2.5" SSD drives in Red Drive?

[Matthew Rogers]

So, the more I have been looking at SSD's the more I really like them for the RED. Price wise, they are far better than Compact flash. Reliability wise, they are better than Hard drives. However, how are we going to use them with the Red? It seems like I have been reading that the Red Ram is going to be SS drives, but $4500 seems a little pricey to be just two SSD's in a case.

I have two ideas to use.... First, could we open up the Red Drive case and replace the drives with 2 2.5" SSD's? Second, is there some way you could make a case for the SDD's and then interface them with compact flash...


What are you all thinking? It would be nice to have something that records longer than 16 GB compact flash cards, but cheaper than the Red ram.

Matthew

[Joe Carney]

So, the more I have been looking at SSD's the more I really like them for the RED. Price wise, they are far better than Compact flash. Reliability wise, they are better than Hard drives. However, how are we going to use them with the Red? It seems like I have been reading that the Red Ram is going to be SS drives, but $4500 seems a little pricey to be just two SSD's in a case.

I have two ideas to use.... First, could we open up the Red Drive case and replace the drives with 2 2.5" SSD's? Second, is there some way you could make a case for the SDD's and then interface them with compact flash...


What are you all thinking? It would be nice to have something that records longer than 16 GB compact flash cards, but cheaper than the Red ram.

Matthew

I and others have been discussing that over in off topic "toms hardware..." but anyway, it's like you were reading my mind. :)

[Greg Voevodsky]

Better yet, if Red could just create an open case and then certify 2.5 drives and sell their own new upgrades every few months - that would be great!

Also, why not have 2 - 4 removable flash cards in a RED CASE with the same option of certified, or RED brand. As you can afford to upgrade, you buy the newest Flash from RED.

[Johnny Friday]

I second or third that on this thread. With only one CF slot and an 8mb card shooting 4k....that's just NOT enough time for EFP work...Or let me clarify further---underwater work. I forget what the time was---4mins or less? But you can hardly shoot a segment underwater with that and then to think of coming up, getting out of the water, drying the housing, pulling the camera, then card, load, then mount camera and gear, back in water---TO MUCH EFFORT. Red drive is great. BUT, larger, hotter and bounching on a boat???

Would love to see multiple card reader....I'm not sure why we don't now...can it be an issue of only so much space?

Better yet, the chagable 2.5" drives as was suggested earlier. This way you can always update to better/latest technology...larger drives etc....

OR---IS THIS ALL TO COME LATER FROM RED?

....if we knew, we could hold off on a single CF reader and wait for dual or larger or the dual 2.5" drives---that would be one of the best options I could forsee

....HOPING WE DO SEE DUAL OR LARTER CF DRIVES....that would make things so much better. I just don't see how (at least me) anyone can work in a practical EFP environment with less that 4 mins of shoot time.....not that it hasn't been done with 2min reels of imax film. But what a pain.

Great thoughts to all that are on that......
HELP:help:

[Damien Molineaux]

I think this has been addressed before, most SSDs are not fast enough, and those that are, are expensive. I don't think it's that easy.

About a CF module with more than one slot, given the love the Red team seem to have for CFs, I wouldn't be surprised if a multi slot CF module were released. Maybe something like a Red Drive with multiple slots, that could be optionnaly configured in RAID and be able to support higher frame rates ?!

Hey we can all dream, one BIG HUGE dream is coming true tomorrow !!!

Cheers,
Damien

PS tomorrow is in one hour for me, but ten for Californians, then add another eight or nine hours before the shop opens... how am I ever gonna sleep

[Joe Carney]

Damien, if you check out the link I posted over in Off Topic to Toms Hardware, they hooked up 2 Sandisk SSD to a SATA Raid 0 controller and got write times that exceeded what Redcode needs. I think you can set up to 4 sata drives in Raid 0.

[Michael Hastings]

Red drive is great. BUT, larger, hotter and bounching on a boat???
Great thoughts to all that are on that......
HELP:help:

I have used Ikegami editcam hard drive cameras for several years - (same type of drive as reddrive.) and shot underwater for 25 years. I doubt if you can do anything underwater (other than flood the housing) that will generate sufficient G forces to cause a big problem for the hard drives. Doubtful, but possible to cause data loss, if you are actually trying to record while bouncing the housing around on the deck of a heaving boat (and I mean not you holding it shooting on the boat - the housing itself bouncing on the boat)

If you get the red drive there is a good chance that you will be able to simply swap the hard drives out when the flash based drives become reasonable (say in a year). I have had no problem swapping the original 4 gig circa 1999 drives with modern 120 gig drives in the editcam fieldpaks. As long as red uses standard drives it should be possible.