Red Store

[Gabriel C.]

Go check out the store boys ... it's different.
We've come a long way since the 3D renders.

[Kevin Halverson]

Its great to see real product images, but I can't seem to find the FD mount. Did I somehow miss it?

[Jason Francois]

Is the compact flash port standard now? I just see the cards listed. I thought at one point it was a $500 option.

[Kevin Halverson]

Another good point. Now it looks like there are at least two items that aren't present. Hope its just a case of not having images to build the page and will be rectified soon.

[john4321]

hi, anyone has infos ..
since some month i try to get a OrderId on a order i placed.
since, i send several emails, made phone calls, send faxes several times!

bot never got an answer.
does that mean red stooped selling cameras?
any more infos anyone?

[Jason Francois]

The image of the body on the site shows the CF port from what I can tell on my little computer. Doesnt' mean it's included, but that would be cool. Have to do something with that part of the camera. :)

[Stephen Gentle]

Awesome, the store looks much better now.

I wish they'd update the images in the main site to real photos though... And it would be nice to be able to hide the shopping cart bar at the bottom too.

[Laco Zamba]

I think we need 3D camera builder software :-)

[Fergus Meiklejohn]

yep maybe the flash port is now standard and other stuff is more expensive.. How much was the original basic prod pack? Now we need to buy the shoulder mount to add to it for $550, and it would seem that we'll need to buy cables for the evf and lcd seperately, although the picture of the lcd has cable and arm included. I also see that the HD drive is not listing it's capacity. I guess they'll keep upgrading it as the component hard drives get bigger and faster.

[svenson]

i think some additional infos would be nice and very helpful - maybe via a small button next to the product saying "more info".
so that dummies like me can learn, what the quicktplate or cheese plate is for.
everything else i already know ;)

[Laco Zamba]

fergus: I see shoulder mount in basic pack

[Laco Zamba]

and RED LCD includes RED ARM and CABLE (from product description)

[ChristopherKenworthy]

So RED RAM no longer exists? At SMPTE they were claiming 96GB for RED RAM. I ordered two, on the basis of that, with a hefty deposit. And now they don't exist? Am I going to be forced to use tiny little CF cards? We were planning lots of shots that last more than a minute, but if we have to use these tiny CF cards, we're in trouble. We'll be changing cards every other shot. I was so relaxed about using RED RAM. I certainly don't want to use the Red drive, as we'll be stedi-cam most of the time. I guessed this might happen when Jim hinted that the CF slot was sort of obligatory.

Can anybody confirm? Is the RED RAM dead?

[HD Hildebrand]

What about the EVF, does it not come with the Red Arm and short cable any more? I can understand if there was a discovery that some things cost a bit more then anticipated to manufacture, but it also becomes more difficult for the buyer. Hopefully it's still with it - at least for us with early commitments. Of course I want all the goodies I can, but need to be practical with budget as we as production needs. Would like to go with both monitor and EVF, but perhaps one will need to be cut or put on indefinite hold if prices mount too much.

[Michael Stanmore]

yep maybe the flash port is now standard and other stuff is more expensive.. How much was the original basic prod pack? Now we need to buy the shoulder mount to add to it for $550, and it would seem that we'll need to buy cables for the evf and lcd seperately, although the picture of the lcd has cable and arm included. I also see that the HD drive is not listing it's capacity. I guess they'll keep upgrading it as the component hard drives get bigger and faster.

The cable shown by itself looks like the optional longer cable, the cable with the EVF and the LCD looks like the short one that comes bundled with it.

[Jay A. Kelley]

I am sure they are still including the Arm with the EVF.. It would be nuts not too. Like everything else, they are still working out the kinks.

Some of the stuff gave me sticker shock, but when I added it up, it looks like you can build your own premium production pack for about the same price it was selling for.. That's very good news.

One thing I would be gratful for: Would be some sample photos of different builds of the camera and then an inventory list of what I need to buy in order to get it. So many little parts, not sure what I need.

I liked the setup at the last NAB with the 4 round handles..

Jay

[ChristopherKenworthy]

And unless I'm missing something, the Red Primes are no longer for sale.

If we've ordered primes and Red RAM, and paid a deposit, how do we transfer this deposit to other equipment. I now need to order 30 or so CF cards. How do I change my reservation?

[Jay A. Kelley]

I think we're all jumping the gun here.. As we know the site was only changed last night.. Let's give it 24 hours and see if there are any additions and/or changes.

IMHO

Jay

[JustinGD]

I have been wondering if the CF module is included now ever since Jim posted this.


RED is fluid. Things change. That is not a bad thing if the motive is good.

