RedRelay.net [Archive]

ChrisLyon

10-05-2007, 03:47 AM

You can find just about all the high quality Red footage uploaded at this new mirror website:

http://www.redrelay.net/images/redrelay.jpg (http://www.redrelay.net)

www.redrelay.net

Frequently Asked Questions
Updated 2/27/2008

How Many Files Are On RedRelay?
As of February 27, 2008 the file statistics stand as:
Video Files: 131
R3D Files: 10
DPX Files: 9
TIFF Files: 14
Total Files: 164

...All from dozens of filmmakers, DPs, producers, companies, and shot with a wide assortment of lenses, frame rates, shutter speeds, lighting conditions and rendered out to different file formats and resolutions.

How Do I Get A Red Owners Login?
To get a login set up in order to upload, PM or email me with your red serial number and preferred password. We are currently accepting login requests from people who have their Reds and people who are going to receive their Reds the next delivery date.

Can I Get A RedRelay Login if I Don't Have My Red Yet?
We are only giving accounts to those who meet these requirements:

1) You have actually received or are about to receive their Red.
2) Are working on a production that has given you permission to make your files public.
3) You have been consistently working with a red camera and have permission to upload the footage from said camera.

As we see it, there is no reason for you to have your own RedRelay account when you don't have any Red footage to upload. Red Owner Logins are only for those who have Red cameras and have shot footage to share. Even without an account, you can access the site publicly to view footage shot by others by simply going to www.redrelay.net.

How Can I Download/Watch a Clip?
First, you need QuickTime. Windows users may not be able to play all clips as a Windows version of the Red codec is not available at this time. So, get a Mac (http://www.apple.com)!

1) Select the clip you want to download. Click "Download" icon to the clip name.
2) Click the icon to watch (beware of clips over 720p not fitting in your browser window).

If you wish to donate a reasonably current Mac to RedRelay in support of it's free services, feel free to do so or contact us (mailto:info@redrelay.net) about giving a donation!

How Can I Open a DPX file?
You need Adobe Photoshop or a free application such as RenderNan's DPXViewer (http://www.redrelay.net/uploads/RNDPX9.1.zip).

How Can I Open an R3D file?
You need to download RedCine from the Red website. You can get it here: http://www.red.com/support. Best to have a Mac for this too. A good Mac. Or a really good PC.

Can I Hotlink to A Video Clip from RedRelay?
Yes! Of course, hosting credit is always encouraged.

http://www.redrelay.net/images/redrelay.jpg (http://www.redrelay.net)

Feel free to use this code to get the link image:

http://www.redrelay.net/images/redrelay.jpg (http://www.redrelay.net)

What About Bandwidth/Space?
We have 15,000GB of transfer a month. What that comes down to is that RedRelay can host ANYTHING- EVER. If you can dream it, you can do it. :)

Browser Compatibility
All major browsers have been tested and approved on Windows, Mac and some forms of Linux- except Netscape- which we haven't tested at all. You shouldn't be using that though. Get Firefox (http://www.mozilla.org) or Safari (http://www.apple.com/safari/download/).

Häakon

10-05-2007, 03:57 AM

Cheers, Chris;

I don't know the limitations of your server, but it's great that you've organized everything for everyone in one convenient place (and even bought a name for it!). I suspect you will get a lot of visitors in a relatively short period of time. Very cool.

Häakon

Alex Boothby

10-05-2007, 04:25 AM

If you can dream it, you can do it. :)[/I]

Chazz: Let's capture the dream.
Jimmy: Capture the-wow I love it. Where'd you come up with that?
Chazz: I have no idea where I came up with that.
Jimmy: Cool.
Chazz: Let's kick some ice.

esmilis

10-05-2007, 07:47 AM

mac's safari also has issues with the site - folder list shifts a little when you fold it out.

but still, it's usable

esmilis

10-05-2007, 07:48 AM

if you need help working out the kinks on mac, i'd be glad to help

Larry McKee

10-05-2007, 08:47 AM

Thanks Chris. You are a generous man.

Noah Kadner

10-05-2007, 08:56 AM

Awesome, great idea- something Red should totally get behind. In the meantime- suggest image thumbnails and footage descriptions.

-Noah

jbeale

10-05-2007, 09:37 AM

Thanks for setting this up. I started making a mirror with small live movie clip previews, but I think this doesn't work on many browsers (?)

http://www.bealecorner.org/red/

If a movie clip has an associated discussion thread here on Reduser, I think it's helpful to link to that also.

