Tangent Wave, REDCINE-X & REDROCKET

[Sanjin Jukic]

Tangent Wave (http://www.tangentdevices.co.uk/products_wave.asp), REDCINE-X (http://red.cachefly.net/REDCINE-X_build_82e.zip) & RED Rocket (http://www.red.com/store/100-0012) work very fine and flawlessly together.

They are really a great working trio for your RED on set or in post production workflow.

http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/wave_redcine_x_01.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/wave_redcine_x_02.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/wave_redcine_x_03.jpg
Tangent Wave, REDCINE-X and RED Rocket, a great trio for your RED workflow.

[Kwan Khan]

Fully Sick ... Love it
Thanks SJ

[Laco Zamba]

Tangent Wave was good buy. Nice setup.

[C.H.Haskell]

Considering one of these boards for a while...thanks for posting.

[Sanjin Jukic]

Your welcome guys as I always have a great pleasure to serve our RED community well.

Then I forgot to mention that a part of the set up is AJA Hi5 3G HD-SDi to HDMI converter

connected between RED Rocket™™™™ HD-SDI out (both outputs) to AJA Hi 3G HD-SDI in (both inputs)

and with HDMI out to HP DreamColor monitor to get a full 10 bit.

[Michael Sandness]

Will it work with my Tanget CP200 panel??

[Morning Glory]

Will it work with my Tanget CP200 panel??

Try it and see!

[Dave Blackham]

Will it work with my Tanget CP200 panel??

Will it work with our CP100 ?? ill let you know tomorrow.....

[A. Clint Litton]

And of course, he forgets to mention the lynchpin for the whole operation, that which ties it all together: good, strong, delicious coffee.

[Sanjin Jukic]

And of course, he forgets to mention the lynchpin for the whole operation, that which ties it all together: good, strong, delicious coffee.


Clint,

this is one of my favorite coffees from the Nestlé Nespresso collection "Rosabaya de Colombia">>> (http://www.nespresso.com/#/at/en/coffee_nespresso/grands_crus/rosabaya_de_colombia)

[Tim Whitcomb]

What about my JL COPPER control surface?

far better quality than that crappy Tangent (no offense Sanjin) but we returned our Tangent it was so poorly built.

[David Battistella]

Sanjin,

You should take a break and have that lovely espresso. :)

David

[Sanjin Jukic]

Sanjin,

You should take a break and have that lovely espresso. :)

David

Thanks David,

I'll have that...

[Mike Gross]

Expresso should be standard with REDcineX!

[Sanjin Jukic]

Expresso should be standard with REDcineX!

Definitely!!!

[Felix K.]

Love the cup in the picture!

Leiwand!! :)


P.S.: And the brush! It's like new against old style of coloring :)

[David Battistella]

Definitely!!!

Rocket Fuel....

[David Battistella]

just for you Sanjin....


http://www.f8films.com/client/red/

Username: red
Password: red

Please note that the username and password are case sensitive.


David

[Sean Rawls]

Yeah, JL Cooper Eclipse CX support would be awesome! This control surface impressed me with its integration in Color, would love to see it work with Redcine-X / Rocketcine-X.

Keep rolling team,

[Sanjin Jukic]

just for you Sanjin....


http://www.f8films.com/client/red/

Username: red
Password: red

Please note that the username and password are case sensitive.


David

Thanks David

for that amazing R1 slow-mo shot.

I like it so much and is in my .mov archive now.

Using the Tangent Wave console's knobs and buttons is much easy way to get things done pretty fast doing color correction with R3D files.

http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/wave_redcine_x_04.jpg
Tanget Wave with Redcine-X both work perfect together.

http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/wave_redcine_x_05.jpg
Tanget Wave with Redcine-X both work perfect together.

http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/wave_redcine_x_06.jpg
Tanget Wave with Redcine-X both work perfect together.

[Vico Martin]

FLUT on a knob.... SEXY!

but, Sanjin, the balls runs on Redcine??

[Simon Blackledge]

Red Rocket lit and your only getting 2.173fps? :-/ :-o

Love the paintbrush ;)

s

[Sanjin Jukic]

FLUT on a knob.... SEXY!

but, Sanjin, the balls runs on Redcine??

Vico,

the balls work with Lift, Gamma and Gain.


