Red in Switzerland [Archive]

sbaechler

09-03-2007, 03:37 AM

The Swiss RED network. So far there are only private owners.
http://www.redswiss.ch/redswiss/redswiss.html

Stephen Williams

09-03-2007, 03:42 AM

The Swiss RED network. So far there are only private owners.
http://www.redswiss.ch/redswiss/redswiss.html

Hi Simon,

There are loads of cameras coming! There will be more Red's than any other camera I think very soon.

Stephen

steve palazzese

12-19-2007, 01:15 AM

Surely there are more Red's than F23!

steve palazzese

12-19-2007, 01:17 AM

ops...my first message!
cheers to all swiss members & Red users.

Stephen Williams

12-19-2007, 01:44 AM

Hi,

Pretty sure some rental houses will have Reds. I am guessing that over 30 Reds will be here very soon, very few people have any plans for serious glass through.

Stephen

Damien Molineaux

12-19-2007, 07:02 AM

Hi,

Pretty sure some rental houses will have Reds. I am guessing that over 30 Reds will be here very soon, very few people have any plans for serious glass through.

Stephen

Hi Stephen,

Yes, there's probably some business to be made there. Now, 30 Reds, that's a lot for our small country. Anyhow, we'll have one for rent in Geneva pretty soon (hopefully).

Cheers,
Damien

Tim Lüdin

12-19-2007, 10:14 AM

yeah 30 reds is alot for small switzerland. but not all folks want to rent them out. Gäll Daniel:tongue:

So it's just an other format out there. It could be a HDCAM, P2 HD, XDHDcam, HDV, IMX, Digibeta etc.
There is a big format war going on so I don't care any more. I just need a good cam that suits my needs. The RED is like the new Betacam. There have been hundreds out there also in Switzerland. So I dont care if there are 30 or 100.
If you have your own projects it doesn't matter.

So see you soon on the Swiss RED Test.:wink:

Tim

steve palazzese

12-19-2007, 11:31 AM

Yes i agree with you Tim, it's like film...never mind how many 35mm are out there!
But sure you're luckier than me with the number...(january?)

waiting for the swiss red test.

steve

Alexander Christ

12-20-2007, 01:09 AM

Hello everbody of the Swiss RED Core!

Does anybody know which rental houses have ordered RED Ones?

steve palazzese

12-20-2007, 01:50 AM

don't know...any words from Megarent and the others yet.

have you heard about redrental? ;-)

steve

Alexander Christ

12-20-2007, 03:11 AM

...aahh... redrental.ch, ...I remember ;-)

as far as I know Megarent has nothing ordered.

Tim Lüdin

12-20-2007, 03:29 AM

They all just wait and see. That's the typical swiss way.
To be honest, there is a lot we all dont know yet.
It has to be seen if the RED workflow is ideal for average swiss productions. Maybe we early adapters are realy a bit early.
It could take another 10 month till the red postworkflow is bullitproofed and easy to understand for everybody. And I mean everybody!!!

You dont have those kinda Problems with the "normal" HDCAMs.
You just take the tape out and start to work in a way, that hasn't changed in the last 10 years. This gives the customer some security. He knows how to handle the footage right from the start. RED is a total new ballgame and a lot of people are afraid of it. You have much more room to play but this is exactly what a lot of folks dont need, because then they get lost.
So we better make a good job in presenting the right workflow that works easy and fine or the average swiss joe will stay away from the RED. That's why the swiss rental houses all wait and see till they realy have seen it work.

So its up to us now...
Tim

Stephen Williams

12-20-2007, 05:07 AM

Hello everbody of the Swiss RED Core!

Does anybody know which rental houses have ordered RED Ones?

Hi,

Just rumors but 2 companies in Zurich & 1 in Geneva, I hear about 2 more cameras every week now.

Stephen

Tobias Straka

12-20-2007, 02:06 PM

They all just wait and see. That's the typical swiss way.
To be honest, there is a lot we all dont know yet.
It has to be seen if the RED workflow is ideal for average swiss productions. Maybe we early adapters are realy a bit early.
It could take another 10 month till the red postworkflow is bullitproofed and easy to understand for everybody. And I mean everybody!!!

Very true. I did speak to a couple of Swiss Filmmakers, all saying that they will wait doing a red-production. I noticed that this is for the wrong reasons though. Often I heard them talk about issues that don't exist or stuff that is currently being addressed. So it's a mix of scepticism and good ol' swiss perfection - rely on what you know. Is that a good thing? I dunno. To some extent I guess...

Hi,

Just rumors but 2 companies in Zurich & 1 in Geneva, I hear about 2 more cameras every week now.