ChrisLyon

10-05-2007, 10:41 AM

Thumbnails and descriptions are a good idea. You can already have descriptions though the box is small. You can see it over under File Information. In fact, the descriptions are even searchable. Say you the clip is 1080p or 720p and I've put that in the description then you can search by all or part of that term. :)

At this point, I'm really going for ease of use and pure simplicity. Until I can figure our how to incorporate thumbs without taking up a lot of screen space (and not having to make the thumbs myself for every clip) then that's probably lower down on the list than browser functionality.

ChrisLyon

10-05-2007, 11:17 AM

Thanks all for your positive comments! :)

I think the most frustrating thing about using metadata rather than actually creating a databased set of information is that thumbnails will be hard. I'm actually a very limited web kind of guy. If anyone has any suggestions on how to move forward, let me know. I'll kindly accept any help I can on all fronts of functionality.

Matt Setnes

10-05-2007, 01:10 PM

generosity can only last for so long...

:whistling:

Michael Schrengohst

10-05-2007, 01:12 PM

generosity can only last for so long...

:whistling:

Generosity should last a lifetime.

chuck colburn

10-05-2007, 01:15 PM

generosity can only last for so long...

:whistling:

bluestar,

what does that mean? Or are you actually the filmmakers gang under a different name?

Matt Setnes

10-05-2007, 01:21 PM

haha. I'm just sayin... and no you can actually make sense of my statements.

Brian Harbauer

10-05-2007, 01:25 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but what I think he meant was "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth." :shiftyph34r:

chuck colburn

10-05-2007, 01:26 PM

Oakey dokey I got it.

nawaf65095

10-05-2007, 02:05 PM

After uploading in http://www.redrelay.net/ How Can i download the samples?

Shaun Au

10-05-2007, 02:40 PM

I can get in the site, I can add clips to the download cart. When I click download, it asks me to save a .zip file. I get an error message when I try to unzip it.

It says:
Unable to unarchive "package.zip" int "Desktop". (Error 1- Operation not permitted.)

What's going on? :sad:

ChrisLyon

10-05-2007, 02:51 PM

nawaf65095:

A) Select the clip you want to download. Click "Add to cart" next to the clip name and then on the left hand menu, select download and you will see the items you have cued for download. Hit "download."

B) Double click the file you want to download.

roubaix: I haven't had anyone else have that problem on any OS. Make sure the file is done downloading, I suppose. It's a streamed download so just watch your download manager.

planet e

10-05-2007, 10:29 PM

thank you, chris, this is fantastic. i had no idea how much footage i was overlooking, and i check this site daily. great service and your site is working very well on my end. much appreciated!

ChrisLyon

10-05-2007, 11:06 PM

I'm not sure what is wrong with Safari but IE7 and Firefox are now pretty well completed.

Rainer Fritz

10-06-2007, 12:20 AM

i have the same problems with the zip files. but why do you zip a compressed video file. that makes no sense man. the checksum in the zip file is not correct.

regards

ChrisLyon

10-06-2007, 07:01 AM

zipping a compressed video file is a way of preventing hotlinking. this allows me to keep downloads to a minimum while still serving those who really want the file. Again, I'm not sure why the zipping isn't working for some of you, but as I stated at the top of the page, if you double click on a video file, you can download normally. Try that.

Also, in the future, if you guys have a problem, let me know what kind of system you are on- browser, etc. The site isn't broken per se because it's working for the hundreds who have already downloaded. It's probably a configuration specific issue. I can't troubleshoot without knowing the circumstances of the failure.

I Bloom

10-06-2007, 03:54 PM

Hey Chris,

Nice site!

Do you know where Dukemovie Stereo Life clip is from?

IBloom

ChrisLyon

10-06-2007, 03:54 PM

The AFI Thesis thread

I Bloom

10-06-2007, 04:03 PM

The AFI Thesis thread

Ahh sweet, good for them, they got their camera. It looks great!

edit: Oh I see, that's their test...

I Bloom

10-06-2007, 04:25 PM

Chris, Is there a way to URL a specific file on RedRelay.net, as in emailing somebody to check out a specific clip.

Ian

ChrisLyon

10-06-2007, 04:34 PM

Yes and no.