RED Rocket™™™™ lit and your only getting 2.173fps? :-/ :-o

Love the paintbrush ;)

s

I think fps are not accurate counted because any movement has "natural" speed.


FLUT on a knob.... SEXY!

but, Sanjin, the balls runs on Redcine??

Vico,

the balls work for Lift, Gamma and Gain adjustments.

http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/wave_redcine_x_07.jpg
Shot on R1 @ 4.5K with Cooke 25-250 MK1 T4 zoom. A detail zoomed.

http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/wave_redcine_x_08.jpg
Shot on R1 @ 4.5K with Cooke 25-250 MK1 T4 zoom. A slight curve applied.

[Rich Schaefer]

Great post! thanks for sharing.

I assume you can assign the functions to the top knobs?

[Sanjin Jukic]

Great post! thanks for sharing.

I assume you can assign the functions to the top knobs?

9 x Function buttons labelled F1 to F9.

For fast access to frequently used functions.

[Kwan Khan]

Any luck on Euphonix "MC Color"?

[Curran Giddens]

Sanjin, you always have all the best toys!

[Jason H]

Hi, what vers of red cine x is this and what vers of the wave plugin are you using? My wave does not see redcine x.


thanks

[Sanjin Jukic]

Jason,

i didn't make anything special except downloaded the newest beta REDCINE_X build 84

http://red.cachefly.net/redcinex/REDCINE-X_build_84.zip

removed the older versions from computer, installed build 84.

launched REDCINE-X and have got REDCINE-X on Tangent Wave displays.

There is no any plug-in.

[Matt Gottshalk]

Any luck on Euphonix "MC Color"?

That is what I am waiting for as well....

[Jason H]

got it. I downloaded it and am LOVINNNNNNNNNGGGG ITTTTTTTTT! :) WAVe is seeing it!


SICK!

[Sanjin Jukic]

Hurray! :hurray:

[Jeff Kilgroe]

RED Rocket™ lit and your only getting 2.173fps? :-/ :-o

The FPS readout in REDCINE-X is like a current status thing and acts kinda weird. When you hit play the footage starts playing real time, but the FPS counter ramps up as if it has some sort of averaging and when you stop, it tapers off at times and often reports some low number like that even sitting there idle.

I will say though, when playing back 4K RC36 at full res, full quality debayer, I'm topping out at about 17~19fps. Even with the latest build. It seems there's something holding back Rocket performance in REDCINE-X. Probably the code is just not optimized and still full of a lot of debug info and processes. ROCKETCINE-X plays back much faster and always has, but it's basically been EOL'd and it looks like it's all REDCINE-X from here on out.

[Meryem Ersoz]

ROCKETCINE-X plays back much faster and always has, but it's basically been EOL'd and it looks like it's all REDCINE-X from here on out.

do we know this for sure, Jeff? - has RED confirmed or is that an assumption? I'd sure hate to see it dropped, I really like RocketCine-X.

[Jeff Kilgroe]

No we don't know this for sure at this time I guess. I saw a comment about it recently around here. Ultimately ROCKETCINE was to get us all up and running with the ROCKET and will eventually be retired.

[Steven Caesare]

do we know this for sure, Jeff? - has RED confirmed or is that an assumption? I'd sure hate to see it dropped, I really like RocketCine-X.

I had been under the same impression Jeff was, but Deanan just said:

"REDcineX is the first app out.
RocketcineX will be released also with new color support"

So I dunno.

-sc

[Sanjin Jukic]

Tangent Wave (http://www.tangentdevices.co.uk/products_wave.asp), REDCINE-X (http://red.cachefly.net/redcinex/REDCINE-X_build_84.zip) & RED Rocket (http://www.red.com/store/100-0012) and AJA Hi5 3G (http://www.aja.com/products/converters/converters-hd-hi53g.php) HD-SDi to HDMI mini-converter connected

to old MacPro 3 Ghz 8 core 2nd generation (http://support.apple.com/kb/SP30) (but fitted with OWC 32GB memory (http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/53FB4MPK32GB/))

and older RAID (Avid Medea Video SCSI RAID (http://www.avid.com/products/Video-RAID/index.asp) fitted with 2TB) plus HP DreamColor (http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF05a/382087-382087-64283-72270-3884471-3648397.html)

and Panasonic Plasma TX-P46G15E (http://www.panasonic.de/html/de_DE/Produkte/TV-Geräte/Viera+Plasma+TV/TX-P46G15E/Übersicht/2251882/index.html) altogether perform like a little DVS CLIPSTER (http://www.dvs.de/products/video-systems/clipster.html) RED DI posproduction system.

