2 DPX's Courtesy of Red 23

[Scott Webster]

*esnips account maxed out, now being mirrored by Red Guy (http://www.reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=79542&postcount=25) Thanks Red Guy!*

Graded jpegs from Baselight (http://tinyurl.com/2da2ro)

http://www.esnips.com/web/RedDPXFiles/ (http://www.esnips.com/web/RedDPXFiles/)

Cityscape Twilight 32MB Zeiss Standard 20mm

Sky Tower Twilight 32MB Zeiss Standard 180mm

2 of our favorite grabs. Exported using Red Alert 1.1, Red Log, ISO320, Sharpening Off, Detail Medium (default), no other adjustments made. Lens Zeiss Standards 2.1.

Take into photoshop, hit autolevels, change underwear.

Credits: DOP's Renaud Maire (http://www.renaudmaire.com/) and Andrew Stroud (http://www.andrewstroud.co.nz)

[Patrick Tresch]

What optic did you use?
Was the camera on tripod?

Thanks for the pictures.

Patric

[Scott Webster]

What optic did you use?
Was the camera on tripod?

Thanks for the pictures.

Patric

Sky Tower Zeiss 180mm
City Zeiss 20mm

Camera was on a Sachtler Video 60 plus with Ronford Heavy Duty Legs.

[Jaime Vallés]

I had to change my underwear. Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. Thanks for posting these, Rocketeer!

[Scott Webster]

I had to change my underwear. Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. Thanks for posting these, Rocketeer!

Yes, we are proud parents!:blush:

[Brook Willard]

Holy crap... That's awesome!

[doondoon]

how do you play/view dpx files? I've got newest Final Cut and AJA Kona 3 to HD CRT. Will FCP or AJA play?

[Alexander Nikishin]

Now that's BETTER than film! Great job champs.

[Scott Webster]

how do you play/view dpx files? I've got newest Final Cut and AJA Kona 3 to HD CRT. Will FCP or AJA play?

These are frame grabs only. Open in Photoshop for your viewing pleasure.

[David Battistella]

Holy crap... That's awesome!

ditto.

that is wild!

[casey warren]

Both excellent grabs, the cityscape is wall-framable worthy :)

[R Fogg]

Can someone please mirror these? - I am getting a "daily bandwith limit exceeded" message.

Thanks

[Casey Green]

Site says Maximum Bandwidth allowed exceeded - can someone setup a mirror or increase the bandwidth on the account? :)

[Joel Kaye]

hook up the mirror - until then toss a couple jpegs in this thread.

[Floris Liesker]

There is absolutely NO NOISE in the picture. It is so incredibly clean!
This surpasses the Milk Girls easily.
This is so much cleaner than any of the footage so far. Applause!
AT LAST! Phew.

[Evin Grant]

This looks like a friken CG render! Sooo cool!
http://www.reduser.net/evin/Skytower.jpg

[JD Holloway]

Mirror please!
6 new pairs of Cosco knickers ready to go!
Clouds look amazing for *ahem* video even in jpeg.

[Brook Willard]

This just makes me want to shoot downtown LA at sunset...

[Emmanuel Cambier]

now wait…wait… where is that mirror… I need my dayly fix quick…argh

[Casey Green]

Mirror | rorriM
Please | esaelP

[Greg M]

I'll Mirror it if someone will email it to me

[Floris Liesker]

OK, the close up does reveal a little noise. Must have been shot a little later, when it became darker.
It seems as if the noise is most visible in the 10% to 20% luma region. Under that it's just dark and it doesn't matter as much. Not that it's much, it's still way less than the 35mm example of Brook, but it's good to know where noise will appear. If any.

[Scott Webster]

I have asked for 2k samples from a Baselight grade. Will have to sort out some way of hosting them.

[Sanjin Jukic]

http://www.sanjinjukic.com/extras/Skytower.jpg
OAKLAND_NEW ZEALAND_SKYTOWER: Shake-GenArts-Sapphire-S_FilmEffect-FilmPrint-Kodak_2383


http://www.sanjinjukic.com/extras/city.jpg
OAKLAND_NEW ZEALAND_CITY: Shake-GenArts-Sapphire-S_FilmEffect-FilmPrint-Kodak_2383

[Michael Schrengohst]

City.dpx
http://www.mediafire.com/?0jfylmzzmoq

Skytower.dpx
http://www.mediafire.com/?1joxmyygn9n

[Emmanuel Cambier]

Oh thank you man… you ARE a true Red Guy:love:

[Larry McKee]

Thanks Red Guy. Downloading now.

[R Fogg]

Thanks Red Guy

[Larry McKee]

Holy crap! I even had to change my socks!

[Casey Green]

Thanks Red Guy!!!