There is a reason for the no. The reason is because we want to keep downloads as low as possible while still serving the people who really want the clip. The easier it is for people to download, the more likely we are to have partial downloads which is bad for bandwidth. It's bad because either someone decides they don't want it and never sees it- which is a waste- or that they do end up seeing it which means they downloaded it 1.x number of times rather than just once.

So, now for the yes. If you select a clip, you will notice the File Information box on the bottom left fills out. There is a "Where" part and it is a URL based link. The person must be logged in otherwise it will simply take them to the login screen.

Example:
http://www.redrelay.net/relay.html?path=/default/macgregor/clips3.mov

Now, this is more than likely only a temporary thing. I have the required login set up (even though the login information is filled out) because it deters bots and again keeps likely partial downloads to a minimum. I want to watch how much bandwidth is being used so I can make an educated decision about traffic and required bandwidth as the database of video files grows. If I deem that I have enough bandwidth to support the massive load of these great HD files then I'll make the access public and only require Red owners to login to upload their footage.

Jim Perry, Jr.

10-06-2007, 11:00 PM

ChrisLyon,
Was redrelay's backend custom developed
or did you integrate a 3rd party application
into your site for file sharing\downloading?

thx for the site, definitely a nice way
for everyone to share visuals

ChrisLyon

10-06-2007, 11:02 PM

It's a lot of prewritten Java, AJAX and some basic database elements. 99% of it isn't custom made (or custom paid)- just custom fitted.

Jim Perry, Jr.

10-06-2007, 11:20 PM

cool,
i sent you a pm.
not sure if it would be appropriate post this here.

Jim Perry, Jr.

10-06-2007, 11:36 PM

thanks for everything :)

orre

10-07-2007, 05:25 AM

Do you need to have a serialnumber to watch clips as well?
I ordered my camera a couple a months ago so I don´t have a serial and won´t get it for a long time.
You´re site sounds awsome. I´m on firefox by the way.

ChrisLyon

10-07-2007, 07:34 AM

no, you can log in and download the clips no batter who you are.

ChrisLyon

10-07-2007, 07:51 PM

HELP ME!

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?p=95454

ChrisLyon

10-09-2007, 01:44 PM

RedRelay 2.0

http://www.redrelay.net/v2/

The current interface will become a place for red owners only. They will only be able to view their own work while in the Red Owner's Login. Right now, profiles and clip descriptions will be input by an admin because I'm too lazy to build a database for something that isn't that big yet. However, profile pictures can be changed on the fly because they will reference a file called profilepic.png stored in that person's upload folder.

As you can see the site will become owner-based. Footage will be stored by Owner and (hopefully) searchable by things like ISO, aspect ratio, size, and description content.

However, I'm having a bit of trouble with the searching and listing right now. I have the concept of how it should work, but finding the script to run it is another beast altogether. I will probably end up using something like wordpress has and make the site a blog in it's bare essentials. RSS feeds and all that might make it easier for people to keep up to date.

Mind you this new version is a while out. It may be a few weeks before I get a satisfactory version ready.

Larry McKee

10-09-2007, 01:48 PM

Dang, Chris. That looks really cool. You sure are putting a lot of work into the site.

ChrisLyon

10-09-2007, 01:53 PM

Thanks. It's the only way to be the best.

ChrisLyon

10-09-2007, 02:15 PM

Well right now, like I said in my first post is that we have 3500GB transfer per month which at an average file size means about 80,000 downloads a month total (average size 40mb).

Right now the site remains free because right now with 4 days of traffic, we are holding steady at only 5% used. This means that we are WAY under our max usage of an average 3%/day. Not to mention that we have a few (2 currently) sister sites hosted out that also have 3500GB transfer a month. So if things get nasty, we can switch to a ready-made mirror.

I don't believe anyone should have to pay to share media. We already do that for the "pro" material via iTunes and the like. I will pay for the website via ads. The website costs me a few dollars a month to host and already I've garnered 25% of that cost back this month via ads on the index page.

I mean yeah, it would be awesome to actually make money off the site, but it's not necessary right now. The content isn't in demand enough to make people pay to see or post it.

Oh yeah, and version 2 will allow hotlinking... sort of. We made that decision today. You will see what I mean by "sort of" later.

And concerning for RedRelay being another place to share footage... it should be THE place to share footage. I really hate it when websites try to compete for the same purpose when there are obvious winners in each category. I think that we will become a place to host and view footage and RedUser will continue to be the community. I have no ambitions of making RedRelay a community. That belongs here where it is already established. RedRelay would simply be facilitating a need for people to host footage. It's a symbiotic relationship. People here post footage to RedRelay. People use their websites to point to RedRelay for people to view their footage and then RedRelay links back to the RedUser conglomerate instead of having multiple places for people to comment. We originally had a plan for making comments available on RedRelay but we quickly decided against it seeing as how it's not our focus.

