M-X REEL R3D's

[Jarred Land]

Here are some downloadable R3D's from the M-X Reel, Shot awhile ago on the prototype MX cameras with the first (not finished) sensor calibration.

It's a great exercise for some of you just starting out working with R3D files to open the Raw files in Redcine-X as well as your chosen finishing tool to try match how we graded to the M-X Reel ( you can download the Reel on RED.com to compare ) .. or to try and do something completely different.

Thanks again to LightIron who did the finishing on the Reel and all the great filmmakers who took time out of their schedules to shoot this footage.



http://red.cachefly.net/R3D/London1.zip
http://red.cachefly.net/R3D/london1.jpg

http://red.cachefly.net/R3D/London2.zip
http://red.cachefly.net/R3D/london2.jpg

http://red.cachefly.net/R3D/Shirt.zip
http://red.cachefly.net/R3D/shirt.jpg

http://red.cachefly.net/R3D/R8.zip
http://red.cachefly.net/R3D/R8.jpg

http://red.cachefly.net/R3D/Mercedes.zip
http://red.cachefly.net/R3D/mercedes.jpg

http://red.cachefly.net/R3D/Glass.zip
http://red.cachefly.net/R3D/glass2.jpg

[Jean-Charles Wolfarth]

Thank you Jarred ! I really enjoyed the projection of this reel in Paris !

[George Tsai]

wow beautiful! thank for making this available!

[Joseph Hutson]

beautiful...

[Jarred Land]

Your Welcome Jean, Glad you liked it.

[Joseph Hutson]

http://red.cachefly.net/R3D/Mercedes.zip did't work...


The page you requested was not found

[Austin Neill]

awesome, thank you.. might be fun to apply some VFX to some of these shots.

[Jarred Land]

Try again Joseph.

[Brian Timmons]

Whoa!
Now this is an unexpected touch.
Thanks for this.

Brian Timmons
britim-media

[Jean-Charles Wolfarth]

Your Welcome Jean, Glad you liked it.

... and there were great pros in the audience : I noticed Jean-Pierre Jeunet (Amelie)...

[Joseph Hutson]

Try again Joseph.

Sweet action...

[Austin Neill]

3.3 MB/sec.. love this

[Jarred Land]

... and there were great pros in the audience : I noticed Jean-Pierre Jeunet (Amelie)...

I am sure some people were saying the same thing about you.. I really enjoyed your De Toute Âme, some magical moments in that piece.

[Pierre Alt]

Than you very much Jarred !

[Paolo Tinari]

Thanks.
How did you trim them R3ds?

[Sanjin Jukic]

Thanks Jarred,

I'm downloading and will have a lot of fun to play with it this Oscar's Sunday...

[Mikael Lubtchansky]

Thanks.
How did you trim them R3ds?

This can only confirm RED has their own internal trimming tool... I never doubted they did tho

but is such a tool ready yet for public release ? now that would be another cool news...

Thanks Jarred for sharing bits of those MX clips !

[Jason Ramsey]

thank you...

[Gavin Greenwalt]

This can only confirm RED has their own internal trimming tool... I never doubted they did tho

but is such a tool ready yet for public release ? now that would be another cool news...

Thanks Jarred for sharing bits of those MX clips !

Yeah. Trimming was never difficult. RED just discouraged it because of unpredictable future compatibility and difficulties with audio streams.

Since this footage definitely falls into the category of "no guarantees" and doesn't need Audio sync. They might have just manually clipped it in a Hex Editor even.

[Gunleik Groven]

Thanks!

[Milan Nikolic]

I love London aerials. Thanks Jarred!

[Sanjin Jukic]

http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/M-X_Reel_fun02.jpg
Having fun with grading R3Ds of R1-M-X reel in 4K realtime on Oscar's Sunday, March 7, 2010 in my home studio (shot on Canon 7D, ISO 1600, shutter 1/60, lens Nikon 17-35mm zoom @ f/2.8 on 17mm).

Thank you Jarred.