[Michael Schrengohst]

Yes, your welcome but the real thanks
goes to Rocketeer for posting these
lovely files.
Thank You!

[Rick Darge]

Thank you both! Downloading now! That JPEG is incredible!

This next year is going to be amazing! I can't wait to begin rolling with this sucker!

[Florian Stadler]

here's a photoshop corrected one using levels, color balance and secondaries

[Casey Pegram]

Nice job on the grading, florian! Gave me the chills :)

And thanks also to the original poster for putting up these great grabs. We finally got a nice wide shot!

[Hrvoje Simic]

Ooh yeah...

[Rick Darge]

Badass OMen..

Doesn't even look real

[Jarred Land]

I think Rocketeer is gonna need some mirrors to help him out soon :)

[Michael Schrengohst]

Yes, City.dpx has been downloaded 105 times so far
and Skytower.dpx is at 68

[Rick Darge]

What do I do if my Photoshop 7 won't open or recognize this DPX file?

It opens fine in shake.. ;?

[Scott Webster]

What do I do if my Photoshop 7 won't open or recognize this DPX file?

It opens fine in shake.. ;?

If you can provide a site I'll upload tiffs.

[jbeale]

This is very pretty stuff! Thanks so much for posting & mirroring this- I also put a copy at
http://www.bealecorner.org/events/red/

There's so much clean detail in the city shot.. even the edges around the brightest lights and signs are not too bad, and I can easily imagine a filter process that could smooth those out more if desired. Looks like Red is good enough to show a bit of CA-colored edges on lights near the frame edge even with these very good quality lenses (of course, mild CA is also something that could be fixed in post if needed).

[Emanuel A.]

If you can provide a site I'll upload tiffs.It would be fine. Even JPEGs. Same case here.

[Michael Schrengohst]

If you can provide a site I'll upload tiffs.

Just use www.mediafire.com
you can load files upto 100 megs
and it is free!

[Michael Schrengohst]

What do I do if my Photoshop 7 won't open or recognize this DPX file?

It opens fine in shake.. ;?

I had to use PS CS3, PS 7 will not open them.

After Effects 7.0 can read .dpx

[SF Geek]

CS2 reads dpx fine as well.

[Jaime Vallés]

Photoshop CS1 reads DPX files also.

[Greg M]

here ya go:
www.digitalfx.tv/red/footage/city.dpx
www.digitalfx.tv/red/footage/skytower.dpx

[Jim Perry, Jr.]

in ref to Cityscape Twilight and Sky Tower Twilight

and

"That is one of the magic bits about shooting with Red - most cameras have a sensor block, then feed off to a processing block where destructive decisions (white balance, gamma, saturation, etc.) are made, THEN that output is recorded to lossy tape. Not so with Red. With Red, the image off the sensor is recorded with the lossy but high quality Redcode RAW codec, and the CHOICES of hue/sat/gamma/bright/contrast/ISO/white balance/etc. are recorded in parallel, but separate from, the image data as metadata. That way you can fully change your mind later. So the only settings that REALLY matter when you shoot are what are you looking at, what's your frame rate, frame resolution, iris, focus, composition, etc. All the color related choices (other than iris) are deferrable decisions - if you recorded with saturation run down to 10%, that's OK - you an dial it up to 150% in post and never have known it was recorded "low" - because it never was recorded with low saturation, that was just a non-destructive look, an interpretive decision, recorded alongside the "real" camera image data. So this all boils down to decisions of ISO etc. are just for convenience's sake in many ways - because you can change your mind entirely later." - http://hdforindies.com/

it seems that you can not messup a shoot save for
bad focus and under\over exposure [iris], dirt on lens etc -
Am i reading this correctly? If the image is properly lit\exposed
red's software can develop it to wonderful results?

these images wonderful

[jbeale]

Ok, "city" and "Skytower" are at the link below. I put up both the original DPX and also a 16-bit PNG version. The PNG images are bit-for-bit identical to the DPX even though they are 1/2 or 1/3 the size (!) ...PNG uses a very good quality lossless compression algorithm. The only drawback is that PS-CS2 is SLOW to save out large files in PNG format.

http://www.bealecorner.org/events/red/
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33,556,512 city.dpx
15,740,096 city.png (http://www.bealecorner.org/events/red/city.png)
33,556,512 Skytower.dpx
12,933,483 Skytower.png (http://www.bealecorner.org/events/red/Skytower.png)
---------------------------

[Tonaci Tran]

lovin my zeiss standards even more. Evin take care of my babies.

[Hrvoje Simic]

Badass OMen..

Doesn't even look real

Thanks, man. Speaking of unreal...

[Hrvoje Simic]

Thanks Rocketeer for posting the pics.

[Scott Webster]

Thanks Rocketeer for posting the pics.

Special thanks to Renaud, Andrew and Bryce the crew behind these shots.
Surround yourself with good people and get great results.

