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Jannard
08-25-2007, 04:01 PM
We have said for months that all features would NOT be enabled for the 1st cameras going out the door.

I would give you a complete list, but we continue to enable features as we prepare for this coming Friday.

We expect that all features will be done by early October. That means that if you get a camera before that date, you will receive a "present" every week that enables features as they become available.

You would open your email (or download from our website) a file that you transfer to a Compact Flash card. Insert the card and boot the camera. You will be asked if you want to "Upgrade your Firmware". You click "Yes". A minute later, you'll get a message that the update is complete. Reboot. Done.

We have spoken to all reservation holders for the 1st 25 cameras and they understand this. But your number may be coming up soon after so you should know.

You do have the option to wait until all features are enabled to take delivery at no consequence to you (if you have that much patience). We will hold your camera (same serial number) and ship when feature set is complete. So far, none of the 25 has chosen that option. But you can.

We won't know exactly how many features will be in or out of the 1st 25 until Thursday night. We will be testing and deciding until the last minute. Since things change everyday, what we say today will not mean much. I'm sure you will all hear about what is "in" and what is "coming" by Friday night.

Jim
"We are too dumb to know what not to do."

Poi Boy
08-25-2007, 04:08 PM
thanks Jim
Aloha
-A

Blair S. Paulsen
08-25-2007, 04:11 PM
Jim - I applaud your approach. Not "settling" has been a hallmark of this project throughout. See you Friday.

Keith Alan Morris
08-25-2007, 04:13 PM
nice! all features enabled by October!

"I believe we are fully operational!"
--the Emperor

luis bustamante
08-25-2007, 04:14 PM
Thanks for the update! Congratulations on making this a reality. We expect that a lot of the missing pieces of the puzzle will be revealed next friday so we won't ask anything else until then.

Again, thank you! See you in Amsterdam!

Justin Kirchhoff
08-25-2007, 04:17 PM
Appreciate the constant updates with such a huge week coming up. The RED team is doing an awesome job, like always.

Emanuel A.
08-25-2007, 04:27 PM
That «thursday night» part was/has been quite amusing indeed... :)

Jared VanLeuven
08-25-2007, 04:42 PM
Wow, what a week ahead. *tingle*

Häakon
08-25-2007, 05:00 PM
Sounds good to me. The obvious caveat is that you would need the compact flash adapter to do this, which I'm sure most will buy (I definitely will) - but you can't assume that everyone will be going with this option. Is there a way to update via USB if that feature is not installed?

Shawn Nelson
08-25-2007, 05:03 PM
As long as 4k @ 24fps and 1080p dual HD-SDI out and TC out is available, I shall be a happy man.

Emanuel A.
08-25-2007, 05:05 PM
As good point as good mod you are, Häak.


Sounds good to me. The obvious caveat is that you would need the compact flash adapter to do this, which I'm sure most will buy (I definitely will) - but you can't assume that everyone will be going with this option. Is there a way to update via USB if that feature is not installed?

Jannard
08-25-2007, 05:13 PM
We cannot imagine anyone not buying the CF module... but you'll have several ways to upload firmware besides CF.

Jim

Jens Jakob Thorsen
08-25-2007, 05:55 PM
Sounds good to me. The obvious caveat is that you would need the compact flash adapter to do this, which I'm sure most will buy (I definitely will) - but you can't assume that everyone will be going with this option. Is there a way to update via USB if that feature is not installed?

I would want to go with the 1,8" flash option as my camera is delivered in feb08 and I expect the 1,8" flash to be at least 32GB at that time and 64GB sometime soon thereafter
Is that a naive assumption and why are "most" people having the smaller CF
option installed?
Have I missed something(other than what people usually miss;-)
I will be using my RED for high end work i.e. commercials and features.

Best
Jens Jakob Thorsen DFF
Denmark

Jannard
08-25-2007, 05:59 PM
The 1.8" flash is certainly a good sounding alternative... but nothing has been produced yet that is fast enough. We can only assume at this point in time that this format will be a viable alternative. CF is known, it works, it is available, and CF development is certain.

Jim

Shawn Nelson
08-25-2007, 06:07 PM
Can't you get CF plug-in adapters for people to use other means of data out of the same Red Flash module?

Jens Jakob Thorsen
08-25-2007, 06:43 PM
The 1.8" flash is certainly a good sounding alternative... but nothing has been produced yet that is fast enough. We can only assume at this point in time that this format will be a viable alternative. CF is known, it works, it is available, and CF development is certain.

Jim

Ok I get the message. I´ll wait until jan08 to decide.
Maybe my camerabody will be made
out of a carbonated Einsteinium alloy, and my lenses made out of diamond.
Maybe I will never shoot 35mm again...
Thanks Jim

Best
Jens Jakob Thorsen DFF
Denmark

Curran Giddens
08-26-2007, 03:22 AM
We cannot imagine anyone not buying the CF module... but you'll have several ways to upload firmware besides CF.

Jim

I'm not buying the CF module since I won't be able to use it with the RAW port installed. I thought the RED-RAM was your favorite storage medium anyway. Now I feel like I'm missing out.... :bye2:

Martin Jäger
08-26-2007, 04:11 AM
Great! Any News About the possibility of 2k RAW at 100fps?

.. or any other format-news?


thanks
martin

Sanjin Jukic
08-26-2007, 05:59 AM
CF is the way to go.
All major DSLRs from Canon, Nikon, Leica, Sony, Fuji, Sigma etc...
are using CF cards. Also VIPER'S Grass Valley™ Venom FlashPak
a card module is based on CF. Arri D20 is using that dock-able module too.
So again to repeat: that's the way to go.

CF card module.

David Battistella
08-26-2007, 06:24 AM
Jim,

Thank you for posting this. I love the constant openness and professionalism coming from you and the RED team.

October is far sooner than I would have guessed. I can imagine too that the camera will only get better and better.

David

Curran Giddens
08-26-2007, 06:33 AM
CF is the way to go.
All major DSLRs from Canon, Nikon, Leica, Sony, Fuji, Sigma etc...
are using CF cards. Also VIPER'S Grass Valley™ Venom FlashPak
a card module is based on CF. Arri D20 is using that dock-able module too.
So again to repeat: that's the way to go.

CF card module.

CF has certainly come a long way from the 8x speed 16MB CF card that came with my Nikon 990 way back in the year 2000....

Gunleik Groven
08-26-2007, 08:19 AM
Great!

Gunleik

donatello b
08-26-2007, 09:31 AM
"thought the RED-RAM was your favorite storage medium anyway"

that was several months ago and as we all know everything can change ... so i think FAVORITE will change will change over the next year ... we all have to go with what is available at the TIME our Red #'s come up ...

Jaime Vallés
08-26-2007, 09:57 AM
That's great news about having most of the features done by October! Can't wait to see people start posting 4K stills & footage!

Joe Aurili
08-26-2007, 01:17 PM
CF has certainly come a long way from the 8x speed 16MB CF card that came with my Nikon 990 way back in the year 2000....

The last CF card I bought was a 40x 4GB card a few years back for my sony F828. I paid a grand, then never got close to filling it up, ouch!