[Rami Mustakim]

Whouaaahhh !!!
I must say that I now fully understand what you guys did.
Working Mysterium X footage with REDCINE X is a wonderful experience.
I'm in for the bundle sensor upgrade plus a RED Rocket™™™ card.
AMAZING
BRAVO

[Jean-Charles Wolfarth]

I am sure some people were saying the same thing about you.. I really enjoyed your De Toute Âme, some magical moments in that piece.

Wow, Jarred... :001_wub:

You know, I've been following Red's adventure since the very beginning. Unfortunately I wasn't rich enough to put the $1000 deposit but this forum gave me the opportunity of meeting great people who could help me to achieve my dreams... More pictures to come soon, I hope...

Just carry on this way, you rock !

[Jan Reiff]

anyone?

is the shot with the mercedes in the shadow a grading with masked areas in an external grading system or one piece of work? its not possible in redcine x to achieve it.
is it?

[David Rasberry]

Thanks Jarred. A little footy is a big help for we who don't have cameras yet to learn the tools.

[Paolo Tinari]

anyone?

is the shot with the mercedes in the shadow a grading with masked areas in an external grading system or one piece of work? its not possible in redcine x to achieve it.
is it?

Red Hdr mode is not available yet

[Zhibo Lai]

Wow thanks Jarred. Do we have permission to recut, color, and fx-up the shots and post online? I'll be experimenting with some vfx on them.

[MichaelHalsell]

Thanks Jarred

[Manuele Trullu]

Nice present!
TNX

[Jarred Land]

Wow thanks Jarred. Do we have permission to recut, color, and fx-up the shots and post online? I'll be experimenting with some vfx on them.

You can recut, color and fx and post them here, but you cant post them on your own site and pretend you shot them :) heh heh heh.

[Jarred Land]

This can only confirm RED has their own internal trimming tool... I never doubted they did tho

but is such a tool ready yet for public release ? now that would be another cool news...

Thanks Jarred for sharing bits of those MX clips !

The R3D trim tool is still a few builds away.. Keep sending Rob chocolates if you want to see it sooner :)

[Mark L. Pederson]

The R3D trim tool is still a few builds away.. Keep sending Rob chocolates if you want to see it sooner :)

chocolates .... hmmm .....

[Tony Lorentzen]

I sent Brian Byrne and John Restivo from the Bomb Squad a box of locally produced chocolates about a year ago as a thanks for the help getting my RED drives to me as fast as possible. I'll try to see if it works with Rob ;-)

[Nook Kim]

This is way cool! :yesnod:

[Matthew Rogers]

chocolates .... hmmm .....

Chocolates really means microbrewed beer and 25 year old bottles of scotch;)

Matthew

[Eisen Feuer]

Thanks you, as was said before these are great for those of us who don't have a camera yet. The other .R3D stuff I've found around has been... uninspiring.

Until now.

[Deanan]

Chocolates really means microbrewed beer and 25 year old bottles of scotch;)

Matthew

If you send Rob chocolates, I'll have to eat them so send him belgian beer. (He's dutch but hates dutch beer)

Trimming is not trivial to do properly. It's easy to hack a trim but very hard to get all metadata streams properly trimmed and rewritten through the whole stream. If it's not done properly, it will break things.

[Jarred Land]

way to go Deanan you ruined it.... i was going to eat those chocolates. :)

[Graeme Nattress]

Chocolates are bad for all of you - stick to whisky.

Graeme

[Deanan]

way to go Deanan you ruined it.... i was going to eat those chocolates. :)

We'll still accept chocolates and will harass Rob in return while we're eating them. :)

[Clark Dunbar]

enjoy......http://www.mhd-vault.com/RED/1349-z.jpg

[Clark Dunbar]

now.... how about the red trim tool :-)

[Roberto Lequeux]

:yikes: Great!

Snow, PLEASE!!!

:001_wub:

[Hrvoje Simic]

Okay...current California temperatures seem low enough to keep the chocolate package from melting.

[Kevin Olsen]

big thanks, looking forward to play with RedCine-X with some fresh footage!

KO

[Todd M.]

F-ing awesome!!! I have been dying to get my hands on some good footage to play with. The fact that is is INCREDIBLE footage just made my day.