[Meryem Ersoz]

that set-up doesn't have a conform tool, yet. just sayin'...

not that it isn't great, I have a very similar set-up. but DVS Clipster will still do certain things that our souped-up budget set-ups won't.

Jeff, I think I read that same comment, but I'm hoping that they released REDCINE-X first, to serve the greater populace, since not everyone has a Rocket card yet, putting in my vote to keep ROCKETCINE-X alive, it is great for fast footage reviews and is still optimized for speedier playback and rendering.

Also want them to add a text/notes section...a la Clipfinder - that can be saved in a document format that could be sent down the editorial pipeline.

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Yeah, you got me there. I just saw that too.

Now I'm trying to remember where I read the other info. I know who typed it, but I don't want to say anything more until I find it. Especially since it looks like it is not accurate, or at least not going to happen any time soon.


I had been under the same impression Jeff was, but Deanan just said:

"REDcineX is the first app out.
RocketcineX will be released also with new color support"

So I dunno.

-sc

[Steven Caesare]

Yeah, you got me there. I just saw that too.

Now I'm trying to remember where I read the other info. I know who typed it, but I don't want to say anything more until I find it. Especially since it looks like it is not accurate, or at least not going to happen any time soon.

Yeah, I'm almost postive that I red one of the Red Boys say that RocketCine was an interim solution to use the Rocket until the next app up which would subsume both RedCine and RocketCine... and that appeared to be RedCine-X.

The way it was described, it sounded like it would be a superset of all the previous apps, and would simply take advantage of Rocket acceleration if present, and fall back to software/GPU if not.

Thanks Jeff.

[Sanjin Jukic]

that set-up doesn't have a conform tool, yet. just sayin'...

not that it isn't great, I have a very similar set-up. but DVS Clipster will still do certain things that our souped-up budget set-ups won't.

Jeff, I think I read that same comment, but I'm hoping that they released REDCINE-X first, to serve the greater populace, since not everyone has a Rocket card yet, putting in my vote to keep ROCKETCINE-X alive, it is great for fast footage reviews and is still optimized for speedier playback and rendering.

Also want them to add a text/notes section...a la Clipfinder - that can be saved in a document format that could be sent down the editorial pipeline.


Yeah, you got me there. I just saw that too.

Now I'm trying to remember where I read the other info. I know who typed it, but I don't want to say anything more until I find it. Especially since it looks like it is not accurate, or at least not going to happen any time soon.


Yeaaah,

It's happening in a small shape right now and tomorrow will get even bigger...

I am just writing what I see in front of me right now. It's about totally new feeling and life with

real-time grading and fast conforming R3D files that I didn't experience before.

REDCINE-X is still in early beta and of course with a little help from the third apps like a Clipfinder , Crimson, R3D Data Manager, etc,...

it could be one day very soon like a small scaled or cut version of DVS CLIPSTER DI RED System.

[Meryem Ersoz]

Hans-Georg could change that for us soon...I hope they're shooting the SDK to him first...

[Gunleik Groven]

Hans-Georg could change that for us soon...I hope they're shooting the SDK to him first...

Gee, seems we're betting on the same horse...

Not too strange, considering that Clipfinder is the smartest "new" app for Red Wokflow since... well Crimson...

[Morning Glory]

To Tangent Wave Owners:

Just got my Wave yesterday, working with Redcine-X, what a godsend!

The Issue:

When I'm using my Master lift, gamma and gain controls (the scrollwheels) they do not register in the image until I move the corresponding Differential lift, gamma or gain control (the trackballs). I've restarted Redcine-X and rebooted my computer to no avail. Is anyone else having this issue?

[Sanjin Jukic]

The Issue:

When I'm using my Master lift, gamma and gain controls (the scrollwheels) they do not register in the image until I move the corresponding Differential lift, gamma or gain control (the trackballs). I've restarted Redcine-X and rebooted my computer to no avail. Is anyone else having this issue?

You are right that's the issue.

[Deanan]

You are right that's the issue.

Wave support broke in build 84 by accident (was ok in 82e). It's fixed in the next build.

