Red Footage Frames As Magazine Photos

[August _B]

I'm considering the Red camera for it's ability to do both motion and stills from the same capture, but am curious what Red users' experiences have been regarding the potential limitations for still photos described in this article:

http://bit.ly/7yGY3f

It discusses issues such as the 1/50 or 1/60 shutter speed of shooting video being too slow and problematic for stills.

Also would be interested in hearing your experience of trying to find a good still within so many frames from the footage, is it difficult? Do people move such that the right moments as discussed in the article can be found in video footage? Thanks.

[Gunleik Groven]

If you're shooting for stills, there's no reason NOT to use higher shutter speeds. You don't really look for strooby motion in a still...

Or in other words.
If you want stills, shoot it like a still-cam and use the frames you like.

If you want motion, shoot it like a film cam...

[August _B]

I would like to shoot both stills and motion at the same time if possible to get more done faster in a given time period. I'm wondering whether this is possible when you need high quality for both.

[Gunleik Groven]

There are tredeoffs both ways, but those are not due to the camera, but what settings are best for a given output (still/motion)

But it is possible. You just have to familiarize yourself with the cam. All scenes will not allow for optimum results for both still and motion at the same time. Because you really want that motion blur in a lot of motion settings, and you really don't want it in most still settings.

But again. This is no fault of the cam...

[Martin Weiss]

Another alternative is if you have enough light, you can shoot at a higher frame speed, say 120fps. For the stills you just grab the shots your want, while for motion you combine multiple frames. You'd have to shoot at 360 degrees, otherwise you would end up with weird artifacts. But you'd also end up with video-like looking footage. So really right now you have to decide before pressing the button on what format to shoot.

Which reminds me - wouldn't it be awesome if it was possible to shoot both formats parrallel, i.e. when shooting 24 fps you get:

1 frame exposed at 1/48th for 180 degree video
1 frame exposed at anything faster than 1/48th, say 1/250th for the stills frame.

[Pedro Guimaraes]

I've used it for this before....I would change shutter speeds when I was taking "stills" then go back to Behind the scenes shooting mode and regular 180 shutter.

As mentioned, also I shot alot of 120fps.... that helped as well.

Here some examples I shot, (these are very low res compressed etc...)

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee298/ddragon76/pedro_misc/530001042.jpg



http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee298/ddragon76/pedro_misc/480000148.jpg


http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee298/ddragon76/pedro_misc/140001148.jpg

[Matthias Hutter]

An idea:
you could shoot for example at 96 fps with a 360 degree shutter, combine 2 frames each and throw away every other frame pair to get a 24 fps @ 180 Degree shutter video.
1/96 s should be short enough for sharp stills up to about 100mm focal length (35mm eq.) without too fast motion.

Regards, Matt