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Fence sitter
08-31-2007, 07:09 PM
Now that people have these in their hands can you tell me how long it takes from power on to recording?

Chris Forbes
08-31-2007, 07:19 PM
We are all waiting with fingers on the F5 key for any news from the early reservation holders. We have had none yet.

Johnny Friday
08-31-2007, 07:56 PM
F5 for me is "up volume".....he he he......and CTL looked great in 2k....sorry, that was open for thi remark

Joe Aurili
09-01-2007, 03:53 PM
I believe it is around 45 seconds in the current software.

laguun
09-01-2007, 05:06 PM
F5 for me is "up volume".....he he he......and CTL looked great in 2k....sorry, that was open for thi remark

owning fcp here as well, i get a little bit annoyed by these os-geek comments of a few users here.

remember: fcp & osx as of now are (sadly) 2k only, offline for 4k, and 4k RT finishing is as of now windows and linux only.

so there are reasons to use other operation systems even if you are a fan of one in particular.

Furthermore, all people here are using x86 intel/amd pcs, no matter which operation system. can we therefore please refrain from platform-wars and leave that to other forums.

thanks.

Johnny Friday
09-01-2007, 05:44 PM
there was one??

no offense, but I can care less about OSX or Windows = xxoo. Got both. They each have their uses.

i guess i really don't use my windows much for web browsing though.....

but no war here. nor do i care about the technology they are based on. as long as someone keeps making it easier for me to use and upgrade every two years to take my cash....that's all that matters.

sorry if i offended anyone with my remark---i sincerely oppologize
:blush:

might add i've never been accused of being an osx geek before---i would take that as a compliment. But realistically i just get by on my machine. It's WAY to much machine for me...

geeky

laguun
09-01-2007, 05:54 PM
there was one??

no offense, but I can care less about OSX or Windows = xxoo. Got both. They each have their uses.



sorry then!
as platform-agnostic i am maybe to allergic to emotions towards operating systems.

I have it in the company/production all the times when people struggle which xsi/maya/3ds max after fx/combustion linux/osx/windows etc is better...and maybe i am a little bit to thin-skinned therefore :)

... cooperation is the keyword!

I am thinking about getting a second FCP license here, but i am still undecided. We have most systems on windows, and i will certainly need another 4k system in 2008...

ok, back to topic then :)

Mike Seymour
09-01-2007, 06:23 PM
Well I am sure it will change, but we were timing it at 70 sec today.

Mike

fxphd.com filming in LA - as we type!

Anders Holck
09-01-2007, 06:39 PM
Any info yet on running time for a RED brick: When in standby and when recording to CF?

Last update on this topic was with the beta cameras, with the old board, Reddrive and without the new cooling system.

Chris Forbes
09-01-2007, 07:00 PM
F5 on mac and pc desktops is refresh for your browser. Unless your on a laptop in which case they use those function keys for all sorts of stuff. Sorry if I was unclear.

Fence sitter
09-02-2007, 12:03 AM
70 seconds...that's one hell of a wait on drama god knows how bad that would be on a doc. I'd say unusable?

Mike is that from power on to laying down pictures?

Ken Corben
09-02-2007, 12:11 AM
Any info yet on running time for a RED brick: When in standby and when recording to CF?

Last update on this topic was with the beta cameras, with the old board, Reddrive and without the new cooling system.

Anders,

We were so busy doing our tests that I did not put an official clock on the red bricks. We charged fully the night before and worked all day off of one Red battery on each camera with out a need to change out. One of our technicians noted," Damn we still have X remaining on the battery after a 3/4 day." Sorry I could not be more technical/specific this time around but we did not change the battery on a 12 hour day if that helps for now, i.e., very impressive.

I'd add also that it was 107 degrees on location and we worked with only a 4X courtesy on the operator and cameras with no sensor warnings or overheating problems. We did power down between set ups though.

Andrew Benz
09-02-2007, 12:43 AM
Great information Ken, the battery usage is unreal... very glad to hear about the cooling issue.

Anders Holck
09-02-2007, 07:39 AM
Sorry I could not be more technical/specific this time around but we did not change the battery on a 12 hour day if that helps for now, i.e., very impressive.

I'd add also that it was 107 degrees on location and we worked with only a 4X courtesy on the operator and cameras with no sensor warnings or overheating problems. We did power down between set ups though.

Ok, very nice. Thanks.

Unwounded
09-02-2007, 11:22 AM
Glad to hear about the cooling issue.......When they posted the pics the other day from the soderbegh camera, and you could still see the cold packs being used I was worried this would be an ongoing problem.

Antoine Baumann
09-04-2007, 11:21 AM
thanks a lot for your precision on the battery and the heat.


we did not change the battery on a 12 hour day

So that's for a RED body + RED lcd + CF Flash, isn'it?

antoine.

chuck colburn
09-04-2007, 11:29 AM
Are the first cameras using a thermo-electrict cooling device on the sensor?
Why I ask is, that from what I've read even a small one draws around two amps and up. If there is one in the camera the run times that are being achieved with the RED batteries is way cool considering the use of fan(s) and all.

jbeale
09-04-2007, 11:55 AM
Peltier coolers (TEC) draw lots of power when they're full-on, but you can drop the power down depending on the heat load you need to pump. Very possibly it is turned off when not needed. If it's 107 F on set I assume it would be needed, though. As I recall the beta units used on the first film sets ("Wanted", "Argentine") did not yet have a cooler installed.

chuck colburn
09-04-2007, 11:58 AM
Cool....lol

thanks jbeale

Brook Willard
09-04-2007, 08:27 PM
Why is this in the "for hire" section? I mean... really?

Boot time is roughly 60 seconds right now.

Batteries last 60-100 minutes.