[Sanjin Jukic]

Thanks Deanan!!!

[Ryota Kurata]

Wave support broke in build 84 by accident (was ok in 82e). It's fixed in the next build.

Build 90 works fine!
Thank you!

[Sanjin Jukic]

Build 90 works fine!
Thank you!


I can't find a link for that build 90 !!??

[Simon Blackledge]

Always Page 2 mate.

http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=40067&page=2

[Sanjin Jukic]

Thanks a lot, Simon.

[Morning Glory]

Thanks Deanan! and thanks SO MUCH for putting in Lift Gamma Gain and Wave support in the first place! I'm living in my studio right now!!!!

[craigjkharris]

Deanan and RED...
Thanks for listening to all of us. This is a huge step in the right direction!!!
I heard some rumors that you have some pretty amazing software that will be coming out.

Craig

[Kwan Khan]

Any test on euphonix MC Color with Redcine-x?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m2xmcKNeHM
demo looks interesting

[Johnny Friday]

Sanjin,
Want to ask you if you are using the DVI out from Redrocket card or only AJA output/input?

I'm trying to understand if there is ANY advantage to using the Redrocket output direct to a monitor. Seems that you only get use of THAT monitor while using REDCINE-X OR ROCKETCINE-X. So if you are using another output devise that gives you 10bit or 12 bit output via HDMI or HD-SDI, WHY USE the REDROCKET DVI outputs? I'm not connecting 4 of them to a 4k projector---from my understanding at this point, there is no advantage to using the DVI out of REDROCET card to a monitor since it is only 8 bit output AND you only get use of that monitor when using RED'S software, so effectively you loose that monitor for all other computing...unless you keep manually switching it by hand. So again, i don't see how the output from REDROCKET card has any advantage over say AJA card or in my case MXO2 breakout box with hd-sdi and hdmi and component output to a monitor and also color calibration tools (blue channel only) etc....

....Would love to hear your comments on this and how you are using.

[Sanjin Jukic]

Sanjin,
Want to ask you if you are using the DVI out from Redrocket card or only AJA output/input?

I'm trying to understand if there is ANY advantage to using the Redrocket output direct to a monitor. Seems that you only get use of THAT monitor while using REDCINE-X OR ROCKETCINE-X. So if you are using another output devise that gives you 10bit or 12 bit output via HDMI or HD-SDI, WHY USE the REDROCKET DVI outputs? I'm not connecting 4 of them to a 4k projector---from my understanding at this point, there is no advantage to using the DVI out of REDROCET card to a monitor since it is only 8 bit output AND you only get use of that monitor when using RED'S software, so effectively you loose that monitor for all other computing...unless you keep manually switching it by hand. So again, i don't see how the output from REDROCKET card has any advantage over say AJA card or in my case MXO2 breakout box with hd-sdi and hdmi and component output to a monitor and also color calibration tools (blue channel only) etc....

....Would love to hear your comments on this and how you are using.

I use dual HD-SDI out from RedRocket to AJA Hi5-3G HD-SDI to HDMI converter and then plugged to HP DreamColor (Calibrated with X-Rite HP calibrator).

Dual/Quad DVI keep for future 4K LCD...or 4 cheap{o} LCDs to put together...

[Johnny Friday]

just a question, why not go HD-SDI out to AJA and then to hdmi? guess it does not matter how you get there, but just thinking less cables...and hd-sdi out to aja and then back out to hdmi gives you ten bit yes?

I'm trying to NOT go out via the rocket card and use my mxo2 card to go out to hdmi to calibrated plasma display. This way i can still use my dual monitors in other apps like FCP.

[Sanjin Jukic]

just a question, why not go HD-SDI out to AJA and then to hdmi? guess it does not matter how you get there, but just thinking less cables...and hd-sdi out to aja and then back out to hdmi gives you ten bit yes?

I'm trying to NOT go out via the rocket card and use my mxo2 card to go out to hdmi to calibrated plasma display. This way i can still use my dual monitors in other apps like FCP.

That's exactly what I wanted to say but maybe my English is not so good...sorry...

[Johnny Friday]

That's exactly what I wanted to say but maybe my English is not so good...sorry...

no...partially my mistake. You said DUAL HD-SDI...and my brain thought dual DVI...but yes there is dual hd-sdi out. I guess you can use BOTH hd-sdi out for 4k then? one is enough for ten bit i believe.

