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Evin Grant
09-09-2007, 02:01 PM
As you may remember the first clip we posted form the OCRT was a car driving in a garage under available light. It looked pretty good in 720 but the 4K tiff left a litle to be desired. Check it out again if you like.
http://www.reduser.net/evin/PSgarage.tif

After a week and many late nights working in Red Alert I think I've got a pretty nice looking 1080 clip now. The only reason I'm using 1080 is that it dosen't seem to suffer from the same quicktime issues as 2K clips do.
Remeber this clip is 2-3 stops underexposed! There is some shadow noise but it's very well controlled now. I feel like this clip could easily be projected to theater sizes and hold up fine. Here you go...

Cntl Click to download
http://www.freehillproductions.com/RED/garage1080.mov

Ryan Sims
09-09-2007, 02:08 PM
OK Evin, how do you get a 48MB TIFF up on Reduser.net? Us lowly members seem to be limited to 2MB files in 10MB folder.

Seung Han
09-09-2007, 02:16 PM
Nice...

Just curious, what happened to the blue channel in the original TIFF, or was this already sussed out?

Evin Grant
09-09-2007, 02:21 PM
OK Evin, how do you get a 48MB TIFF up on Reduser.net? Us lowly members seem to be limited to 2MB files in 10MB folder.

Moderation has it's privledges, and it's pitfalls, the LnAcc clip crashed the site for a few hours becasue everyone and thier mother in law was downloading it at the same time. I have my own speical area because of the lens testing.

Evin Grant
09-09-2007, 02:22 PM
Nice...

Just curious, what happened to the blue channel in the original TIFF, or was this already sussed out?

Inexperience. Doing much better now.

Kevin Halverson
09-09-2007, 02:23 PM
OK Evin, how do you get a 48MB TIFF up on Reduser.net? Us lowly members seem to be limited to 2MB files in 10MB folder.

Reduser.net isn't hosting the file, so the limits here don't apply. Look at the URL, its being hosted by another site.

Brook Willard
09-09-2007, 02:26 PM
Have you been shooting more, Evin, or still playing with the original OCRT footage?

Joel Kaye
09-09-2007, 02:29 PM
As you may remember the first clip we posted form the OCRT was a car driving in a garage under available light.


EDIT - I see this was a nightime shot now... pretty impressive.

I played with the original tiff and I thought I could grade the interior garage to look like anything... daytime, middle of the night. Great.

Rick Darge
09-09-2007, 02:32 PM
Thanks Evinmesiter

Seung Han
09-09-2007, 02:34 PM
Inexperience. Doing much better now.

The frame looks great, vast improvement. Your footage has been really informative, thanks for posting them!

Ryan Sims
09-09-2007, 02:40 PM
That TIFF is quite different. Is this color correction or just different settings in REDALERT? I guess there really is no way to compare images until we can have REDCODE RAW files to play with in REDCINE. Uncompressed TIFFs and DPXs may not really tell the truth.

Evan Owen
09-09-2007, 02:48 PM
That TIFF is quite different. Is this color correction or just different settings in REDALERT? I guess there really is no way to compare images until we can have REDCODE RAW files to play with in REDCINE. Uncompressed TIFFs and DPXs may not really tell the truth.

OK, I don't know what I'm doing wrong. The new PSgarage.tif is pixel-for-pixel identical with the one I have dated from Sept. 2. Is it just being cached or something? I downloaded it twice, just to be sure, but I'm still seeing no difference.

:blink:

[EDIT] Never mind, I realized the new file is the 1080 clip, not the tiff... sorry... :biggrin:

Ryan Sims
09-09-2007, 02:55 PM
The TIFFs are different as well. Less color noise in the new TIFF.

Evin Grant
09-09-2007, 02:58 PM
Guys that IS the old tiff, it's for reference only. It's the 1080 H264 that's new.

Evan Owen
09-09-2007, 02:58 PM
The TIFFs are different as well. Less color noise in the new TIFF.

They have exactly the same creation date. :mellow:

Am I missing something?

Ryan Sims
09-09-2007, 03:20 PM
[QUOTE=Evin Grant;81154]As you may remember the first clip we posted form the OCRT was a car driving in a garage under available light. It looked pretty good in 720 but the 4K tiff left a litle to be desired. Check it out again if you like.
http://www.reduser.net/evin/PSgarage.tif

This TIFF looks different than the one I downloaded last week from here:
http://www.freehillproductions.com/RED/garage.tiff

Evan Owen
09-09-2007, 03:28 PM
Guys that IS the old tiff, it's for reference only. It's the 1080 H264 that's new.

Oh yeah, Evin. That's what I'm talking about... how is it that just a few settings in REDAlert! can make such a difference? Is it really that hard? I'm sure REDCine will be easier to work with.

Anyway, my fears have completely disappeared. This is awesome.

Steve Freebairn
09-09-2007, 04:14 PM
Reduser.net isn't hosting the file, so the limits here don't apply. Look at the URL, its being hosted by another site.

The least that we (strongbad_2z, shutter, and kinobairn) can do to contribute to such a great online community.

Álex Montoya
09-09-2007, 11:59 PM
I don't get, Evin. There's more resolution in the mov than in the grab. AND it shows far less fringing in the higlights.

Are you sure you have not been playing with the tiff?

Evin Grant
09-10-2007, 12:07 AM
Just copy and pasted the link from the original thread.

Zach Hilton
09-10-2007, 01:44 AM
This version looks so much better than the original. I'm truly impressed at how it handles the low light, available light situations. Granted, this is just the tip of the iceberg. Hope to see more. Thanks!

Evan Owen
09-10-2007, 05:50 AM
I don't get, Evin. There's more resolution in the mov than in the grab. AND it shows far less fringing in the higlights.

Are you sure you have not been playing with the tiff?

Yeah, I was kinda confused at first too. PSgarage.tif is still the original grab he posted more than a week ago. It has a few issues because of the way it was processed. Instead of re-exporting that one frame, he reprocessed the whole clip as garage1080.mov and reposted the original link to PSgarage.tif so we could compare.

Thanks again, Evin. :biggrin:

Paul Leeming
09-10-2007, 08:08 AM
In this thread is the perfect example of why shooting RAW is such a benefit! you have the ORIGINAL data, so as the software side evolves you can actually re-process your footage to take advantage of it. Great stuff!!