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Christian Berg
09-19-2007, 09:33 AM
I searched this but canīt find any comments on it.

Could the LCD have touchscreen in the future? This would be great for fast operation.

The SI 2k has a touch interface that seams to work nice.

Jiri Bakala
09-19-2007, 10:04 AM
Whenever LCD have the touch screen option it leads to fingerprints on the screen. Not a good idea IMO.

Simon Blackledge
09-19-2007, 10:34 AM
vt-op just wears gloves? :)

Jiri Bakala
09-19-2007, 12:05 PM
vt-op just wears gloves? :)

Yeah, and the have to be red...:wink:

Greg Voevodsky
09-19-2007, 02:30 PM
How about an iphone viewfinder? You can touch the screen, review your clips, surf the net, and order lunch when your director is deciding what to do next.

David Dennis
09-19-2007, 03:03 PM
Greg, I actually like that idea. I've noticed through conversations here that a lot of RED people have iPhones so that might actually have a ready market. This is not surprising since the overall spirit of innovation seen in the iPhone is quite similar to the RED camera. I'm sure that like RED, there were plenty of people in Apple who thought iPhone was impossible.

I'm surprised at how little the smudges on my iPhone affect the clarity of its display. I can see them when it's off, of course, but when the display is on at any good level of brightness they disappear.

I wonder if the bandwidth of a WiFi network is sufficient to display anything like a RED viewfinder, though. I think you'd need software to take video off the RED, transcode it into the iPhone video format and copy it over. That might take a really long time, unfortunately.

Cool idea, though.

D

Paul Wizikowski
09-19-2007, 10:36 PM
Thats certainly an interesting idea. It would make easy work of navigating a menu. And give you an extra run/stop button perhaps.

And why not...RED is doing the impossible every day.:shifty:

Ben Goldenberg
09-20-2007, 12:00 AM
Greg, I actually like that idea. I've noticed through conversations here that a lot of RED people have iPhones so that might actually have a ready market. This is not surprising since the overall spirit of innovation seen in the iPhone is quite similar to the RED camera. I'm sure that like RED, there were plenty of people in Apple who thought iPhone was impossible.

I'm surprised at how little the smudges on my iPhone affect the clarity of its display. I can see them when it's off, of course, but when the display is on at any good level of brightness they disappear.

I wonder if the bandwidth of a WiFi network is sufficient to display anything like a RED viewfinder, though. I think you'd need software to take video off the RED, transcode it into the iPhone video format and copy it over. That might take a really long time, unfortunately.

Cool idea, though.

D

While that is certainly an interesting idea, comparing the iphone with RED is like comparing Hitler with Ghandi. The Red is something which will revolutionize an industry because it is setting standards and lowering cost. The iphone is an embarrassment. The people who bought the first Iphones just a few months ago are now seeing their phone sold for $299. I hope they don't start selling the red for 3 grand a week after I buy it. Also the iphone has a crappy 2 meg camera, no gps, and a tiny hard drive. If the red used apples logic it would not shoot 4k, have a 20 minute battery life and a fixed fujinon lens. hehehe not bashing you...but I hate iphone....love red..

Greg Voevodsky
09-20-2007, 12:13 AM
Also the iphone has a crappy 2 meg camera, no gps, and a tiny hard drive.....love red..

But RED has a tiny flash drive only 8 gig - lasts 4 minutes, no gps, and can't make phone calls... ;-)

We could always just mount our iphones on the back of the RED with a RED arm?! Not sure about the viewfinder, it's resolution isn't quite up to REDs...

I'm just glad Sony put the vibration back into the ps3 controller. Now, if RED could vibrate when you start shooting like crap - out of focus, shaky, over-exposed... now that would be cool, plus an auto-delete of the No Good shot. ;-)

Poi Boy
09-20-2007, 01:08 AM
While that is certainly an interesting idea, comparing the iphone with RED is like comparing Hitler with Ghandi. The Red is something which will revolutionize an industry because it is setting standards and lowering cost. The iphone is an embarrassment. The people who bought the first Iphones just a few months ago are now seeing their phone sold for $299. I hope they don't start selling the red for 3 grand a week after I buy it. Also the iphone has a crappy 2 meg camera, no gps, and a tiny hard drive. If the red used apples logic it would not shoot 4k, have a 20 minute battery life and a fixed fujinon lens. hehehe not bashing you...but I hate iphone....love red..

ok comparing red and i phone may be a strech but... Hitler and Ghandi ?
i phone an embarasment ? how ? why would you hate I phone ?
dude get a grip.
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martinnoweck
09-20-2007, 01:40 AM
ok comparing red and i phone may be a strech but... Hitler and Ghandi ?
i phone an embarasment ? how ? why would you hate I phone ?
dude get a grip.
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where are the experts on such sophisticated topics when you need them ... ?

:) :)

Chris Nuzzaco
09-20-2007, 10:47 AM
I use a touchscreen everyday with my Andromeda DVX100 camera, I never have issues with fingerprints, the bigger issue I think is with outdoor viewing.... I've taken the old school photographer approach and use a black cloth to cover myself and the screen =)

kozmo
09-20-2007, 11:38 AM
Sony has a touch screen remote / monitor for the F950 F900 cameras, it's the RMB 750. So if Sony can do it certainly RED can if the want. It does get a little messy with the oil from your fingers but it would be a nice option possibly down the road. I like a bigger monitor anyway so I don't use it in that configuration to really say if it is acceptable.

Richard Burton

Chris Nuzzaco
09-20-2007, 11:45 AM
You know, I think the material used to make the screen surface has a lot to do with "finger print" performance, I just looked at mine, its a very subtle matte quality screen.

Thom Steinhoff
09-20-2007, 01:48 PM
I always thought a touch screen would be cool to trigger full resolution, focus assists, preview: Looking at the full screen, touch any place you want to drill to full resolution--the screen zooms in on that point. Want to move around touch and drag the photo around like the hand in photoshop looking at image zoomed to the full 4K. Want to return to full view, touch again. Maybe even two steps: 2K, 4K, fullscreen.

Some time ago I had also suggested a USB touch pad for this. A small, cheap, 16x9 shaped touch pad (often used for asian character entry) that would represent the screen, that you could actually do the same gestures but it would control a standard LCD or viewfinder. With some practice, if it was mounted on the side of the camera, I bet you could even do it without looking at it so as to keep your eye looking through the viewfinder.

To me, full resolution focus assist is the best use of touch screen/pad.

Christian Berg
09-20-2007, 02:45 PM
Thom, your first point about moving around would be great. I really can see the touchscreen usable in many ways.