Premiere pro and R3D files

[George William Allen]

Ok, so this may sound like a stupid question but please forgive my ignorance.

When the RAW 4k RED footage is being edited in REDCINE everything is fine, I automatically update the RMD files so the RAW format is constantly being updated with my latest grading. Once I am done, I want to import that edited footage in to premier pro... Is there any way to do this?

The only way I have found so far is to export my current colour grading in to a uncompressed quicktime file, then combine the visuals of that quicktime with the audio of the R3D file. Ideally however I would like to have the whole composition edited on the R3D format so I can quickly change colour grading at any point throughout my edit.

is this impossible? Or am I missing something more obvious?

[Adam Johnson]

I'm wondering the same thing! I may be missing something, but I figured since you're editing the native r3d that everything would be connected. If you have to transcode before editing I see no advantages editing in Premier Pro...

[Antony M]

If you have Premiere Pro, then why are you using RedCine?
Why don't you use the R3D files directly in Premiere, and do your colour correction there?

You say "...the RAW format is constantly being updated with my latest grading."
However the RAW files (i.e. the R3D files) are NEVER updated. That is the whole point of "RAW".

In RedCine, you can apply a look to your footage (and several other things too), but then you need to EXPORT to another format to use it.
That export format can be several things: TIFF sequence, DPX sequence, QT, AVID.

Does this clarify?

[Ray Tragesser]

I think this was mentioned in another post ....but to recap

Since we are working on RAW .r3d files in both Premiere Pro and RedCine X, shouldnt we just transfer the Metadata of the grade back and forth? Adobe has the Red Importer built into CS-5 so instead of setting the grade inside the "source settings" of Premiere Pro, use RedCine X to do the grade and then transfer that Metadata to Premiere Pro. Seems like a logical work flow to me.

What am I missing?

Ray

[Lauri Kettunen]

What am I missing?

If I've got it right, you miss nothing, as that's what we are going to see in the near future; Color grade in Redcine-X and then PPro will read the metadata of your color grading when files are imported into PPro.

[ptulipano]

can you export a LUT from redcine x? if so you could edit the r3d in ppro then send to ae and then apply a LUT to the footage in ae. at least from looking at the new cs5 features i think it'd work. anyone try this?

[Uli Plank]

I tried and most LUTs are not read by AE, even those Color Finesse can export (didn't have the time to try all of them). Seems to be an issue with integer vs. float.

If anyone has found a format that is read, I'd be glad to hear about it.

[ptulipano]

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/aftereffects/cs/using/WS725e431141e7ba651e63e3d124b7aa5f27-8000.html

".3dl or .cube LUT file"

in case this helps. Although i haven't personally tested these yet.

[Emyr R. E. Pugh]

Can you import full metadata (i.e. RMD) into CS5? Including Flut, Shadow and other values?

[Jody Neckles]

Can you import full metadata (i.e. RMD) into CS5? Including Flut, Shadow and other values?

No you can't... but I believe a new update is immanent that will have flut control etc....