Footage belongs at RedRelay- the community belongs here.

ChrisLyon

10-09-2007, 05:43 PM

Awesome. We will have to do that.

Thanks! I'll post the link to the video on the festival website when it's all said and done.

ChrisLyon

12-01-2007, 11:01 AM

Back online.

ChrisLyon

12-02-2007, 02:40 PM

We now have 31 of the 36 public clips up. That's up from the 13 or so we had on Friday.

More footage! Come on!

BASSAM MSSALATIE

12-02-2007, 03:00 PM

We now have 31 of the 36 public clips up. That's up from the 13 or so we had on Friday.

More footage! Come on!

THANKS for update but the last clip from WEBSTAR link is not running:ranting2:

ChrisLyon

12-02-2007, 03:06 PM

Working now. Thanks for catching it.

BASSAM MSSALATIE

12-02-2007, 03:11 PM

Working now. Thanks for catching it.

May i ask ?
could anybody has Red camera join you in RedRelay ?:innocent:

ChrisLyon

12-02-2007, 03:16 PM

We are currently reworking our policy. There really is no reason for people who don't have a Red in their possession to have access to upload their files. But I suppose the answer to your question is yes. When we first opened redrelay in October, we allowed anyone to have a login. That was all well and good, but we never had one single person upload their own files so giving people logins and allowing them to upload didn't really do anything for us. Right now we expect to have to do everything ourselves.

The eventual hope is that we can provide daily transfer service for Red productions so if you are in NY and a producer is in LA, then we can provide a host service so that people in LA can access the files without the need for an overnight shipping of a disc or hard drive. That would cost per production and allow x amount of storage space with password protected directories, etc.

BASSAM MSSALATIE

12-02-2007, 03:23 PM

We are currently reworking our policy. There really is no reason for people who don't have a red in their possession to have access to upload their files, but I suppose so, yes.

When we first opened redrelay in October, we allowed anyone to have a login which was fine. We never had one single person upload their own files so giving people logins and allowing them to upload didn't really do anything for us. Right now we expect to have to do everything ourselves.

The eventual hope is that we can provide daily transfer service for Red productions so if you are in NY and a producer is in LA, then we can provide a host service so that people in LA can access the files without the need for an overnight shipping of a disc or hard drive. That would cost per production and allow such and such a storage space with password protected directories, etc.

Thanks Chris :
what i liked in redrelay is the grouping of Artists you have in there, i am not in LA ,I LIKE the idea of Advertising for every one there..and newer things that you just explain about Hosting . i did not think of it befor ?:watsup: ?
When i have my Red ready i will contact you trying join you again Good Luck:greedy: :greedy:

ChrisLyon

12-02-2007, 03:36 PM

I'm lost. Do you like what we are doing or what?

Radoslav Karapetkov

12-02-2007, 03:36 PM

So much beauty...

BASSAM MSSALATIE

12-02-2007, 04:10 PM

I'm lost. Do you like what we are doing or what?

Sorry maybe i could not be clear enough for you ..:usd:
Yes it is amazing job you are donig .. its very good to gather in there i hope my self JOIN YOU ,,BUT UNTIL my red arrive will you accept ?:sarcasm:

ChrisLyon

12-02-2007, 04:21 PM

Let me know when you get your Red. There is no reason to join RedRelay until then because you can access all the footage from the public site right now. "Joining" is only for people who have footage to upload so they can put their footage online to share.

BASSAM MSSALATIE

12-02-2007, 04:39 PM

The eventual hope is that we can provide daily transfer service for Red productions so if you are in NY and a producer is in LA, then we can provide a host service so that people in LA can access the files without the need for an overnight shipping of a disc or hard drive. That would cost per production and allow x amount of storage space with password protected directories, etc.

I LIKE THIS IDEA ..
But is it protected from public ?? :blink: as you said

There is no reason to join RedRelay until then because you can access all the footage from the public site right now.

ChrisLyon

12-02-2007, 04:41 PM

If we have clients from productions, yes, the footage would only be available to the client. Otherwise all footage uploaded is public like right now.