Stephen

I know for a fact about one company that has 5 cameras coming (in the low 100's) and two people hired just for them. I also heard they were trying to become an official red distribution partner, but well... :sarcasm: Based in Zurich btw and not really the video rental house you'd expect. We'll see bout that...

Stephen Williams

12-20-2007, 02:37 PM

I know for a fact about one company that has 5 cameras coming (in the low 100's) and two people hired just for them.

Hi,

Is that Light & Bryte?

I up my guess to 40 Reds in CH very soon, shame there is only 1 set of S4's in the country, that sort of puts this all in perspective!

Stephen

Tobias Straka

12-20-2007, 03:02 PM

Hi,

Is that Light & Bryte?

Stephen

Almost - Light & Byte :) Is that public already? Anyway - they already supply companies like megarent etc with light and stuff, so I guess this is a logical step...

EDIT: I just found out that the information about LB is not quite correct - one of you guys could tell, right? :) Ok so what it looks like is that they do have 3 or 4 cameras reserved but they seem not to be sure yet whether or not they actually gonna get all of them. They are in contact with a swiss red owner (so who is it, guys?) and they are renting that red for a couple of weeks to test things. Then they're gonna decide which way to go. So - sorry for the misinformation, I'll keep my future posts to what I REALLY know as a fact...

Patrick Tresch

12-21-2007, 01:31 PM

This is the swiss reduser forum.

http://www.redstockshots.com/REDswiss/index.php

Question :

2k Real time colortiming on Scratch of 4k r3d material projected on a 9m screen in a real theater with a 2k DI Chrisite projector and a professionnal colorist for 950.-- chfr. a day and all this in Lausanne.

Are you interested?

Pat

Stephen Williams

12-21-2007, 01:41 PM

Almost - Light & Byte :) Is that public already? Anyway - they already supply companies like megarent etc with light and stuff, so I guess this is a logical step...

EDIT: I just found out that the information about LB is not quite correct - one of you guys could tell, right? :) Ok so what it looks like is that they do have 3 or 4 cameras reserved but they seem not to be sure yet whether or not they actually gonna get all of them. They are in contact with a swiss red owner (so who is it, guys?) and they are renting that red for a couple of weeks to test things. Then they're gonna decide which way to go. So - sorry for the misinformation, I'll keep my future posts to what I REALLY know as a fact...

Hi,

Somebody from L&B was phoning around asking people if had a red for rent. They did not say they were from L&B but there phone no gave their game away.

Stephen

Stephen Williams

12-21-2007, 01:43 PM

Patrick Tresch

12-21-2007, 01:59 PM

Hi Pat,

Sounds very reasonable, I paid 1600 last week to hire a Christie Projector!

Stephen

Indeed it seams very cheap... and it is...
But... it's still a project...

The trick to get this so cheap is to do it as an association "a but non lucratif" (sorry for that) which wants to promote low and mid budget productions. Why DI should only be in reach of big productions? Our DOP job uses new tools, and we need to find out new ways to reach our visions.

See you.

Patrick

Alexander Christ

12-22-2007, 05:54 AM

Almost - Light & Byte :) Is that public already? Anyway - they already supply companies like megarent etc with light and stuff, so I guess this is a logical step...

EDIT: I just found out that the information about LB is not quite correct - one of you guys could tell, right? :) Ok so what it looks like is that they do have 3 or 4 cameras reserved but they seem not to be sure yet whether or not they actually gonna get all of them. They are in contact with a swiss red owner (so who is it, guys?) and they are renting that red for a couple of weeks to test things. Then they're gonna decide which way to go. So - sorry for the misinformation, I'll keep my future posts to what I REALLY know as a fact...

I called them yesterday and yes, they want to check out the RED One and are renting a camera (I don't know from whom). I was interested in renting from them, but till now they haven't got their serial numbers.

Alexander Christ

12-22-2007, 06:37 AM

Question :
2k Real time colortiming on Scratch of 4k r3d material projected on a 9m screen in a real theater with a 2k DI Chrisite projector and a professionnal colorist for 950.-- chfr. a day and all this in Lausanne.

Are you interested?

Pat

Hi Pat,
sounds interesting, really low-priced. Two weeks ago I attended a Scratch workshop and was impressed with this software, great tool.

Damien Molineaux

11-16-2008, 07:06 AM

If I'm not mistaken, the first feature shot on Red in Switzerland has completed principal photography on Nov. 13th. The film is called "Bazar" directed by Patricia Plattner, produced by Light Night Productions and DP'd by Aldo Mugnier. Feedback is positive, Red One #500 performed flawlessly.

Congrats Red team !

Cheers,
Damien

The second swiss Red feature starts shooting on Nov. 19th with Red One #500 !

Alexander Christ

11-18-2008, 02:56 AM

Damien, Congratulations!