This is how we roll in Oregon :-)

[Shawn Nelson]

Filmed: Tonight, Sep 12
Red Settings: ASA 1000, Shutter 1/48.
Red Zoom: 50mm, infinity

Brought into Red Alert, crushed the blacks, popped the color.

A big thanks to Ken (Chazmo) who assisted in this shoot, the post processing and is hosting the file!

Encoded at H264 1k for the web, best quality. The minor banding in the sky is just the h264, no banding in Red!

Enjoy, this is what we shoot in Oregon :-)

Please right click and save as to not destroy Ken's bandwidth, mirrors appreciated.

http://brainspasm.com/red/ThisIsHowWeRollInOregon.mov

[Jason Francois]

Very nice. Makes me homesick for some PNW water and sunsets.

That held together so nicely I can't even believe it.

Thanks for sharing...and shoot on.

J.

[Evin Grant]

Nice stuff Sawn!

[Mark Thorpe]

Nice hues mate, keep it going. It's actually quite amazing given the recent travels of #27 and the 'tests' it's endured!

[Tonaci Tran]

love the colors!

[Roberto B]

after so much tease around the #27.. and so many beta testers involved between europe and palau.. :wink: it had to be something watchable.. thx shawn.. you should be proud of your beta testers too..

edit
ah! alejandro sends cheers to you!

[Daniel Wood]

nice, where in oregon???

[Rick Darge]

Shawn that's f-ing awesome looking

[Andrew Benz]

Shawn you magnificent bastard...

Thank you for the footage and the silky, flying feathered, friend to go with the beautiful sunset.

[P Andersson]

love it

[Mr. Paul White]

Can anyone post JPEGs please? I'm in dial-up. Thank you.

[Jannard]

So Shawn... are you happy? !!! :-) This looks great.

Jim

[jbeale]

That is a very beautiful shot! Thanks for sharing it. By the way, I see the minor banding in QuickTime Player, but I do not see any banding in VLC player (both on WinXP, using a CRT monitor.)

At under 5 meg, I doubt you need a mirror, but anyway it's here:
http://www.bealecorner.org/events/red/

[bradvr]

Great looking shot. Love the composition and the bird taking off. Nice. Thanks for posting.

[Brook Willard]

Nice!

[Shawn Nelson]

So Shawn... are you happy? !!! :-) This looks great.

Jim

I can't stop smiling my friend :-)

[Ken K]

Heh, don't worry about burning through my bandwidth... I have 1TB/mo to burn. :)

This was shot in the Portland area (Milwaukie), overlooking the Willamette River. The bird was a local SAG we got last minute.

[C.H.Haskell]

#27!!! Shawn...keep it coming man, well done. This looks timeless...fantastic man. Did I mention I want to move to Oregon? Haha...I am not kidding actually...after driving through for my 1st time last week on my way back from Black Rock Dessert I fell in love with Oregon. What a great place to take the RED for a spin, look forward to seeing more.

Gnight!

[Sam Druckerman]

Shawn, that kills.

How about some more....

[Steve Sherrick]

Shawn, it looks great man, only complaint is that there's a lot of compression in the sky...

sorry couldn't resist, I've been complaining a lot about compression lately so I had to joke about it. Overall I'm really enjoying what I'm seeing. Can't wait until we see even more developements in the coming months. Sounds like by end of October we should see a full feature set with some of the bugs worked out.

Steve

[Sanjin Jukic]

Shawn, thanks.

The best test shot till now.

Pushing the sensor limits with a nice shot...

[Emanuel A.]

Can anyone post JPEGs please? I'm in dial-up. Thank you.It's less than 5 MB, no worries http://clicksmilies.com/s1106/grinser/grinning-smiley-003.gif !

EDIT -- Shawn, any filter used?

[Brice Ansel]

Shawn I love your low light stuff, keep continue the good work.
Brice

[Terry Delahunt]

Great looking shot. Love the composition and the bird taking off. Nice. Thanks for posting.

Yes..the composition and the bird .. great! Thanks!

