 can do 4:2:2.

That was in response to someone saying you can "use a firestore and record 4:2:2"?!? That's not how a Firestore works. Via HDMI, yes you could get 4:2:2 (as you can with any HD cam with HDMI out).



4. Where did they state its a 50/60i only camera. Why not progressive?

Probably because it's based on the HDR-SR7 sensor, which is not progressive AFAIK. Okay, the HV20 was based on the HV10 sensor, but that was a definitely progressive sensor to start with.



5. I haven't tried HV20 yet. But it sounds like a great little camera indeed. It could be possible HV20 even beat HVR-HD1000U in picture preformence of what I have read so far...

I don't believe everything I read on Camcorderinfo - but so far the the sensor of the HV10 / HV20 seems better than that of the HDR-SR7.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

Dave Cooper
08-23-2007, 01:44 PM
This is actually a good idea. The price really makes it.

Fix
08-23-2007, 02:08 PM
That was in response to someone saying you can "use a firestore and record 4:2:2"?!? That's not how a Firestore works. Via HDMI, yes you could get 4:2:2 (as you can with any HD cam with HDMI out).

Ok I got to swallow those words. You are absolutly right about that. I guess it was a bad example from my side.

Erik Bien
08-23-2007, 02:10 PM
Somebody please make a FireStore/CitiDisc-type gizmo that takes HDMI in and records 4:2:2 with a visually-lossless wavelet-based codec ... I'll wait ...

Rocco Schult
08-23-2007, 02:23 PM
No HD channel allow extensive amounts of HDV footage.

If you deliver that on HDcam they likely won't notice. DV is not allowed on many SD channels [Europe] too and still its being intercut in the holy show...

Petr Dvorak
08-23-2007, 05:19 PM
...it MUST be a joke, but I'm afraid it isn't. Sony just wants to milk the tired old HDV cow as much as possible before it's put out to pasture forever.

:bye2:

yep :biggrin:

Joe Carney
08-23-2007, 08:17 PM
Just say no to interlaced cameras. ugh.

Mark Mannschreck
08-23-2007, 10:17 PM
4. Where did they state its a 50/60i only camera. Why not progressive?


1080i is printed on the side of the camera

Andrew Benz
08-23-2007, 11:10 PM
At just a quick glance I was thinking of Sony marketing directly to the Accountants.

Bmoreshaun
08-23-2007, 11:44 PM
Actually, I think it's probably Sony's long awaited anwser into the low end pro(prosumer) market...The JVC GY-HD100U took a big bite out of Sonys ass when they offered a pro shoulder mount HDV Camcorder for under $5000...Now no need to dig out $5k to look pro(even if it is interlaced)...Good marketing stratigy(even if I don't go and sell my JVCs)...Go Sony:)...

Andrew Benz
08-24-2007, 12:17 AM
Actually, I think it's probably Sony's long awaited anwser into the low end pro(prosumer) market...

Well yes and no, Sony has always been there with their "dustbuster" form factor cams (no disrespect intended) in this market ( as well as canon and panny and I love them for that "access for us" starting ten years ago w/ mini dv --- just not an hdv, shoulder mount equivalent.


[/QUOTE]The JVC GY-HD100U took a big bite out of Sonys ass when they offered a pro shoulder mount HDV Camcorder for under $5000...Now no need to dig out $5k to look pro(even if it is interlaced)...Good marketing stratigy(even if I don't go and sell my JVCs)...Go Sony:)...[/QUOTE]

Haha... absolutely B, and that was my point... see the JVC GY-HD100U impressed guys like Head Engineers at Local Affiliates all over the states for their solid tape based workflows, etc. Then the GM's took notice because of the price points and ability to use cheaper eng glass, etc... this in turn got many VP's that were the head of the Accounting Depts. on board in a big way... hence "Marketing to Accountants". I have seen it played out a dozen times... "no, it shoots 720p, if we invest in this legacy we will be good for when we have to go HD"... But most of us here all understand that not all 720p is created equal nor the codecs -- their are many caveats.. but the head of the Accounting Dept. does not have a clue... Also, compared to the old Sony BetaSP Paradigm, this strategy seems to be a no brainer right? But once again we know there are caveats with each standard. Just my two cents...

Cheers B,

Andrew

Mark Thorpe
08-24-2007, 12:23 AM
from the camcorderinfo article: oh, i get it, pornographers want a more professional-looking camera. makes total sense. Well its also a size issue, especially in that industry :tongue:

Cheers,
Mark.

Emanuel A.
08-24-2007, 02:34 AM
4. Where did they state its a 50/60i only camera. Why not progressive?
1080i is printed on the side of the cameraBut this does mean nothing at all! 1080i can have 24p w/ pull down, for instance.

Joe Carney
08-24-2007, 07:48 AM
But this does mean nothing at all! 1080i can have 24p w/ pull down, for instance.


With loss of resolution, plus the extra time it takes to convert in the first place.

Matt Garrett
08-24-2007, 08:31 AM
just because of it's interlaced chipset.

Fix
08-24-2007, 12:25 PM
I think Sony make a big misstake if they leave out progressive chip on this cam. They want this camera to enter professional level. Now in HD world that basicly means 1080i and 720p. 1080p is cinema blu-ray/HD-DVD.

Making a progressive chip is a no brainer for these guys. Or at least it should be.
progressive means twice the marked. Serious video enthusiasts tend to want progressive these days. Now thats they're marked IMO. Yust a thought.

Paul Plonka
08-24-2007, 01:27 PM
maybe later Sony will announce "very professional" model with "pro price"
(comparing with FX and Z1)...

Paul

Jared VanLeuven
08-24-2007, 03:43 PM
Can't interlacing die a quick death, at least for acquisition? I know we're stuck with it for broadcast, but frikkin...

John Wee
08-24-2007, 04:04 PM
What i want to see is HVX in a shoulder mounted format. Or the hpx 500 with a fixed lens with msrp $14k COMPLETE. Right now a complete hpx with canon eng non 2x cac (low end HD lens) runs at $22k. At that rate, the RED ONE clearly out values the hpx.

John Godden
09-20-2007, 08:55 PM
Oh just what is needed.............. another POS HDV plastic-fantastic camcorder. :shiftyph34r:

Craig W. Bickerstaff
09-20-2007, 10:33 PM
What a bunch of snobs, this could potentially be a really nice Doco or ENG camera.
And Yes I really think this will have XLR inputs.