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Chris Armstrong
12-31-2009, 07:27 AM
I'm wondering if an S35 Epic and a S35 Scarlet would work together in a 3D camera rig.

If the sensor size is the same (and the glass on the cameras the same) would this work? Obviously I'd have to keep the frame rate within Scarlet's specs.

Is there anything that would prevent this from working, or cause problems?

KETCH ROSSi
12-31-2009, 07:38 AM
It could work Chris, but for best and ideal sync of any two cameras used in any S3D rig, you must try to literally follow this:

A) Get two cameras of Identical Sensor and make Type and if all possible of continuos Serial Number like #3736 and 3737.

B) You must then be sure to have them both running the exact same Software Update.

C) You will then mount two Identical Lenses, no miss match of a zoom with a prime or prime of different Focal, or Zooms of different range, even if then both used at the same focal.

D) Your lenses, again Identical, must be exactly a match and for this will need Calibration.

If this rules are observed then you are already guarantee a god start.

Now since the Epic and Scarlet are not out yet and we really don't know what it will come out, since we know very well how the RED machine works, and what we see today might be very well that will not be what we will have available to buy tomorrow.

Also the Size differences in both bodies will have to be accounted for, not a big del as anything can be home built to suit your need and adjust each body to were both front elements are side by side and most important were the Sensor distance is set at exactly the same parameters, both horizontally and vertically, this for Parallel type S3D rigs, as for Imager Splitter, this is not a big deal.

But I will from the start strongly suggest to either get two Scarlets or Two Epic.

GPSchnyder
12-31-2009, 09:05 AM
A) Get two cameras of Identical Sensor and make Type and if all possible of continuos Serial Number like #3736 and 3737.

Really? That would be a Problem for me. As I plan to buy a fixed Scarlet and get the 2nd one later, when I've made the money for it.

Is it that problematic?

George

KETCH ROSSi
12-31-2009, 10:28 AM
Well, again this is not exact science, and also depends on Quality Continuity of the Sensor and Optics, which no matter the manufacturer and attention to detail, could bring small differences from Batch to Batch of manufactured products, and this is why is always highly recommended that you get your Two cameras intended for S3D shooting, to be as close to each other in Serial number as possible.

With the Fixed Scarlet you not only have to match as close as possible the Sensors IQ but also their Optics.

Not really a huge deal at all, but again IMO I would try to save up and buy them together so to eliminate possible issues, which even if minor, would save you time in the Calibration process, which no matter what you will still have to do, fixed or not fixed, sequential serial numbers or not.

Just don't get scared about my post, I really try always to be as close to perfection as possible in what I do, and especially in the Gear I purchase for the Job, but again two Fixed Scarlets of even one year apart or more, will still serve you great, just make sure that once you have both of them in your hands, you run the exact same Software update, and that they are checked and Color corrected in equal manner, and that both optics match in IQ resolution and that their Focus and Zooming is also calibrated, and more importantly that both are Genlocked and set up to be operated precisely at the same exact specifications, meaning that they will both be at the same exact point of Focus and Zoom Focal length on each given shot, if this is not achieved then you will get in one of the first issues difficult to take care in Post, and also expensive to deal with later, this issue is known as Optical Disparity and can ruin your day, and this is what can make people sick, beside other known issues.