Price of a used RedOne in 2009?

[Chuck T.]

What will the price of a used RedOne be in 2009...?

[Johnny Friday]

How about price increases and production over-run with back orders....might sell one of my red bodies for $27,500 obo over...

[Shawn Nelson]

It would not surprise me at all to see Red actually go up in price. I know cameras usually go down in price, but audio gear and lighting gear can rise.

[Joel Kaye]

What will the price of a used RedOne be in 2009...?

$10k if it hasn't been upgraded.

You'd have to wonder if future RED's will come with the "new chip" at no extra cost and current owners will have to pay $5k for the upgrade every year to keep current... building in a $5k (or whatever) depreciation year over year. Assuming that brings me to $10k for an original REDONE. RED won't be in a vacuum. Competitors probably will duplicate their efforts within a few years. Or perhaps they'll abandon the 35mm format because the market isn't big enough at these prices compared to the consumer market... where they already have incredible infrastructure and dominate.

And what's REDTWO? or REDTHREE?

Moore's law puts 8K in your cell phone in the fairly near future. But 35mm lenses are what they are mostly... at SLR lens prices. I think the high end lenses won't be used by indies as much when real side by side tests come out. We'll figure out the SLR lenses that don't breath and are the sharpest. Only the top 100ish movies will use the highest end gear.

I'm not investing in expensive lenses... it's a big loss if you drop one and I'm pretty sure the quality gain isn't what some people think it is. We'll see about that within 3 weeks I suppose. I'll rent those if truly needed.

[GlennChan]

For some cameras like Leicas, the price goes up slightly as time goes by. But I've never seen a digital camera go up in price, especially since digital technology gets better at a very fast rate (e.g. Moore's Law). I'd expect Red to come out with a Red Two. Presumably it's inevitable that we will get on-board recording of the higher frame rates.

Or an even better sensor. Etc...

[Gavin Greenwalt]

Why would a used RED go up in price? Every component it's made from will drop in price every month. (except aluminum and labor) It's not like RED is going to make a 2000 camera run and then stop making them leaving a vacuum and intense demand.

I would expect probably 30% depreciation after 24 months. In 24 months if RED continues to manufacture cameras at its current planned rate there'll be no wait and the second generation of failed businesses will just start to sell off completely stabilizing the market.

[Desert Rune]

Red is a commodity product because unlike traditional film cameras where the cost is in film stock, there is no cost with digital camera. They themselves become the commodity. As newer technology replaces the old, prices will drop. The only time this won't happen is one of two things: Red gets out of the business, or they stop producing Red Ones.

I don't think Red can produce enough to saturate the market by 2009 so I'm guessing pricing will remain the same or may increase slightly.

[Stephen Williams]

Hi,

Much depends on when a new improved & cheaper model is introduced either by Red themselves or by a competitor. Historically 2 years is a long time in technology terms, you only have to think back 2 years (HVX) if you don't believe me,

Stephen

[Johnny Friday]

i suppose if you could answer that original question with certainty, then I'd ask what stock to invest in now to cash out in 2009 with the greatest return.
....by the way, was only a joke...but one can never tell what will happen. I suppose in the short run it's like a new ferarri, buy at sticker and sell at 50% more...and of course to expect technology to expand and prices to stabilize or even increase with inflation and newer technologically advanced cameras....

...I think????......:wacko:

[Ken Corben]

Not for sale!

[Martin Weiss]

Well so far it seems that they do fetch a premium, up to 30.000$

[Priyesh P.]

5 $ or maybe even 34 billion $ ? who knows, who cares?

[Cüneyt Kaya]

i think you will get assecoires for really cheap next year...

the body will be stable...hey no matter what condition, it has a 17500 trade in value for epic...

not all assec. will be useable with epic.......

[Priyesh P.]

My point is: max your cameras out to the fullest possible. Only time will tell how markets and prices evolve. Anything else is purely speculative and does not do anything good for the owners. It`s even worse, they start to get confused for things they`ve no control over.