BASSAM MSSALATIE

12-02-2007, 04:47 PM

:sorcerer: okay that is great and secure i will join soon if you accept me:spidy: thanks

ChrisLyon

12-04-2007, 10:06 AM

I know we hit a footage lull a while back but this is ridiculous!

Shawn! Where are the beautiful back-yard-screwing-around shots we all know and love?

Evin! ¿Donde esta el cantan los latinos?

OffHollywood! Where are your stunt cars and boxing foreigners?

MacGregor! Grab Evin and make some cool shit we can stare at for hours and wonder about... damnit!

Jeff Mustaman

12-05-2007, 12:41 PM

Thanks!! much easier to check redrelay.net instead off scrolling to all those pages everyday to see if there's some new footage.

Would be nice to see if you put the "tribute to redusers" video that Richard put together on the homepage, where MacGregor's footage now plays.:D

ChrisLyon

12-05-2007, 12:42 PM

which video is that?

Jeff Mustaman

12-05-2007, 12:48 PM

Here is the link to the post:

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5379&highlight=contribute+to+red

ChrisLyon

12-05-2007, 01:55 PM

Good idea. Done.

http://www.redrelay.net

iPhone compatible too. At some point I want to make all the videos iphone compatible. One mirror started to do this to newer clips but I'm going to go back and do it to all the old clips.

ChrisLyon

12-07-2007, 02:23 AM

New clips including sanctioned mirrors for the footage from the RedLab website where DP MacGregor calls home.

I'm currently converting clips to become iPhone compatible. We currently have 19 compatible clips and more are coming all the time.

We can also safely say that we are currently the largest public host for Red footage and stills on the internet. We have 50 clips (45 active) and 5 DPX files (3 active).

L.A.R.T. will greatly add to that collection. I'm not sure how many RED clips L.A.R.T. will present, but I'm sure it will be more than a handful from the words flying around the forums.

ChrisLyon

12-12-2007, 09:17 PM

We now have 54 clips online with 3 pending including some DPX and R3D files. We are trying to work out who created the clips we have. There are several clips and DPX files that are found on other host sites that we are trying to match up with REDuser members.

Our iPhone compatible collection is growing as well.

Hopefully LART will release soon. We are hoping for rights to host that footage as well.

Did I mention I love REDuser?

Häakon

12-12-2007, 11:38 PM

Hi Chris,

The iPhone option is great, but when I try to access one of the clips on my iPhone, it just loads the file as text. I have been to several websites were embedded videos *can* load on the iPhone - so I know it's possible - but something is not working properly on the page. Perhaps it's a MIME association problem or something.

The clips do work fine on my desktop at home.

EDIT: I see that you have mentioned that the clips are meant for "downloading and syncing," but that seems like a bit of an unnecessary step; would it not be preferable for iPhone users to be able to visit the site and load up the clips remotely from wherever they are?

ChrisLyon

12-12-2007, 11:41 PM

The problem is that the iPhone is not fit to show files of any quality over a cellular internet connection. I got the iPhone to read a file from the site but the compression was so great that it was useless. It looked worse than YouTube.

If you have any suggestions, let me know.

ChrisLyon

12-15-2007, 02:19 PM

70 files, 3 pending and counting.

We will be adding the login and self-uploading/managing feature after the holidays! Imagine an early Facebook-like interaction.

Eugenia Loli-Queru

12-28-2007, 01:37 AM

Please, please, please, do not re-encode in .mov for Redrelay. Please prefer the platform neutral .mp4 container instead, because .mp4 is able to playback on the PS3 and XBoX360 and we can watch these clips on our HDTVs easily. With .mov we can't do that, we have to re-encode if want to enjoy it on an HDTV. If you are using Macs, both Final Cut and AE can export h.264 in .mp4 instead of the default .mov. Thanks for listening.

ChrisLyon

12-28-2007, 08:29 AM

I don't re-encode except for iphone. It would make no sense for me to do that. What would I gain from re-encoding? Except flac from the original owner. All I do is download from the original source, turn around and upload to my server. It's the same file byte for byte except the iPhone down-conversion (which is necessary).

If the files come to me in MOV, in MOV they stay. Same goes for DPX, R3D and M4V files.

If you want to encode a file for PS3 or XBOX viewing, you must do that yourself. There is too much red tape (no pun intended) for me to go through with quality control of re-encodes with the original creator of the file.

Maybe you can request a filetype from the original poster of the footage.