[Gavin Greenwalt]

The R3D trim tool is still a few builds away.. Keep sending Rob chocolates if you want to see it sooner :)

Address? :)

[Casey Green]

Jarred, thanks so much for posting these! It's great for PR reasons to release the actual original files to show the quality of the M-X sensor, but it also is very generous to allow the community to have access.

Thanks again, you guys rock!

http://www.caseygreen.tv/images/DigitalPix/R8_CC.png

[Andrew Wilding]

My god. Im just getting around to playing with these and I am so beyond blown away that there aren't really adequate words to express myself with. Grading Glasses and Mercedes put the biggest smile on my face since who knows when. Amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing work guys. Tonight's Oscar is surely the first of many for team Red....

[Adrian Pruett]

what are the most common finishing tools that everyone is using?

[Frank Weeks]

enjoy......http://www.mhd-vault.com/RED/1349-z.jpg

Damn Clark. That's some fine looking chocolate. And i'm diabetic :). See you at NAB.

[Nick Noev]

wow! thank you guys for posting this eyecandy. i mean the r3ds.

[B Stanford]

I hope Red gets a technical achievement Oscar next year!!

[Deanan]

Yes, this looks to me more like an issue within REDCINE-X in how it is scaling the image.

With the exposure pushed, grab the sizing handle of the Player Window and you will see the verticle "banding" move around and change sizes similar to a moire pattern.
Also, it seems that in the R8 Clip, the initial vertical pattern is part of the stage wall in the background, so the scaling/moire is just bringing out the vertical pattern that is already there.

In the player it's displaying both 8bit and being scaled on the graphics card.
Graphics card scaling is a crude linear interpolation and at odd scales will have sampling artifacts like that.

[Jonathan Stevenson]

I'm anxious to see these... I can't recreate this issue with any M-X footage when processed or viewed properly.

Jim
After posting those grabs this morning, I cannot seem to recreate the vertical lines again. It must be the scaling issue mentioned above, because I'm getting the same results as Jim when exporting a TIFF and doing the 1:1 crop in Photoshop. It probably is a combination of something in RedcineX and my run-of-the-mill graphics card in my laptop. I wasn't opening these R3D's on my real workstation.

EDIT: As you can see below, as I drag out the size of the player window, the banding gets more pronounced the bigger it gets. It's most obvious in the 4th one down. Then after a certain point, it goes away. So clearly it's not related to sensor calibration or anything with the actual footage.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i254/jonny168/Screenshot2010-03-08at22224PM.png

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i254/jonny168/Screenshot2010-03-08at22229PM.png

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i254/jonny168/Screenshot2010-03-08at22239PM.png

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i254/jonny168/Screenshot2010-03-08at22242PM.png

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i254/jonny168/Screenshot2010-03-08at22248PM.png

[Sanjin Jukic]

On my old MacPro 2.1, 8 core 3Ghz, 32 GB Memory, NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT, RED Rocket Card no issues at the full resolution (Fit Both) in player that plays the footage realtime.

http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/Fullres_320iso.jpg
At ISO 320.

http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/Fullres_6400iso.jpg
At ISO 6400

[Jannard]

OK... enough. The sensor rocks. There is nothing more to see except that M-X footage is even better with the firmware released after these shots were taken. Calibration made sure of that.

No more arguing allowed on this topic. :-)

Jim

[Miltos Pilalitos]

OK... enough. The sensor rocks. There is nothing more to see except that M-X footage is even better with the firmware released after these shots were taken. Calibration made sure of that.

No more arguing allowed on this topic. :-)

Jim

LOL!!! I love the RED family!!!

:emote_happyhappy:

[brian hanson]

Thanks Jarred. A little footy is a big help for we who don't have cameras yet to learn the tools.

agreed, thank for posting this!

[K. cromwell]

http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/M-X_Reel_fun02.jpg
Having fun with grading R3Ds of R1-M-X reel in 4K realtime on Oscar's Sunday, March 7, 2010 in my home studio (shot on Canon 7D, ISO 1600, shutter 1/60, lens Nikon 17-35mm zoom @ f/2.8 on 17mm).

Thank you Jarred.