Well done Shawn! Have fun!

regards,

[Emmanuel Cambier]

Thanks Shawn, lookin' good.
How about a 2k or 4k Tiff or PNG without tomuch done in Red Alert so we can play on our own?

[Seung Han]

Great to see a beautiful landscape image like that, and the bird is like poetry in motion...

[Shawn Nelson]

Here's the 2k Tiff with only the default RedAlert settings (without our tweaks)
http://brainspasm.com/red/TypicalOregonSunset.tiff

[Robert Mott]

that is incredible

[Adam C Lubkin]

Beautiful shot, Shawn. Compared to the tiff or H264 images, how dark did the scene look to your eye?

Thanks for the match shot too. It's great to see the possibilities.

[Hrvoje Simic]

Nice work, Shawn.


I pushed that tiff a bit.

[Brandon Rice]

uh.... Shawn... I'm coming to Oregon and you're shooting a short for me! ha ha. this is freakin' beautiful man... the colors, and the latitude is just fantastic!

[jbeale]

One thing I'm curious about: the picture looks great to my eye, even though I see from the 16-bit TIFF posted that a significant area around the sunset has a clipped red channel (not just a few pixels, see thresholded image below). But I never would have guessed it from looking at the original image posted; this picture still works, so apparently the rule about not allowing a lot of clipped pixels in the histogram is not really a rule, and this shot does have the optimum exposure? After all if there were no clipped pixels, you'd loose a stop or two in the dark areas. So if it's not always just "avoid lots of clipping", then how do you tell what the perfect exposure is?

http://www.bealecorner.com/D30/misc/RED-TypicalOregonSunset-clipped.png

[Zakaree Sandberg]

shawn, loving your footage posts!

[Álex Montoya]

How comes it is so soft?

[jbeale]

Here's a random thought: digital clipping in cameras has similarities to digital clipping in audio recording. For some decades, the rule in digital audio has been "if it's clipped, it's gone forever". But that is not exactly true: there are many programs that have clipping restoration features. I use Cool Edit 2k, (now Adobe Audition) which can do this. These programs look at the good data to either side of the hard clip area and then extrapolate a smooth curve into the clipped region. The result is not perfect, of course, but it's often good enough to save a take with only slight to moderate clipping.

So: why not apply the same idea to photos also?

[jbeale]

How comes it is so soft?
Looks very nice to me. But if you'd rather have it sharper, I bet you could do that by stopping down- given the conditions (he mentioned ISO 1000) I suspect the lens was used wide open.

There is speculation that the Red 18-50 is optically similar to the Sigma 18-50mm F2.8 EX DC MACRO because it has the same focal length, same image size, same F-stop, similar (?) minimum focus: http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/lenses_all_details.asp?id=3320&navigator=6

Like most lenses, it is softer when wide open, especially at 50mm as it was used here: http://www.topicpoint.com/sigma_18-50mm/index.html

[Justin Kirchhoff]

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6756/typicaloregonsunset2tf9.gif (http://imageshack.us)
crappy gif...

[jbeale]

actually that's about the prettiest animated GIF I've seen! I haven't seen this footage before, is this a timelapse from the same red shoot?

[Adam Jeal]

Shawn - This shot rocks! Niiiice work man!

adam

[Ryan E. Walters]

I'm impressed with the lattitude that you got with this camera- it is looking great. I'm very impressed by the images you can get, as well as being able to play with them in post- very, very exciting indeed. :)

[IAN SUN]

Shawn I am in love with that shot.:love:

[chuck colburn]

Shawn,

Did you happen to take a foot candel reading of that lake side shot?

[Justin Kirchhoff]

The gif I actually made in AE...sorry for ruining anyones day....hehe.

I appreciate the comments though!

[Casey Green]

Great shots Shawn. I'm very happy for you!

[Mark L. Pederson]

Rock on Shawn!!

You stuff is looking awesome!!

You OWN Oregon now!!

[Matt Setnes]

very good at ISO 1000

[Jared VanLeuven]

Talk about extending magic hour ... wonderful shot, man.