Also, I'm not getting paid to do RedRelay, so the more time I tie up my computer with conversions, the more time I'm spending when I could be making money elsewhere. I'd rather keep RR free and simple rather than charge and have more options.

Unless everyone is interested in paying?

Eugenia Loli-Queru

12-28-2007, 02:39 PM

Sorry, I saw all these .mov files there and I thought there was a re-encoding going on. Too bad that the makers don't export in .mp4 which is more standard with devices like the PS3/XBox. Quality is the same you see, as mp4 still holds h.264/AAC in it.

Shawn Nelson

12-28-2007, 08:09 PM

Sticky please!

Häakon

12-28-2007, 11:01 PM

Sticky please!
Given the fact that RR has become the central hub for storing and sharing RED footage, I think that is a valid request. Done!

ChrisLyon

01-02-2008, 04:55 PM

Wow, thanks Shawn and Hakkon!

Now let me upgrade you!

We now have 1,500 GB of storage and 15,000 GB of bandwidth/month. (Compared to the previous 300 GB of storage and 400 GB/month transfer)

We are flippin a new page, introducing you to some new things so....

BRING IT ON! MORE CLIPS MORE STILLS! 720p, 1080p, 2K, 4K! More, faster, more intense! Plus RR v3.0 coming soon!

And for those of you who are sick of the DirectTV Upgrade commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dcrU6kXVLA), give me a shout out. RR has the most channels in HD, not DTV.

ChrisLyon

01-06-2008, 11:01 PM

New look....

...and v3 is on the way. Users will be able to upload their own footage and manage their profile/files including file names and info after logging into the Red Owners section of the RR site.

Edit: We are also now supporting TIFFs. As of right now, we are only taking care of TIFFs added by people who already have footage on RedRelay and there are no plans to go back and add old TIFF files. Once version 3 is live, people will be able to add their old files if they wish. From this point forward, we will only concern ourselves with staying up to date rather than go back since we have most footage posted here on REDuser.

ChrisLyon

01-16-2008, 10:32 PM

Steve Jobs put it well a few days ago:

There's something in the air.

Catch the RedRelay banner online now at REDuser!

ChrisLyon

01-27-2008, 02:02 PM

Mark L. Pederson

01-27-2008, 02:43 PM

Chris -

I will have another Offhollywood Red footage assault coming your way very, very soon -

Axel Mertes

01-27-2008, 02:49 PM

From the Cold Storage thread:

There is no specific target audience for RedRelay. We just know based on feedback that most (if not almost every single one) of our users are people who have no problem installing (or already have installed) QuickTime. We can see platforms and 78% are mac users. That, being the majority use QuickTime and it's apparent that most of the other visitors have viewed the videos implying their understanding of QT.

If more people come to the site than we have turnarounds, then we know that something is wrong and we should shift our focus.

Like I said, we aren't against different or even multiple formats if the need is really there. For example, of the videos downloaded of Axel's, more than 90% were QuickTime downloads even with the initial options of WMV and divX.

It may have been premature to ask Axel to take the files off.

Hi Chris,

I first would like to thank you in every way you for your work regarding RED Relay, highly appreciated.

I don't want to repeat any discussion about if or if not poeple downloaded DVIX or WMV versions, those I just had on hand during upload, and therefor uploaded for everybodies convenience. I agree having ONE format that fits all is helpful, as it reduces disk space, links, encoding requirements to a minimum. For this reason I've removed them without any problems directly after your request. All I said, maybe a little harsh, is that I don't like Quicktimes gamma shift issues.

I would suggest to evaluate the idea of using Flash H.264 implementation rather than the Quicktime own one, as the Flash player is more widespread and usually does not show the gamma shifts we all encounter with Quicktime under certain conditions (even on Macs!).

I like Quicktime in general, really, but the fact that it produces sometimes almost unpredictable (nor explainable) gamma shifts actually disqualified FCP & Quicktime for professional production in certain parts of our pipelines. Not to speak of platform dependant codecs nor missing OS versions (but the same applies for WMV, DIVX, and so many others).

Like other we wish that Apple get to fix this, the sooner the better. You can't believe how many times we knocked our heads on tables and walls because of this. FCP has no issue when coming from tape and sending back to tape, but don't try to off-load for e.g. DPX pipelines or the like. Its simply not made for it.

Please have a look on the Flash version and check it out yourself. Its the same codec, so the same quality, but with less headaches as far as I can tell.