Which monitor are using there (look like it say HP on the top)
and is that a 23" ACD?

[Tamas Harangi]

I have total newbie question about these samples. Forgive my ignorace. I downloaded them mainly to play with RedCine-X and FCP workflow -- my first time messing with R3D files.

I'm trying to export from RedCine-X to Quicktime, but I can't get the crop right. The R3D originals seem to be coropped to 2.40:1 but every export setting I tried to get them to a 16:9 file, squeezes them from the side into the frame. What would be the proper setting in RedCine to get a letterboxed image in a 16:9 file?

Thanks for making them available!

Tamas Harangi

[dino g]

what you can not forget everyone is that we shot this with a prototype camera with a very early build. the build changed 10+ times from 1/10 to 1/16 and has changed many times since. moreover, we used very very little light in these shots. so dissecting these shots is not really productive because you will never be able to shoot with that build again, nor would you want to.

i can tell you that the quality of the footage we are getting now with the new builds is far superior to what we did 60 days ago...rock on RED...

and glad everyone is enjoying the hard work that so many put in for free...


dino

[Jarred Land]

im going to tidy up this thread a little.. people kinda missed the point half way through.

[Rick Darge]

Which monitor are using there (look like it say HP on the top)
and is that a 23" ACD?

That's a Dreamcolor he is has..

[Casey Green]

im going to tidy up this thread a little.. people kinda missed the point half way through.

Good idea.

[Sanjin Jukic]

Which monitor are using there (look like it say HP on the top)
and is that a 23" ACD?

ACD/Apple Cinema Display 30" and HP LP2480zx DreamColor 24"

driven by old MacPro 3 GHZ, NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT, max DRAM 32 GB, REDRocket card,

AJA Kona 3, AJA Hi5 3G HDSDI to HDMI mini converter, Wave console,...

[Eisen Feuer]

I can't see the glorious stuff in 4K unfortunately, I have a Mac Pro (early 2009) Octo 2.26GHz, 8GB RAM, with the Radeon HD 4870 (best card available at the time or purchase) and RED-Cine X gives me this error when setting the proxy on full:

"Your graphics card does not support image dimensions of this size."

With the Radeon HD 4870?
Does anybody else have the same card and not get the message?

[Deanan]

I can't see the glorious stuff in 4K unfortunately, I have a Mac Pro (early 2009) Octo 2.26GHz, 8GB RAM, with the Radeon HD 4870 (best card available at the time or purchase) and RED-Cine X gives me this error when setting the proxy on full:

"Your graphics card does not support image dimensions of this size."

With the Radeon HD 4870?
Does anybody else have the same card and not get the message?

The ATI cards don't support greater than 4k textures.
We'll have a workaround for that in the future.
Newer Nvidia cards support 8k textures.

[Eisen Feuer]

Damn, that's unfortunate, but only for the mean-time. Thanks for working on a workaround!

I just found the expand button on the Detail window though, my pixel-per-pixel voyeur needs can still peer through the 295x168 keyhole ;)

[Chris Clogg]

Haha I had a bit of fun today and made this. You'll have to download it because I didn't want to post it on Vimeo or Youtube and mislead people that it's my footage. Thanks for the r3d-footage RED-team and the people who shot it!

Also, cgi models are not mine either... just did the placing/lighting/compositing and smoke.

http://www.filefront.com/15799393/mercedescgi.mov

P.S. it's not perfect nor physically correct nor real etc... just having fun with this sexy shot :D

[Radoslav Karapetkov]

Truly beautiful. I played with the shots in the new Redcine.

You guys at RED should be proud with these achievements.

[Ivan Quijada]

Since I got the files yesterday, I've been trying to work it on FCP 7 or Color 1.5 but there´s no way the applications read it the r3d, nor via log and transfer or directly on Color. I've the latest codec and red quicktime drive, but I think I'm missing something. Any help?

P.S: RedCine build 158 handles the files flawlessly and with FLUT Control.

[Nick Shaw]

Since I got the files yesterday, I've been trying to work it on FCP 7 or Color 1.5 but there´s no way the applications read it the r3d, nor via log and transfer or directly on Color. I've the latest codec and red quicktime drive, but I think I'm missing something. Any help?.

