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Rick Darge
01-29-2007, 10:21 PM
...and how awesome my images will be from here on.. No seriously, I can't stop day-dreaming about this thing - I am a nerd at heart - I think I need to block this website from my computer

I remember after I put my $1K down for a reservation last summer, I purposely went out of my way to avoid any and all new information from RED, I wanted to be surprised after it was released and the less info I knew, the better my obsessive mind would be.. Then I read Mike Curtis' blog entry a few months ago about how silky smooth Red's images looked and how revolutionary this thing was going to be and POP!! Pandora's box rushed opennn

thanks a lot Jannard for ruining my life! :(

Jason Francois
01-29-2007, 10:40 PM
I'm with you. I'm on here all the time. If there isn't much activity, i start to get a bit nervous and impatient. :)

To make matters worse, I'm a director and don't really need this camera, but DAMNIT, I want it and it's tearing me apart at the seams. How can I be so reckless? :)

Maybe Jarred and Jim have put subliminal images in the site. Maybe that's why we can't block this website from our computers.

Shawn Nelson
01-29-2007, 10:59 PM
Yeah me too guys...

Though i'm now channeling it into pre-production for two micro shorts (5 pages apiece) that I will shoot on my Red. My excitement for Red is making me put more prep into those shorts than anything I've ever done! One is a 12th century Danish short and the other takes place in 2044. Two good extremes for Red #27 :-)

Jason Francois
01-29-2007, 11:10 PM
Good luck Shawn. It's nice to see that people recognize that this camera will reward extra preparation and care and maybe not the opposite.

Shawn Nelson
01-29-2007, 11:20 PM
Thanks man. Yeah this camera is causing me to up my game to a whole new level. I got the reservation back on NAB 06, and ever since then I've been doing everything I can to up my game. This camera is an opportunity. It's like being a mercenary and for years you've only had your little machine gun then you realize that you'll get a big red tank, so you can do much bigger jobs. It now means you're playing with the big boys and better plan the sh1t out of everything if you don't want to get blown out of the water. I don't want to be the one responsible for turning out crappy Red footage

Chris Gearhart
01-30-2007, 08:32 AM
I don't want to be the one responsible for turning out crappy Red footage

Heh. Me too. I hope everyone has that attitude.

Mardi_Gras
01-30-2007, 10:09 AM
To safeguard against this, I think Jim should personally embark on a Raid of all Red-picture-trashers, (amatuers and pros alike) when that time comes, ala James Bond 00-Red

Jeff Kilgroe
01-30-2007, 10:20 AM
:eek: Judging by what I've been shooting lately, I'll probably be first on his hit-list. :(

Erik Rangel
01-30-2007, 10:47 AM
:eek: Judging by what I've been shooting lately, I'll probably be first on his hit-list. :(
Lots of res #'s in front of you...:D

Jeff Kilgroe
01-30-2007, 10:59 AM
Yep, like you! :D Considering we both shot the same stuff (and you a lot more of it) this weekend, you're definitely on the hit list. Hehehe.

Erik Rangel
01-30-2007, 11:14 AM
DOH! That's ok.
I have a few months left to practice my bow staff skills...nunchuck skills...
/napolean dynamite

Jared VanLeuven
01-30-2007, 02:38 PM
But I still love technology...

Always and Forever. Always and Forever.

:D

Jeremy Hughes
01-30-2007, 07:17 PM
I really think about it way too much too. And I don't even have a reservation (here that Emanuel?).

I think about this camera all the time. I'm not a videographer, filmmaker or ENG. I don't do anything with camera's, I'm just a hobbyist. I've been studying video since around NAB '06 (when I first heard of the RED ONE), and I now fit in with the rest of the group over at DVXuser and here at REDuser. I would love to have the camera! But I can't afford it. This is the awful truth about me. :(

But still I am a RED addict, I check the site every hour. And can't think of anything other than it. It's my ticket to fulfill my life. I can become everything I want to. So RED is my power for life! But I don't have a reservation.