Thanks Sanjin,

[Johnny Friday]

So you can only use your dreamcolor while using redcine-x and rocket-x? You have to unplug it or plug back into your video card if you want to use with FCP?

You can not leave it plugged into the video card AND rocket card at same time yes?

[Johnny Friday]

Is nice system, i am waiting for my wave that is in San Diego that i ordered weeks ago....but have to wait to have someone bring to me in Mexico. Too much mouse by hand is just not efficient. Instead i must here how good is the wave while i'm muttering away with my mouse.

[Rich Schaefer]

Any test on euphonix MC Color with Redcine-x?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m2xmcKNeHM
demo looks interesting

I am looking at the tangent it looks cool. But, Kwan that euphonix looks very cool.

Any one try the euphonix yet? Maybe this question should be a new thread?

Thx

[Paul Leeming]

So you can only use your dreamcolor while using redcine-x and rocket-x? You have to unplug it or plug back into your video card if you want to use with FCP?

You can not leave it plugged into the video card AND rocket card at same time yes?
I might be missing something here, but if your monitor has multiple inputs just hook two connections up to it from your computer - one being the RedRocket output feed and the other running off your second DVI output on your video card perhaps (if you have one). Then just flip between them by selecting source input on your monitor?

I don't have a RedRocket, just thinking out loud.

HTH

Paul

[Keith Neff]

Your welcome guys as I always have a great pleasure to serve our RED community well.

Then I forgot to mention that a part of the set up is AJA Hi5 3G HD-SDi to HDMI converter

connected between RED Rocket™™™™™ HD-SDI out (both outputs) to AJA Hi 3G HD-SDI in (both inputs)

and with HDMI out to HP DreamColor monitor to get a full 10 bit.

Sanjin; we have the panel and release 101 but how do you activate the panel? Don't see any menu options. We are on a Windows system so I don't know if that's the problem.
thanks
Keith

[Sanjin Jukic]

Sanjin; we have the panel and release 101 but how do you activate the panel? Don't see any menu options. We are on a Windows system so I don't know if that's the problem.
thanks
Keith

Can't help.

I'm on a Mac.

[Keith Neff]

That's what I figured.
Anybody got the panel going in Windows?
regards
Keith

[Deanan]

Sanjin; we have the panel and release 101 but how do you activate the panel? Don't see any menu options. We are on a Windows system so I don't know if that's the problem.
thanks
Keith

It's not functional for windows yet.

[Keith Neff]

Thanks for the update Deanan, I'll sit quietly in the corner now and wait.
best regards
keith

[Elijah Kelley]

Hey Sanjin,

Thanks for the picks. My Red Rocket was already on the way but after seeing your setup I purchased the WAVE the AJA DUAL SDI and the HP Dreamcolor along with new 8 core tower...will be in CC land very very soon. Also have the mobile rocket and HBA for quick switch between tower and macbook pro. RED is really great at this...so much support from different companies makes all the difference. Jim and RED a true revolution...i know i know i'm repeating what has been said a million times but i'm just saying it again:smiley:

[Sanjin Jukic]

Hey Sanjin,

Thanks for the picks. My RED Rocket™™™™™™™ was already on the way but after seeing your setup I purchased the WAVE the AJA DUAL SDI and the HP Dreamcolor along with new 8 core tower...will be in CC land very very soon. Also have the mobile rocket and HBA for quick switch between tower and macbook pro. RED is really great at this...so much support from different companies makes all the difference. Jim and RED a true revolution...i know i know i'm repeating what has been said a million times but i'm just saying it again:smiley:

Elijah,

I'm glad you like it.

Also I'll post soon some photos about a budget mobile on-set grading suite for dailies/rushes with

RED Rocket, REDCine-X, Magma Express BoxPro, Mac BookPro, Wave, HP Dreamcolor, LaCie Big Extreme FW 800 RAID 2TB,

AJA Hi5-3G HD-SDI to HDMI converter.

Stay tuned.

[Vigna Raajan]

Sanjin,
Looking forward for your post.
Thanks in advance.

[Elijah Kelley]

Elijah,

I'm glad you like it.

