REDCODE as cable broadcast standard...

[JD Holloway]

While its a silly idea considering it would take decades to implement this...

How about a satellite specialty channel? A proprietary REDCODE realtime hardware converter could transcode the datastream into 4K RGB for inhouse viewing. I suppose at some level this would work for movie houses too; recording to a harddrive for cinematic projection.

I don't imagine the demand for home viewing is there yet (cough cough) but with 4k monitors coming in the near future and 4k cinema knocking at the door who knows?

A REDCODE telecine would be a great asset for film digitization. Sweet colour correction, and cheep to produce!

Then again maybe I've had too many coffees this morning:wacko:

[Michael Stanmore]

I like the way you think. 4K all the way!

[G.A. Kokes]

Here is a more appropriate forum for that discussion:

http://www.sf-fandom.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=60&forumid=43

I like the direction of your thought though. I would be happy if my HD cable simply used HDV format. However, that may take a decade or so...

Cheers,
G

[JD Holloway]

ROTFL

Nice link Kokes.

Live long and prosper. To be honest though, this isn't rocket science. Already theaters are using 2K. This could be an easy way of streamlining distribution where high speed IP is challenging.

[oldphart]

While its a silly idea considering it would take decades to implement this...

How about a satellite specialty channel? A proprietary REDCODE realtime hardware converter could transcode the datastream into 4K RGB for inhouse viewing. I suppose at some level this would work for movie houses too; recording to a harddrive for cinematic projection.

I don't imagine the demand for home viewing is there yet (cough cough) but with 4k monitors coming in the near future and 4k cinema knocking at the door who knows?

A REDCODE telecine would be a great asset for film digitization. Sweet colour correction, and cheep to produce!

Then again maybe I've had too many coffees this morning:wacko:

If somebody were to use the full capacity of a satellite transponder for just one channel, it might do justice to Red. There are a couple of cinemas here with 4k projectors.

But, it is two years since NHK demonstrated transmission of 7,680 × 4,320 Super HI-Vision over a 24 Gb/s fibre link, so your dream seems rather timid. Maybe a future 65mm Red will be a Super HI-Vision camera?

[explosive]

There are a couple of cinemas here with 4k projectors.

Just out of interest, WHAT do they project?

I thought currently cinemas had barely implemented 2k...

[JD Holloway]

Just out of interest, WHAT do they project?

I thought currently cinemas had barely implemented 2k...

True about 2k but there are a couple of 4k projectors (in LA anyway).
They would project 4k scans of films from projection print i would assume or some low-con intermediate.

[JD Holloway]

If somebody were to use the full capacity of a satellite transponder for just one channel, it might do justice to Red. There are a couple of cinemas here with 4k projectors.

But, it is two years since NHK demonstrated transmission of 7,680 × 4,320 Super HI-Vision over a 24 Gb/s fibre link, so your dream seems rather timid. Maybe a future 65mm Red will be a Super HI-Vision camera?

24 GB/s? To a house? Not in the near future obviously. And there is no 24 Gb/s fibre network in any city I know. I'm trying to avoid infastructure and think "4k to the masses". Still...thats amazing resolution.

Like cellphones in Africa. Who would have though?

Even ProRes 422 would blow current high compression HD cable delivery away (in my area anyway) but still fit in the channel bandwidth. (I could be wrong....).

[biznasty]

It's called Cinegrid and it's already happening in research projects.
Cinegrid (http://www.cinegrid.org/)
Recent 4K transatlantic stream (http://www.cinegrid.org/news/2007_07_03_holland2007.php)
I saw a presentation about this project a few months ago and was thoroughly impressed. I believe I saw RED on a slide in their powerpoint as a working group member.

They showed examples using some kind of Olympus 4k studio cameras and Jpeg2000 as a streaming format. Pretty interesting, but is a point to point solution for networked performances and multiple location post production.

[oldphart]

Just out of interest, WHAT do they project?

I thought currently cinemas had barely implemented 2k...

I suppose they do not want to install soon-to-be obsolete 2k projectors when they build new theaters. Think of it as replacement for 70mm projectors.

Anyhow, the plan in Norway seems to be all-digital 4k satellite or fiber distribution. Since all foreign movies have to be subtitled, the savings in going digital instead of making expensive copies will be substantial. Great distances and small towns mean that they have to make many copies, and each copy is not shown very many times.