Red has been my favorite colour my whole life.

Stephen Gentle
01-31-2007, 12:56 AM
I really think about it way too much too. And I don't even have a reservation (here that Emanuel?)


But still I am a RED addict, I check the site every hour. And can't think of anything other than it. It's my ticket to fulfill my life. I can become everything I want to. So RED is my power for life! But I don't have a reservation.

I'm in the same boat :p

Hopefully I'll be able to get a RED in about 6 or 7 years... Do you think the price will have gone down by then?

-Stephen

Corrado Silveri
01-31-2007, 05:00 AM
I'm crazy about this.
The worst thing is that I cannot look at "any" material realized with our current camera sets without being worried...

I have to reset my aesthetic sense...

Michael Schrengohst
01-31-2007, 06:03 AM
I'm crazy about this.
The worst thing is that I cannot look at "any" material realized with our current camera sets without being worried...

I have to reset my aesthetic sense...

You mean reset in terms of why would anyone record an image with any other camera besides a RED after the RED is released?

Rick Darge
01-31-2007, 09:25 AM
That's how I feel about my lowly HVX-200 - And to think last March I thought it was the greatest camera since sliced bread

Jeff Kilgroe
01-31-2007, 09:46 AM
Same here with my HVX... I shot some greenscreen stuff with it a few days ago though and I'm rather pleased with bits and pieces of it. Some of it turned out really good, even though we had trouble getting the screen lit just right and we were in an extreme rush. But looking closer at it, and just the 720p output in general, all I can say is.. "meh". The anticipation of RED has elevated my standards I guess.

Ken Corben
02-12-2007, 06:09 PM
The possibilities seem to continually evolve in my mind. I see projects from large format 3-D to features to HD TV that heretofor required exorbitant budgets and now can be shot with equipment I will own.

Ultimately, it is the story not the technology however RED has tilted the scale on this statement just a tad, NO?

Phil Becque
02-13-2007, 03:31 AM
I really think about it way too much too. And I don't even have a reservation (here that Emanuel?).

I think about this camera all the time. I'm not a videographer, filmmaker or ENG. I don't do anything with camera's, I'm just a hobbyist. I've been studying video since around NAB '06 (when I first heard of the RED ONE), and I now fit in with the rest of the group over at DVXuser and here at REDuser. I would love to have the camera! But I can't afford it. This is the awful truth about me. :(

But still I am a RED addict, I check the site every hour. And can't think of anything other than it. It's my ticket to fulfill my life. I can become everything I want to. So RED is my power for life! But I don't have a reservation.

Red has been my favorite colour my whole life.

Some thoughts for you?

Why am I so passionate about this project?

If a RED camera dropped in my lap today, what would I do with it?

What do I most want to do for the rest of my life?

If I could 'snap my fingers' and suddenly be doing something different - what would it be?

What do I dream of accomplishing over the next 10-20 years?

Then make a list of determinations. e.g. 'I want to make a 90 minute documentary feature film on the importance of bacteria' or 'I want to be valued in my place of work and earn at least $200K per annum' be specific.

I would encourage you to write them down on a piece of paper, put it in an envelope - seal it - and put it somewhere so you can see it everyday. Nail it to the wall in your bedroom if you like. But don't put it out of sight in a cupboard.

Then go and buy a small note pad.

Now here's the tough bit, this requires discipline over an extended period of time:

Every morning, after breakfast, sit in front of your envelope and say out loud:

"The things in that envelope are important to me. What am I going to do to make them happen?"

Give yourself a few minutes and write down everything that comes into your mind in your note pad, whether or not they seem related to the determinations. Do not filter your thoughts just write everything down.

