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coopercam
10-01-2007, 08:24 AM
Hi all,
I hope I'm not re-hashing a thread that has been done to death, but I would be very interested in how Red has done so far in extreme temperatures and humidity, and any tricks ( like having frozen vegetables on hand ) that have seemed to help.
Thanks and best !
Bruce Allen
10-01-2007, 08:34 AM
Soderbergh just shot in Spanish jungle in super-intense heat and humidity. He still seems pretty ecstatically happy about the whole Red thing ;)
As with any camera, (especially digital) you'll want to take care of it. Ice packs, heat pads, etc. They used a lot of ice packs for the Spain shoot but bear in mind that that was on a pre-production camera.
Jim & the Red team, being professional perfectionists, re-engineered some stuff after that to improve its high temperature handling ability.
The whole happy history of this is is all on the forums here.
Ah great, jet-lag fading, humor returning.
Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
where in spain is a jungle????
Videoteque73
10-01-2007, 09:33 AM
where in spain is a jungle????
Nowhere, I'm spanish, born in Madrid, have been more or less everywhere in Spain. You can find a few forests, but no jungle man!!!
But when is hot, is very hot!!!!
Jannard
10-01-2007, 10:11 AM
I guess you can call them whatever you want but it looks like jungle to me. I guess the definition of "jungle" might be a bit loose? They shot in several locations all over Spain... and it was HOT!
It has been mentioned that our sensor temp warnings were set too low on those cameras and we have also made board changes since then. The heat capability is now comparable to any other high-end digital cinema camera spec. After 104 degrees F, start thinking about something... umbrella, external fans between takes, gel packs, etc. The hotter, the more help the camera will need.
Jim
Jens Jakob Thorsen
10-01-2007, 10:59 AM
You have to go below Sahara(its in a big place we call Africa) to find the closest jungle to Spain. Its only about 2000miles away.
Matthew Rogers
10-01-2007, 12:06 PM
After 104 degrees F, start thinking about something... umbrella, external fans between takes, gel packs, etc. The hotter, the more help the camera will need.
What exactly are you talking about when you say 104F? When air temp is 104 or when camera reads that it's 104 inside the camera?
Matthew
The word "jungle" originates in India, where it refers to pretty much any wild area, including quite dry and scrubby areas.
While Spain has no lush tropical forest of the Amazonian variety, many of its wilderness areas would be called jungle in India. [/geek]
Jannard
10-01-2007, 01:24 PM
What exactly are you talking about when you say 104F? When air temp is 104 or when camera reads that it's 104 inside the camera?
Matthew
Outside temperature of 104F
Jim
jbeale
10-01-2007, 01:34 PM
Be nice to your camera... remember that the camera uses power and generates heat internally, so if it's 104 F outside, it's going to be hotter than that inside the camera.
Omnius
10-01-2007, 04:23 PM
No hagamos mucho problema acerca del conecpto geográfico de los americanos.
Para algunos hay camellos en Antártica, pingüinos en el Sahara, manada de elefantes vagabundeando libremente en Alemania y junglas en España.
En realidad, hay algo de verdad en el hecho de que hay jungla en España, porque cada vez que la selección Argentina de footbol va a España a jugar, a su vuelta dicen que han jugado con monos!!!
Tarzán no es de Madrid?
:devil:
Pol Turrents
10-01-2007, 08:15 PM
some pictures of the shooting of guerrilla IN SPAIN. Ok, we don't have a real jungle, but we have similar places, and it's in southern spain, so it's VERY hot on august... So Jim is not wrong at all...
http://www.beniciodeltoro.ca/CheProjectElCorchado005.jpg
http://www.beniciodeltoro.ca/CheProjectElCorchado008.jpg
http://www.beniciodeltoro.ca/CheProjectElCorchado0010.jpg
http://www.beniciodeltoro.ca/CheProjectElCorchado006.jpg
And as I told in another thread... There are Jungles in spain.... You should see my room, and I live in barcelona xD
Deanan
10-01-2007, 10:17 PM
To contrast Guerilla's conditions, the Argentine is shooting in hot, very humid, rainy, and muddy conditions in very different jungle conditions (more rain forest like).
The_Paranoid_One
10-01-2007, 10:36 PM
where in spain is a jungle????
Nowhere, I'm spanish, born in Madrid, have been more or less everywhere in Spain. You can find a few forests, but no jungle man!!!
GEOGRAPHY LESSON OF THE DAY:
There are jungles in Spain! Its called Canary Islands.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=canary+islands&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=53.477264,86.044922&ie=UTF8&ll=28.385563,-16.447341&spn=0.001834,0.002626&t=k&z=19&om=1
Brook Willard
10-02-2007, 12:16 AM
We've been shooting in cold weather and extreme sun all week at the salt flats... sometimes it's 20 degrees, sometimes it's 70, but it's *always* sunny. It's no Spain, but it's something.
Fergus Meiklejohn
10-02-2007, 01:36 AM
Have you tested the camera recording constantly for one hour at normal room temperature? That's the common documentary, or live performance scenario.. It could be a problem if the fan suddenly cut in.