Also I'll post soon some photos about a budget mobile on-set grading suite for dailies/rushes with

RED Rocket™, REDCine-X, Magma Express BoxPro, Mac BookPro, Wave, HP Dreamcolor, LaCie Big Extreme FW 800 RAID 2TB,

AJA Hi5-3G HD-SDI to HDMI converter.

Stay tuned.[/QUOTE]

Waiting on you Sanjin...I'm sure it'll be worth the wait. Thanks.

[Sanjin Jukic]

I'm back now with one very improvised set up because I had to pull out my RR card out of MacPro.

Also busy with another things but had a little time to show our RED Users hungry to see how look a budget on-set grading

with REDCine-X b104, REDRocket dual HD-SDI out, MacBook Pro, RED Drive FW 800 out, AJA Hi5 3G dual HD-SDI to HDMI and

HP Dreamcolor 30bit LCD.

The picture on HP Dreamcolor is a fresh shot on R1-M with Leica-R 60mm Macro f/2.8 from this morning.

Here we go:

http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/Magma_RR_01.jpg
REDCine-X b104, Magma ExpressBox Pro, REDRocket dual HD-SDI out, MacBook Pro, Tangent Wave, RED Drive FW 800 out,
AJA Hi5 3G dual HD-SDI to HDMI and HP Dreamcolor 30bit LCD

http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/Magma_RR_02.jpg
REDCine-X b104, Magma ExpressBox Pro, REDRocket dual HD-SDI out, MacBook Pro, Tangent Wave, RED Drive FW 800 out,
AJA Hi5 3G dual HD-SDI to HDMI and HP Dreamcolor 30bit LCD

http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/Winter_03.jpg
Shot @ 4.5K on R1-M with Leica R 60mm f/2.8 Macro.

[Johnny Friday]

I might be missing something here, but if your monitor has multiple inputs just hook two connections up to it from your computer - one being the RedRocket output feed and the other running off your second DVI output on your video card perhaps (if you have one). Then just flip between them by selecting source input on your monitor?

I don't have a RedRocket, just thinking out loud.

HTH

Paul

Paul, good point. Funny how the obvious is right in front of our eyes....
thanks.

[Gunleik Groven]

Hi S

How are you monitoring/calibrating/loading LUTs when you CC on this system?
Only from the RR?
Or do you conform to something for a final grade in some CC app?

G

[Johnny Friday]

Sanjin,
So do you use the Magma express box on both your mac tower AND notebook? OR do you take the Redrocket card out of the express box and install it back in your Mac tower when you use the tower?

I'm trying to see if you get full potential out of using the RR from the express box AND what is the connection from the express box to your TOWER if you do use the express box connected to your tower. ----then are you getting full efficiency from the RR card if using inside the express box.

....many questions there. I like the express box, but trying to see what advantage it has if i plan ONLY to use from my mac tower. I'd like to free up a PCI slot, but you probably have to install another in its place....if so, what type of card/connection?

Thanks for all the work you are putting to show the community!

[Sanjin Jukic]

Gunleik,

HP Dreamcolor is calibrated with HP-Eye-One calibrator device that is the same device as you could have with your Mac or PC for your graphic/video work.

I do not use or work with this set up on another app except REDCine-X.

The idea is to get dailies/rushes in a way to work on set together with director/producer/cinematographer

and to define a basic color look of the shots that can be directly and immediately from this on-set place output as DPX,...etc.,...whatever you need files

that can be later use as a clear reference to grading suite and the main colorist.

Nothing more than that.

It's not grading footage for a final release.

About LUTs I do not know because this depends on more REDCine-X feature development later.

http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/HP_01.jpg
Info from HP DreamColor Monitor status window.

http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/HP_02.jpg
HP DreamColor powered with calibration device from Eye-One Technology.

Also I head that 3cP 4x with new release that using latest SDK from RED was promised to work with LUTs.

Just because 3cP was already woking together with R3D, Wave and REDRocket.

So probably third parties apps will do more things in that way...

[Johnny Friday]

Time to calibrate your monitor!

[Sanjin Jukic]

Time to calibrate your monitor!

John,

you are totally right.

[Olivier Madar]

Hi Sanjin,

Why do you use an Aja for converting the HDSDI output of the redrocket and not the breakout box ?


Regards,


Olivier

[Curran Giddens]

Time to calibrate your monitor!

199 hours isn't bad for the HP Dreamcolor. It does not need to be calibrated as often as a typical LCD.