We need a new QT component before they will work in FCP, but if you have installed the new Color plugin from here (http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=41389) Color should read the R3Ds.

[richard peterson]

... just did the placing/lighting/compositing and smoke.

D

Red is great for VFX work and the new M-X sensor looks to be superior. Less rolling shutter, low light ect.

Nice! looks like a solid track. To bad the rocket missed :)

I like how you see the contrail through the back window. Did you pull the matte for the car in mocha ?

[Jarred Land]

Haha I had a bit of fun today and made this. You'll have to download it because I didn't want to post it on Vimeo or Youtube and mislead people that it's my footage. Thanks for the r3d-footage RED-team and the people who shot it!

Also, cgi models are not mine either... just did the placing/lighting/compositing and smoke.

http://www.filefront.com/15799393/mercedescgi.mov

P.S. it's not perfect nor physically correct nor real etc... just having fun with this sexy shot :D

heh heh this is so awesome.. good job!

[L. Langer]

This has hatched a somewhat silly but awesome idea in my mind for a RED community "short" for when the other cameras are ready. A 15-minute action/drama piece that uses every single RED camera and lens accessory for specific shots to highlight the various capabilities of the camera systems.

[Rick Burnett]

I wonder, has Red ever considered an uploadable user gallery for those with Red cameras to share stuff like short videos. I'd certainly be wanting to upload some of our fight scene tests when we get our scarlet.

[Austin Neill]

Haha I had a bit of fun today and made this. You'll have to download it because I didn't want to post it on Vimeo or Youtube and mislead people that it's my footage. Thanks for the r3d-footage RED-team and the people who shot it!

Also, cgi models are not mine either... just did the placing/lighting/compositing and smoke.



Good tracking, loved the lighting..

[Chris Clogg]

I like how you see the contrail through the back window. Did you pull the matte for the car in mocha ?

Used after effects and masks... just went keyframing around with several masks

[Chris Clogg]

heh heh this is so awesome.. good job!

haha thanks... it's fun doing crazy rocket/explosion cgi that makes no sense with a random mercedes...

[Andy Roberts]

In working with the Mercedes files, I can't seem to reproduce the Saturation and Value in the hills and sky while brightening the shadow areas as in the demo reel. Simple solution I am sure, but maybe someone could pass along the "look" settings for that. And I know grading is an art that takes experience, but maybe somewhere someone can post a basic grading tutorial for working with these files and the FLUT control, reading the histogram, etc. There are a lot of rookies like me who need help so that we don't mangle otherwise decent footage.

[Robb Albrecht]

Hey Jarred, I'm a little late to the game here but thanks a ton for posting these files. They're beautiful.
I'm going to take a crack at coloring these over the weekend.

[Eisen Feuer]

Also, cgi models are not mine either... just did the placing/lighting/compositing and smoke.

http://www.filefront.com/15799393/mercedescgi.mov

Haha, HL2 combine turret- excellent choice.

[Chris Clogg]

Haha, HL2 combine turret- excellent choice.

Haha you caught my secret... 5 points!

[Robb Albrecht]

haha thanks... it's fun doing crazy rocket/explosion cgi that makes no sense with a random mercedes...


Yes it is. Nice work, Chris.

[Zhibo Lai]

Like your work. what did you use to track the shot?


Haha you caught my secret... 5 points!

[Alex Atkinson]

I need a Red-rocket card to play with these at full-res. New color control is amazing. Thanks for letting the kids play

[Matus]

Thanks Jim, it´s amazing to be part of this.

[Jeffery Haas]

http://red.cachefly.net/R3D/Mercedes.zip did't work...

:confused1: CAPITALIZE the first letter in "Mercedes". :hurray:

[Ian Vertovec]

In working with the Mercedes files, I can't seem to reproduce the Saturation and Value in the hills and sky while brightening the shadow areas as in the demo reel. Simple solution I am sure, but maybe someone could pass along the "look" settings for that. And I know grading is an art that takes experience, but maybe somewhere someone can post a basic grading tutorial for working with these files and the FLUT™™ control, reading the histogram, etc. There are a lot of rookies like me who need help so that we don't mangle otherwise decent footage.