'Thankyou letter to Aunt Nellie, take dog to the vet, contact the local camera club, buy a nail clipper, check on short film courses, etc etc '

Here's some examples from my note pads:

http://www.reduser.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=137&stc=1&d=1171364313

When you have finished say "Thankyou" - you are thanking yourself but it is important for you to hear it. One of the main reasons people don't get what they want out of life, is because they fail to express gratitude on a daily basis.

When someone helps you with something from your note pad be sure to express gratitude. e.g. 'I deeply appreciate what you have done for me today, if there is anything I can do in return, please let me know.' Or 'I know you like red wine, I thought you might this bottle of Margaux' . Then you just have to be as good as your word and you will naturally build a network of co-workers who can help you achieve your goals.

Carry your note pad around with you and then take the appropriate actions as suits your schedule. At the end of the day sit in front of your envelope, open your note pad and put a tick beside or through every completed entry.

Express gratitude by celebrating if you have accomplished something (as simple as making a phone call to clinch an interview) that was difficult for you to do. I often have a cigar and some Cognac.

After a year or so you should be well on your way. You will probably have forgotten exactly what is in the envelope - that's fine. If you keep this up every day then after ten years you should open your envelope. You'll be surprised how close you are to achieving what you wanted.

Give it a go - you have nothing to loose. It has worked for me many times.

All the best. Phil

PaulClements
02-13-2007, 04:11 AM
Wow Phil, alot of these kinds of things often come across as those life altering programs which have really annoying rich people telling you how to better yourself and I respect you for simply posting it - many wouldn't. It is very true though that unless you make those plans and stick to them and have something like that which you suggest then you won't make much headway, all to often I think of something incredible and it gradually gets pushed to the back of my mind, not forgotten, just not acted upon. I might just give it a go!

Phil Becque
02-13-2007, 06:30 AM
Wow Phil, alot of these kinds of things often come across as those life altering programs which have really annoying rich people telling you how to better yourself and I respect you for simply posting it - many wouldn't. It is very true though that unless you make those plans and stick to them and have something like that which you suggest then you won't make much headway, all to often I think of something incredible and it gradually gets pushed to the back of my mind, not forgotten, just not acted upon. I might just give it a go!

Hi Paul, I'm not particularly rich - though like you - I did have enough money for a deposit.

I hope my previous post didn't come across as trying to tell someone how to better themselves - because I think everyone is, in a sense, perfect as they are. I'm not trying to be a self appointed self help guru.

What Ocular was saying seemed to me to be more like, "I haven't reached my full potential and I have no starting point".

Everyone's starting point is right where they are. You don't have to try and become someone else - that's stupid.

Many people lack discipline and if you are going to reach your full potential then I think everyone needs some kind of structure - or good habits - to live by. One certainly needs a bias for action - because 'success' is a moving target.

I have posted elsewhere about my eight year documentary project. It didn't just happen by itself. It was always there as a potential - but it took a lot of effort and discipline to actualize it. Mostly it was talking people into doing something they already wanted to do.

Like you say "all to often I think of something incredible and it gradually gets pushed to the back of my mind, not forgotten, just not acted upon." This is true of so many people I meet. I think that's really sad.

You have a creative gift - it's a gift remember so you can't loose anything by following your ideas. Not all of them will work out the way you want or expect. Some worse, some better. The point is that you owe it to yourself to give it a go!

I am now 55 and my only regret is that I didn't have the confidence to back my own ideas when I was 35.

All the best, Phil

PaulClements
02-13-2007, 08:54 AM
All good wise words Phil and no it didn't come across like you were trying to tell people how to better themselves, I was trying to get across the point that alot of the times suggestions such as yours come from individuals on TV that pain you to take advice from (I can't think of the TV program I'm thinking of but it's that couple who shout "Good morning world" and are slightly odd but v wealthy). And because they come from people in sometimes a rather odd manner others tend to not accept the ideas (Myself included) when in truth many of us (Again myself included) would actually do well to listen to it!

I completely agree with everything you've written and know exactly where you are coming from. I just need to get into better habits myself!

Paul