[Scott Webster]

Tiffs now available on Mediafire (http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=2ce06094e4b22845ab1eab3e9fa335ca1bf74bc4 166f0202)

[jbeale]

Tiffs now available on Mediafire (http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=2ce06094e4b22845ab1eab3e9fa335ca1bf74bc4 166f0202)

By the way, if bandwidth is an issue, you can use 16-bit-per-channel PNG which uses lossless compression to put the exact same image into fewer megabytes than TIFF or DPX. I found Skytower went down to almost 1/3 size from the original DPX when saved to PNG. Most recent software works with high bit depth PNG, I know Photoshop does.

[Emanuel A.]

Thanks for the TIFFs

5 star -- best RED ONE grabs posted so far from the production units, IMHO. It puts the competition (SI, who knows if also some film...16mm definitely) miles, kilometers away. On the other side of this (same) world?

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/7090/cityoriginal800x400vc3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
original

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/995/citycc5c800x400sm3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
CC/grading

[Rick Darge]

What's going on with the soft/dark area in the lower right hand corner. I've noticed this for a bit but haven't said anything yet.

[Jeff Kilgroe]

another mirror...

http://www.appliedvisual.com/redimages/city.dpx

http://www.appliedvisual.com/redimages/skytower.dpx

Some quick coloring fun... Wow, it's easy to push this stuff around, wish I had more time to play lately!

http://www.appliedvisual.com/redimages/purpleetower.jpg

[Keegan Flynn]

Been lurking around here for a few days, but I really like these samples so here's my shot at it...

(Click to make them big)

http://i12.tinypic.com/62fu44j.jpg (http://i11.tinypic.com/62emo1c.jpg)

http://i1.tinypic.com/4lxb98g.jpg (http://i13.tinypic.com/4oraoet.jpg)

[Scott Webster]

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/182fd73b4642c93ee4c1d6b4c8f2409b4g.jpg

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/529a036024bc11bb19216fb31f17d7e74g.jpg

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/d1e992d29316c1b2eea0c69599823e804g.jpg

[Jaime Vallés]

Spectactular images! Thanks again for posting these.

[Clayton Harper]

I LOVE THE GRADES. So amazing! I want to see the movie that has those shots!

What exactly did you do in terms of HSL, primary and secondary adjustments?

[Casey Green]

(sorry only in lower res jpg, but here goes)

City Original:
http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/971_1189145538.jpg

http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/971_1189145795.jpg

[Mark Linthicum]

Was this test shot with uncompressed or the compressed camera??

Looks great!

Mark

[jbeale]

Was this test shot with uncompressed or the compressed camera??

AFAIK, only way to get uncompressed 4k output is via the yet-unfinished optical port. (In other words, this started as the compressed Redcode .r3d file just like every other image posted this past week.)

[Mick van Rossum, NSC]

lovin my zeiss standards even more. Evin take care of my babies.

Just curious, (I own a set of 2.1's myself) how are the 32 and 28 holding up ? ( they tend to vignet on Pro 35 and the 32 also shows a bit of darkening shooting Super 35. Also since we are looking at a part of the image (2:1 not 16:9) how are the corners doing ?

Cheers

Mick van Rossum NSC

[Sam Druckerman]

Hmmm, hey guy's...

Question?

Yesterday in LA I downloaded the city & tower tiffs no problem.

But I'm out of town today and when I try to down load them from here...

http://www.mediafire.com/

I get an upload page instead of the down load page. Is it down or me?

Can someone please help?

Thanks!

[jbeale]

Right now I get the upload page there also. If you want, the files are still available on my site (in 10-bit DPX, and 16-bit PNG format). http://www.bealecorner.org/events/red/

(note 16 bits is just the PNG file type, it is a direct conversion from the 10-bit DPX so the PNG does not contain any more or any different data.)

[Joe Carney]

Hate to say this, but the tower shot looks like a CGI render, unrealistic. The city shot looks good. At 100% rez things look a little soft, but I attribute that to the limitations of the lens trying to take pictures of faraway things.

[dvpixl]

i'm amazed. this is crazy. I can't take it!

[jbeale]

Hate to say this, but the tower shot looks like a CGI render, unrealistic. The city shot looks good.
I agree the upper tower has little to no surface texture and appears un-naturally smooth. However I have not seen the tower in real life from that vantage point. If you shoot with a long lens through a bit of atmospheric haze, what does that do to fine details?

By the way, one of Canon's still life photos demoing a new DSLR (forget which, maybe the 1Ds MkII?) had people complaining it looked CGI. However it was not- just a carefully composed shot of perfectly polished silverware, no scratches and no dust, and low contrast lighting (under a light tent).