Cheers,
Axel

ChrisLyon

01-27-2008, 02:54 PM

We will look into this, Axel, and determine what we can do to increase the usability of our site. As Red does, we want to take hints from our clients to make our service better!

@OH: Hit me, brotha...

Marco80

01-31-2008, 03:02 AM

Hi guys, I'm new here

I came across a RedRelay site and I wanted to ask you a question. Are all that video for viewing only or there are some CreativeCommon license so I can use them for my compositing demoreel? I need some material and RedRelay would be a great resource for me, but only if there aren't any copyright issues (that's why I'm asking). :)

Thanks in advance

ChrisLyon

01-31-2008, 05:50 AM

Marco80

01-31-2008, 06:03 AM

Hey Macro, welcome to REDuser and RedRelay. Currently there is no rule on RedRelay that allows users to use footage for uses other than private use. The best thing to do would be to contact the individual owner of the shot you wish to use. There is contact information for each shooter on RedRelay to drop them a line and I'm sure they will get back with you concerning your use of their footage.

Thanks again and welcome!

Hi Chris

Yeah, I've though about begging individual members as the last option in case there wasn't any "CC license". :biggrin:
You know, as a junior compositor I don't have access to high quality footage to work with, but this RED footage gallery are pretty damn awesome (I guess it's not just about camera, but also about capable people who know what they do).

Thanks for your welcome and information, I'll contact footage owners individually. :watsup:

ChrisLyon

02-10-2008, 12:35 AM

New Red Compilation Video:
http://www.redrelay.net/

Or larger size:
http://www.redrelay.net/redcrawl.mov

Rick Darge

02-10-2008, 12:59 AM

Chris,

Did you edit that?

That was really fucking awesome man

I hope a tradition begins and every 3-5 months, somebody cuts and releases a comp reel like this. It really brings the community aspect of this revolution full circle

ChrisLyon

02-10-2008, 01:21 AM

Thanks- yes I did.

I really like what you did before, Richard. I've had this song in my head since I saw yours and I had to take advantage of the recent influx of clips as well as a few you didn't use last time. I didn't master this in 720p- just 480p then down to 405p to take the edge off some of the upresing since I only envisioned the file ever living on the homepage in that smaller viewing area.

Now that I've done mine, maybe another will step up next time. I keep thinking of songs like "Seein' Red" by Unwritten Law, "Ladies and Gentlemen" by Saliva, or "Woman (Mstrkrft Remix)" by Wolfbmother for the next one. Maybe I'll do another cut soon and make it more upbeat. Or... perhaps you have the time?

I'm so ready to shoot on the Red. I want to shoot a music video more than anything. I love the MHD channel late at night when it's just constant music videos. Mmm... tasty.

I Bloom

02-10-2008, 05:52 PM

I'm so ready to shoot on the Red. I want to shoot a music video more than anything. I love the MHD channel late at night when it's just constant music videos. Mmm... tasty.

It sounds like you've earned a few favors in that department.

IBloom

ChrisLyon

02-10-2008, 07:20 PM

Maybe so. I'll call on favors at some point. ;)

Hrvoje Simic

02-11-2008, 08:29 AM

Nice mix, man.

ChrisLyon

02-16-2008, 03:30 PM

Top stats for the first half of February. Moving pictures only- no DPX, TFF files included in this count.

Rank Downloads Name Clip
01) 2895 Downloads Alex Montoya Chico Majo
02) 1598 Downloads Poi Boy Prod. Slow Surf
03) 1443 Downloads Tonaci Tran Bike Prores 2k
04) 1247 Downloads Ian Bloom Brooklyn Grit (Regraded)
05) 944 Downloads Richard Darge Demo Reel 1080p
06) 837 Downloads Richard Darge Treedrum
07) 702 Downloads Jim Arthurs Martial Arts Medium
08) 460 Downloads Jim Arthurs Martial Arts Wide
09) 517 Downloads Richard Darge Demo Reel 720p
10) 354 Downloads Jim Arthurs Martial Arts Handheld

Congrats to all of you for having footage people seem to not be able to get enough of. The oldest stuff in this group is the Martial Arts clips so those seem to have really stood out. I have a pretty good idea who is going to be the number 1 for the month- even through it hasn't released yet.

It's also worth noting that the biggest attraction according to this count is R3D files followed closely by 1080p QT files. This may help you make your decision on what resolutions and versions you may want to include in your uploading.

Thanks again to everyone for being patient and helpful with this project.