[Shawn Nelson]

It's less than 5 MB, no worries http://clicksmilies.com/s1106/grinser/grinning-smiley-003.gif !

EDIT -- Shawn, any filter used?

No glass filters, no post filters. Just a wide open lens and some quick work in RedAlert.

[Shawn Nelson]

Shawn,

Did you happen to take a foot candel reading of that lake side shot?

No I didn't! The light was disappearing too fast! I had to just expose by the LCD. It wasn't merely magic hour, it was the magic minute :-)

[Shawn Nelson]

Beautiful shot, Shawn. Compared to the tiff or H264 images, how dark did the scene look to your eye?

Thanks for the match shot too. It's great to see the possibilities.

The scene looked slightly brighter to the eye, and a bit more golden. But honestly, Red really did capture what I was seeing. I didn't even think I could film at that moment, I thought that even Red couldn't capture it. I was blown away when it did.

[Shawn Nelson]

Rock on Shawn!!

You stuff is looking awesome!!

You OWN Oregon now!!

Hehe, thanks! You can have the Northeast if I can have Oregon :-)

[Shawn Nelson]

Nice work, Shawn.


I pushed that tiff a bit.


Wow man, that looks freaking cool!!

[Tom Lowe]

Awesome. Malick would be proud.

Oh..... the possibilities.

[Floris Liesker]

there are many programs that have clipping restoration features. I use Cool Edit 2k, (now Adobe Audition) which can do this. These programs look at the good data to either side of the hard clip area and then extrapolate a smooth curve into the clipped region.

So: why not apply the same idea to photos also?

That's what the DRX feature does in Red Alert. Thanks to Graeme.
And it's making an even better educated guess than extrapolating a smooth curve, it will try to look at the channels that haven't clipped and compose something out of that...

[explosive]

Wow. That's beautiful. I nearly apoplexied when that bird flew across the water.

[Tom Lowe]

Yeah the details of the bird coasting just above the water really impressed me.

[jbeale]

That's what the DRX feature does in Red Alert. Thanks to Graeme. And it's making an even better educated guess than extrapolating a smooth curve, it will try to look at the channels that haven't clipped and compose something out of that...
Yes, that is a good idea- for DSLR raw frames, Adobe Camera Raw can do basically that also (maybe Red Alert is better about extrapolating color; ACR goes to grey in overexposed areas).

Anyway I was thinking about areas where all three channels are clipped. You could still do extrapolation from the color values, gradients, and texture info at the boundary of the clipped area. Obviously this would be a "patch fix" and not the ideal, but it might make some shots usable that would otherwise not be. The good news is, usually you want just a gradual smooth roll-off into highlights and that's what extrapolation is best at. Actually I bet I could write a program to do this. Hmm. Anyone know if this feature already exists in software somewhere? It seems too obvious, someone must have done it already. The spot healing brush ("band-aid") tool in Photoshop probably does something like it.

[Floris Liesker]

Knowing Graeme he is probably thinking about exactly that right now.

[Shawn Nelson]

Yeah the details of the bird coasting just above the water really impressed me.

The timing is really quite perfect :-) Silky smooth. It looks overcranked but isn't at all. I love the motion this camera produces!

[Andrew Benz]

Hi Shawn,

Though I hate to ask... is there a chance we can see this clip?
" Today I showed it to a gaffer and DP and it was just stunned silence. I showed them the crescent moon with the 300mm lens skirting the tops of the pine trees, a shot exposed for the bright blue sky that then panned into the shadows and held perfectly...their jaws were scooped off the ground. I love it!!"
If you have posted this then please point me in that direction. Anyway, if you can do it it would be great. I appreciate the time, energy and resources to make things like this happen.

Andrew

[Hrvoje Simic]

Wow man, that looks freaking cool!!

Thanks, Shawn. It was a pleasure.

[Dave Weber]

Shawn that was sweet. Love the stuff you're shooting in the north. Thanks for posting what you do. Can't wait until my camera's ready!

[Shawn Nelson]

Thanks David, this shot is still one of my favorites, sometimes the magic happens and you're there. The awesome thing is that with Red I can now capture it.