[Jeff Kilgroe]

The city shot looks good. At 100% rez things look a little soft, but I attribute that to the limitations of the lens trying to take pictures of faraway things.

Nah... The city shot was just out of focus a bit.

[Brook Willard]

Most lenses have the ability to focus just past infinity. This will lead to a slightly soft image that will generally *look* focused at infinity... but is actually a little off. I figure that happened here - the lens may have been pushed to the far stop rather than centered at infinity.

[Steve Freebairn]

Looks like I snoozed to long to help out much, but as always, we're mirroring at www.freehillproductions.com/RED/ these shots and pretty much everything else that looks like it might crash someones servers.

[GlennChan]

A slightly different approach... painting in some magic hourness light into the sky (and into the reflections on the water).

[Sam Druckerman]

Right now I get the upload page there also. If you want, the files are still available on my site (in 10-bit DPX, and 16-bit PNG format). http://www.bealecorner.org/events/red/

(note 16 bits is just the PNG file type, it is a direct conversion from the 10-bit DPX so the PNG does not contain any more or any different data.)


Thanks for the reply jbeale, I'm back home now so.... I'm glad I downloaded the tiffs before they were gone. If I had only put them on disc before I drove out of town.

LOL I just wanted to give my dad the tiffs to play with in PS...... he love's this stuff, to.

[Samuel Doyle]

Real question is .....when are you going to have it for hire Rocketeer???


:)

[bradvr]

Nice images! Keep them coming :) BH

www.shootwithred.com

[Álex Montoya]

the ability to focus just past infinity

Quite a philosophical concept the one you got there, Brook.

[Thomas Mathai]

What was the colorspace the DPX saved in from Baselight?

When opening up the DPX in Photoshop, make sure you're in 16bit mode, otherwise you're clipping out information.

After Effects 7 and up has floating point, so even more interesting color options.

Anyone take this into Color yet?

35MB a frame isn't bad. I'm always dealing with 50MB DPX from a 4k film scan, but those are at 4096x3112.

So a 90min movie extracted to DPX should be about 4.6 TB.

I wish the networking options were lot cheaper. Wonder when Infiniband will be available at Fry's.

[Thomas Mathai]

What are the conditions the Skytower image taken in?

When I look at the image at 100% in PS, I notice noise especially in the tower windows which are darker.

I attribute this to lighting conditions. Besides noise isn't a bad thing, we all could use a little texture in our images.

[Michael Brennan]

What's going on with the soft/dark area in the lower right hand corner. I've noticed this for a bit but haven't said anything yet.

Seems likely that the water at the bottom of frame is reflecting the skyline.
The bottom middle portion of the frame is brighter than the bottom left or right sides because the skyline has a brightly illuminated cloud in the center.


Mike Brennan

[Brenton]

What was the colorspace the DPX saved in from Baselight?
We transfered the shots from .r3d into baselight as 16bit log tiff, exported graded images as 16bit linear tiff.


What are the conditions the Skytower image taken in?

When I look at the image at 100% in PS, I notice noise especially in the tower windows which are darker.

I attribute this to lighting conditions. Besides noise isn't a bad thing, we all could use a little texture in our images.
It was shot at 6:15pm.

:) Brenton

[Rocco Schult]

...as 16bit log tiff...

Hi Brenton,

could you clarify 16bit log ? Or did you mean 16bit lin in both I & O ?
thanks

[Columbus]

can't wait to grade some moving footage, from want I've seen the images are far more malleable than I thought they would be. Here is my go at cc them. Taking them a bit to the extreme.

[R Fogg]

Wow, Columbus - Nice!

[Brice Ansel]

can't wait to grade some moving footage, from want I've seen the images are far more malleable than I thought they would be.
Should not take long for you now. Hie Coloumbus how was your return from the red User party saturday night?

[Columbus]

good thanks, it was nice to talk to you with the bandages off.

[R. Gonzales]

can't wait to grade some moving footage, from want I've seen the images are far more malleable than I thought they would be. Here is my go at cc them. Taking them a bit to the extreme.

That's just scary... Holy crap.

[PaulClements]

Nice Images Rocketeer. Fun to toy around with.

Paul

[Poi Boy]

Would love to see moving image, very pretty. As a still it looks pretty soft in PS but I'm thinking it would look great moving. Thanks
Aloha
-A

[Brenton]

Hi Brenton,

could you clarify 16bit log ? Or did you mean 16bit lin in both I & O ?
thanks

Using RedLog out of RedAlert (which has the options REC709 gamma, Linear Light or RED Log). We would have output 10bit DPX but were having RedAlert issues... so we went with the 16bit TIFF option (since tiff doesn't have a 10bit option and Red Alert doesn't do 8bit). Imported as Log into Baselight, graded, then exported using Linear options to 16bit TIFF.

Does that help?

Brenton