Change is fundamental to RED. Specs change. So far, our design and specs have changed for the better. The original RED ONE (NAB 2006) had no REDCODE RAW. Originally 4K could ONLY be recorded out the RAW port. REDCODE RAW turned out to be one of the things that makes RED so important. You now can record to Compact Flash. We didn't charge extra for it.
Jim

[Sam Druckerman]

I liked the setup at the last NAB with the 4 round handles..

Jay

Hi Jay,

Did you get to hold the cage at NAB?

Because it was Very Heavy.

I thought it looked cool.... But it wasn't practical.

[Jaime Vallés]

The store with pictures looks great!!! Thanks for putting it up, Team RED.

Well, the Base Production Pack is a real bargain! By adding up all the individual parts it becomes a lot more expensive.

One question... What is the length of the rods included in the base production pack? Is it 24"?

[Paul Hazlett]

i think some additional infos would be nice and very helpful - maybe via a small button next to the product saying "more info".
so that dummies like me can learn, what the quicktplate or cheese plate is for.
everything else i already know ;)

A cheeseplate is a plate for cheese of course. heheh

actually you can use it for mounting the camera. many holes many possibilities.

but I think a more info button or exploded view would be helpfull

[Jeff Kilgroe]

I have been wondering if the CF module is included now ever since Jim posted this.

I saw that too, but I thought it happened because the RED DRIVE wasn't ready and everyone in the first 25 group had no other option besides shooting CF. That would be cool if the CF module is now standard.

[Kevin Halverson]

This is all speculation and will likely be put to rest soon enough, but as it is of much interest to many users, it does seem to justify a bit of discussion.

We might be dealing with something as simple as the website being in transition and many of the MIA options will soon be populated when they get real photographs to include.

The CF port is a virtual necessity as this is the firmware update path (at least for now).

My suggestion to the web page designer would be that a lot of concern on the part of viewers about potentially dropped options could be avoided by have a single category of coming soon with just a text list of options not yet fully included in the latest store build.

[Matt Uhry]

Nice Work !! The stuff looks great, well designed.

Could you make the Red Cradle more modular so that if we are not using the Red Drive we can remove the middle section ( and basically make it act like Red Quick )

Matt Uhry
www.mattuhry.com

[Zakaree Sandberg]

guys.. not everything is available yet and thus not pictured or ready for order. When it comes available we will take some sweet ass pics and put them up.. canon mount not available yet, Red Ram is not available yet, CF module is still a $500 option, cables and arm comes with evf and lcd, red prime set is not available yet but will be...
its all coming:)

[Jay A. Kelley]

guys.. not everything is available yet and thus not pictured or ready for order. When it comes available we will take some sweet ass pics and put them up.. canon mount not available, Red Ram is not available yet, CF module is still a $500 option, cables and arm comes with evf and lcd, red prime set is not available yet but will be...
its all coming:)

Told ya. :bleh:

[HD Hildebrand]

Told ya. :bleh:

I believe my 5 year old daughter has a pattent on that expression. So be warned, use it again and you may suffer her wrath! And believe me, you don't want to go there. :ranting2:

[Jason Laramy]

store looks great! If the canon mount isnt listed can I still reserve it? or will it be readily available?

[Joel Kaye]

Hi Jay,

Did you get to hold the cage at NAB?

Because it was Very Heavy.

I thought it looked cool.... But it wasn't practical.

Ditto - I grabbed that thing and said to myself - "no way in hell... too heavy". I mean, I go to the gym, but I don't want to bring barbells with me on every shoot. :-)

[Unwounded]

guys.. not everything is available yet and thus not pictured or ready for order. When it comes available we will take some sweet ass pics and put them up.. canon mount not available yet, Red Ram is not available yet, CF module is still a $500 option, cables and arm comes with evf and lcd, red prime set is not available yet but will be...
its all coming:)

Totally understandable and I wasn't worried about things mysteriously "going away" but it seems like it might be a smart thing to do to at least have place holder "coming soon" spots for these things. Not for the reduser community (who could all probably recite the list from memory) but for the casual Red "Lookie Lou's", especially with all the IBC attention at the moment. Just a thought.

[Jannard]

Is the compact flash port standard now? I just see the cards listed. I thought at one point it was a $500 option.

It is a $500 option that is not mandatory. But we STRONGLY recommend that every customer consider it. So far, every camera has gone out with it.

We will continue to add accessories as they become available. Birger Engineering is handling all the Canon mounts.

Jim

[Jannard]

So RED RAM no longer exists? At SMPTE they were claiming 96GB for RED RAM. I ordered two, on the basis of that, with a hefty deposit. And now they don't exist? Am I going to be forced to use tiny little CF cards? We were planning lots of shots that last more than a minute, but if we have to use these tiny CF cards, we're in trouble. We'll be changing cards every other shot. I was so relaxed about using RED RAM. I certainly don't want to use the Red drive, as we'll be stedi-cam most of the time. I guessed this might happen when Jim hinted that the CF slot was sort of obligatory.

