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Hrvoje Simic
10-02-2007, 07:50 AM
Sony starts selling first oled tv's in December.

-11 inch organic EL panel
-960x540
-1000000:1 contrast
-3mm thin panel
-10 years panel life with 10 h/day use
-pricey at 1750$

They went with 960x540 resolution so they could save with the circuit board design for full HD.
Guess the 22 inch 1080p isn't too far away.

Here's the link (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.watch.impress.co.jp%2 Fav%2Fdocs%2F20071001%2Fsony.htm&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8). Interesting translation.

jbeale
10-02-2007, 09:22 AM
million-to-1 contrast, huh? Pretty amazing, that is 20 stops, but can they actually use that? Are there any motion picture cameras that can really record that range?

Kevin Halverson
10-02-2007, 09:30 AM
A million to one contrast? I don't see how this is even possible, localized surface reflections alone would seem to preclude achieving that deep of black. Oh well, is a claim from Sony who seems to have no problem elevating marketing over engineering when it comes to specs.

Hrvoje Simic
10-02-2007, 01:07 PM
The exact numbers aren't important to me, as they are often questionable, especially in the consumer market.
What interests me is the nature of oled technology itself, for which I believe has great potential.
These pictures show that. I don't trust the numbers, but I trust my eyes.
Whether it will be Toshiba & Panasonic's joint venture, Samsung or Sony, I totally don't care.

damonbots
10-02-2007, 01:26 PM
Sadly, looks like I won't have a SED monitor anytime soon.

Graeme Nattress
10-02-2007, 01:36 PM
Yup, that contrast range sounds suspect, and to say it's un-measurable also sounds suspect.

Graeme

Peter McCully
10-02-2007, 01:37 PM
I think the contrast ratio claim is 100,000 to 1.

Keith Alan Morris
10-02-2007, 01:56 PM
been waiting for this for awhile. awesome news. that means in 2 years it will be affordable...

Gavin Greenwalt
10-02-2007, 03:18 PM
Well it depends on what where you measure the black. There was that HDR monitor floating around that supposedly is coming out some day which would technically have an infinite contrast ratio since individual parts of the backlight can be turned off.

OLEDs should be able to similarly go completely dark. In a pitch black room with an image alternating between black and white wouldn't an OLED also be an infinite contrast ratio?

Michael Hastings
10-02-2007, 08:51 PM
Sony starts selling first oled tv's in December.
They went with 960x540 resolution so they could save with the circuit board design for full HD.
Guess the 22 inch 1080p isn't too far away.


Combine 4 for 1080P how about 16 for ~4K

Curran Giddens
10-03-2007, 04:53 AM
Sadly, looks like I won't have a SED monitor anytime soon.

I've been waiting for SED myself. Too bad about all the setbacks due to legal issues.

Jeremy Hughes
10-03-2007, 07:42 AM
A million to one contrast? I don't see how this is even possible, localized surface reflections alone would seem to preclude achieving that deep of black. Oh well, is a claim from Sony who seems to have no problem elevating marketing over engineering when it comes to specs.

Who says it has to get that extreme of a black? Maybe it creates just that bright a white.

I yearn for a TV with dual LCD and OLED. It would definatley make it possible to get an even higher contrast ratio.

Sony a prototype 1080p OLED in the winter. http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/08/sonys-1-000-000-1-contrast-ratio-27-inch-oled-hdtv/ I want to see a prototype now.

And there's always PHOLED to look forward to...

Tim Fassnacht
10-03-2007, 09:52 AM
Sony launches OLED TV sales
Posted on 01.10.2007 at 12:42 in Tech News by Martin
Sony Corp. said Monday it will begin selling the world’s first ultra-thin flat-screen television based on organic light-emitting diode technology in December, as the race to develop next-generation televisions heats up. The technology, known as OLED, uses organic chemicals that can emit light. That means the new TV set doesn’t require a backlight like conventional liquid-crystal display televisions. Televisions using this technology can be thinner and show crisper images with less energy. LCD technology will still dominate the television industry for awhile, with LCD TV shipments more than doubling to about 110 million sets in 2009 from 46 million in 2006, according to market research firm DisplaySearch.
http://www.pixelydixel.com/img07/sonyoled.jpg
Sony said an 11-inch model with a 3-millimeter screen will go on sale first in Japan on Dec. 1 for ¥200,000 (about $1,700). It didn’t provide details on when it would be available overseas but similar launches are expected in the near future. Sony will market the initial model as a personal television for bedrooms, home offices and corporate offices though it aims to eventually develop larger-screen OLED televisions. Leading next-generation television development is doubly important for Sony, which is nearing the end of a three-year turnaround plan under Chief Executive Howard Stringer. That’s because it was late to market in introducing LCD televisions.