The grading for the demo reel was done on Pablo not REDcine X.
If you have access to an iQ system, I suppose I could post a settings file. But I'm not sure that would be very helpful.

Sorry.

[Esmaile Neissi]

Hi Jim
I'd like to add that you and your team finally approve that CMOSE can capture noiseless picture if managed good. and I think this is a big step for future up coming digital imaging
devices
thanks again for that sexy demo

[Alain DEUDJUI]

This is just a gut feeling i'll love to share with the RED TEAM;

"PLEASE KEEP THE UNIBODY OF THE RED ONE ALIVE FOR EPIC AND ALL THE MONSTRO EQUIPED CAMERAS."
My day dreams never lies to me and i have a lot of hope for Epic.

Thank you

[Brian J Wells]

It's a real honor to witness a company that can create something as cool as this hardware (edit: also software and lenses) both for themselves and the rest of the cinemaphotographers around the world. Thank you for these files. It gives me an opportunity to see how to use the workflow of Red. So thanks!

[Zhibo Lai]

Here's something I came up with while playing with the MX r3d's.

Grading in Redcine-X -- love this new version!
Space ship modeled in Blender
Tracking in Syntheyes
Composite in After Effects <- it still needs lot of work, but wanted to submit something before I left for vegas.

http://www.reellightfilms.com/videos/DistrictX.zip

[Sterling Wescott]

Here's something I came up with while playing with the MX r3d's.

Grading in Redcine-X -- love this new version!
Space ship modeled in Blender
Tracking in Syntheyes
Composite in After Effects <- it still needs lot of work, but wanted to submit something before I left for vegas.

http://www.reellightfilms.com/videos/DistrictX.zip

That's awesome! The Mercedes shot is particularly impressive.

[chrislancaster]

getting ready to put these through the new red cine x :cheers2:


none of the files work all say decompression failed maybe waited to long

[Benoît-Joan Clariana-Roig]

My new drug: Redcam rushes !

I hope to get mu own S35 asap to get my own rushes.

[Joseph Hutson]

This ought to be made into a sticky... :thumbup1:

[John Bannister]

Excellent! Thanks for the footage!

[Jed Shepherd]

Sorry to dig up an old thread but i downloaded the r3ds and made some quick adjustments which i thought actually made London look like its snowing. All the whites a probably beyond broadcast safe but I was just messing around. Thought i would share it.

[Lorenzo Straight]

I kinda missed this one. I'm gonna play around a little.

[Mike P.]

Now THIS is a thread worth reviving (if only to try out Alchemy.) Was the Glass.r3d clip shot using only natural light? I took it up to ISO12800 just for kicks and the noise (when downscaled to 1080p) actually had some very sweet grain-like structure. Honestly, I think it's good to go for a Blu-Ray... and if there are those that hate it; passing it through noise reduction would definitely make it workable, especially if you're coming from consumer-level footy (like DSLR or S35/1080p camcorders)... Plus it's 7.5:1 -- at 6-3:1 would be even more useable. Awesome.

[Mike Poore]

thanks for this, gonna test out redcine-X capabilities. Rad!

[Patrik Kisucky]

I just finished my first grading in a somewhat proper form (comparing to my previous tries, when jumping from tool to tool), thanks to Dan Kanes, who posted Free RCP-X tutorial. Loved it. So much freedom to do stuff. Really just can't wait to get started with my own footage. Of course after my Scarlet arrives:))

[chris layhe]

By the way, in case you want a little more to play with, we have had one or more high speed R3D files shot on an M-X R1 available for free download on our web site at http://www.redfilm.us/free_clips.html for about a year and a half now... check it out!

Chris

[Cedric Akins]

Can this be a "Sticky?"

[Eric Lange]

Thanks guys!

(Just what the doctor ordered).

Eric

[Andy Roberts]

...thanks to Dan Kanes, who posted Free RCP-X tutorial...

Where is this posting? Thanks.

[Ryan De Franco]

Dan's RedCine introduction was posted here (http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?66577-Redcine-X-Pro-Free-Tutorial).