Can anybody confirm? Is the RED RAM dead?

The RED RAM is coming. It will show back up as soon as we receive 2.5" SATA flash that is fast enough. Certainly by the end of the year.

The only thing that has gone away is the Premium Package.

Jim

[Sanjin Jukic]

To put the Premium Package away is a very good idea.

[Eric MacIver]

guys.. not everything is available yet and thus not pictured or ready for order. When it comes available we will take some sweet ass pics and put them up.. canon mount not available yet, Red Ram is not available yet, CF module is still a $500 option, cables and arm comes with evf and lcd, red prime set is not available yet but will be...
its all coming:)

Does that mean the 50-150mm zooms are available? :)

[Gianny Trutmann]

yeah is the 50 to 150 available

[Jeff Tanner]

Guys...read the posts from the RED Team. The only thing that will not be available is the premium production pack. Everything else is still on track to be available by the end of the year (tentatively).

Rest easy, everything that we've been told up to this point has been accurate and there is no reason to start doubting now.

Respectfully,

Jeff

[dvpixl]

Why can't more camcorders use CF? somebody just tell me why.

that new store makes me wanna buy everything.

[dvpixl]

wait.... I'm sorry for maybe indirectly calling the RED camera a mere camcorder.

[shaftbond]

while we're nitpicking:

when you click on an item, it says "100% Statisfaction Guaranteed" to the right. I think you mean "Satisfaction" :)

new store looks great guys.

[ChristopherKenworthy]

The RED RAM is coming. It will show back up as soon as we receive 2.5" SATA flash that is fast enough. Certainly by the end of the year.

The only thing that has gone away is the Premium Package.

Jim

Thank you so much for that. Late at night, half asleep, I let myself worry. I should have known better.

[Michael Schrengohst]

Why can't more camcorders use CF? somebody just tell me why.

that new store makes me wanna buy everything.

I think that is the point.

[jbeale]

when you click on an item, it says "100% Statisfaction Guaranteed" to the right. I think you mean "Satisfaction" :)


Apart from one misspelling, the store looks excellent! I'm looking forward to seeing some descriptive writeups on the lenses, also.

[Häakon]

It is a $500 option that is not mandatory. But we STRONGLY recommend that every customer consider it. So far, every camera has gone out with it.
To be fair, if no RED-DRIVEs are ready yet, then it's the ONLY option anyone has to shoot with the RED ONE right now. So unless there were a lot of people expected to show up and buy a $17,500 paperweight, I think it's pretty clear why "every camera has gone out with it." :)

That being said, I think there is enormous potential with the CF option, and as capacities rise and prices continue to fall (I think RED's 8GB 300x card at $199 is great!), it will probably be the only way people use the camera in the future. The drives are important right now because they're the only way we can shoot a longform event or documentary with the camera, but they're also bulky and fragile. Solid state is definitely the way to go if your production allows for it.

[Michael Schrengohst]

Apart from one misspelling, the store looks excellent! I'm looking forward to seeing some descriptive writeups on the lenses, also.

I can't get no Statisfaction!

[liquidigital]

It is a $500 option that is not mandatory. But we STRONGLY recommend that every customer consider it. So far, every camera has gone out with it.

We will continue to add accessories as they become available. Birger Engineering is handling all the Canon mounts.

Jim

Hello all, I didn't see this option when I was ordering my cam, or in the store. How can I ensure that my cam is shipped with the CF included? Discussed at time of shipping, or time of ordering? Thanks and sorry for the confusion.

[jbeale]

Hello all, I didn't see this option when I was ordering my cam, or in the store. How can I ensure that my cam is shipped with the CF included?

I don't speak for Red, but from what I've seen they've shown every sign of having common sense*. So when your camera is ready, if the storage option you ordered isn't ready yet, I'm pretty sure they will check with you before shipping you a camera that can't record.

*Not intended as sarcasm. Some other manufacturers do not display common sense.

[Joel Kaye]

I can't get no Statisfaction!

"Statisfaction" should be the Headline on the RED specifications page. On on their ads.

[dvpixl]

Are RED CF cards available for immediate shipping?

[Jannard]

Are RED CF cards available for immediate shipping?

Yes.

Jim

[dvpixl]

NICE! thank you

[liquidigital]

... So when your camera is ready, if the storage option you ordered isn't ready yet, I'm pretty sure they will check with you before shipping you a camera that can't record.


I guess what I was trying to illustrate is that I would have opted for the CF Module when I ordered, but did not see the option. Not sure if I missed anything. Thanks