[Curran Giddens]

Why do you use an Aja for converting the HDSDI output of the redrocket and not the breakout box ?

The BOB currently does not support 10-bit on the HDMI ports.

When it does I will get the the breakout box. Sanjin and many others are probably waiting for the same....

[Olivier Madar]

That's a good reason. Thank you to all for this very usefull thread. I will follow you with a dreamcolor and an external box for my future Rocketcard.

Olivier


The BOB currently does not support 10-bit on the HDMI ports.

When it does I will get the the breakout box. Sanjin and many others are probably waiting for the same....

[Sanjin Jukic]

Useful reviews about

HP DreamColor>>> (http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/atepper/story/dreamcolor_from_hp_an_ideal_tool_for_critical_imag e_evaluation/P0/)

AJA Hi5-3G HD-SDI to HDMI mini converter>>> (http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/atepper/story/dreamcolor_converter_boxes_for_non_compliant_syste ms/)

Tangent Wave>>> (http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/ssimmons/story/review_the_tangent_wave_control_surface/)

[Olivier Madar]

Thank you,


Very useful !



Olivier




Useful reviews about

HP DreamColor>>> (http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/atepper/story/dreamcolor_from_hp_an_ideal_tool_for_critical_imag e_evaluation/P0/)

AJA Hi5-3G HD-SDI to HDMI mini converter>>> (http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/atepper/story/dreamcolor_converter_boxes_for_non_compliant_syste ms/)

Tangent Wave>>> (http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/ssimmons/story/review_the_tangent_wave_control_surface/)

[Cal Brunker]

I have the JL Cooper Eclipse, and I'm dying for that thing to work with Redcine-x. Is this something we need to chase JL Cooper about, or can RED integrate this? It's such a sweet surface, and color integration is pretty good.

Cal

[Johnny Friday]

Sanjin,
Let me see if i have this straight:

You are using dreamcolor and getting 10 bit yes?
*achieving by running hd-sdi out to your converter box then hdmi or display port out to the dreamcolor?

Is that correct?
Question, does the converter box require a card installed in the pcie slot or is it a straight conversion box?

that said, i like the link you supplied with the three choices. Blackmagic seems to offer as much as the others at a better price point. I have yet to look them up independently, but assume they all have HDMI or display port out.

I'm all out of pcie slots, so looking for a way to get 10 bit monitoring to my dreamcolor....and only way i see how to do that is via RR card's hdsdi out and then convert to either hdmi or display port into the dreamcolor.

I think i'm sniffing this out right no?
Thanks,

[Sanjin Jukic]

John,

there are some good answers on your dilemma here:

DreamColor converter boxes for non-compliant systems>>> (http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/atepper/story/dreamcolor_converter_boxes_for_non_compliant_syste ms/)

[Johnny Friday]

John,

there are some good answers on your dilemma here:

DreamColor converter boxes for non-compliant systems>>> (http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/atepper/story/dreamcolor_converter_boxes_for_non_compliant_syste ms/)

Thanks Sanjin,
Looks like simplest is the AJA hi5 the Lynx looks nice, but just want simple easy to use easy setup pass through. won't use 99% of the functions i see on most of these.
Great!

[Johnny Friday]

Hey Sanjin,
wondering if you are able to change the setup of the tangent. I just plugged mine in yesterday, and now back on the road, only got a few hours to play with it. I notice that if you go to "applications" you can open the WAVE up and assign different tasks to the controls---BUT, i did not see ANY REDCINE controls on the WAVE application. So for instance, if i want to assign TINT to one of the controls, i don't see how we can do this. Or is there a download some place where we can add REDCINE as one of the options to assign to the WAVE?

Thanks Sanjin

[Alexander Alexandrov]

a few relevant questions:

what would you get today: AJA Hi5 3G (http://www.aja.com/products/converters/converters-hd-hi53g.php) or Blackmagic HDLink Pro (http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/hdlink/)

also has RED Rocket Breakout Box been updated to support 10bit?

[Curran Giddens]

also has RED Rocket Breakout Box been updated to support 10bit?

I certainly hope so. I'm about to order one...

[Gunnar Nimpuno]

Hi Guys, I just bought Wave for my on set (basic) grading. Just wondering about wave mapping, since I work with curve, kelvin and effects quite a lot. Still confused which command is for which.....LoL. Please advice. Cheers!