FREE MUSIC to make the COPYRIGHT NAZIS here happy

[Keith Alan Morris]

At the inopportune forced deletion of the new fake Nike spot (bastards!), I submit the motherlode for your creative pleasure...

All you lucky folk can now pick music you like from the AWESOME musicalfamilytree.com, then contact my boy Jeb directly at musicalfamilytree.com (http://musicalfamilytree.com) and request to use the music posted there for your projects. (musicalfam(at)gmail.com) Say you're a friend of me (Keith), and he may hook you up.

Music is free but if you're planning on making money off it, then you MUST talk with him for clearances.

He's cool but busy, so be prepared. A warning quote from him when I was interested in obscure Indiana punk bands from 1982:

"...keep in mind this stuff isn't necessarily going to be free and easy to use like some other stuff on the site. Depending on the band we may or may be able to get the songs for free/cheap. Let me know which ones you are interested in and I can help track down the right people.

We are working with another company, ripplefx.com, to create a new website hipsterjingles.com (nothing there now), that will facilitate getting indie/Indy bands' music into films and commercials."
Thanks, Jeb

[Matt Garrett]

also moby has a bunch of music to use as long as you're not making money off it:
http://www.mobygratis.com/film-music.html

[Andrew Benz]

Thanks Keith and Matt... and hey everyone... do not forget your local record labels and music scene. Alot of people are amendable to usage for exposure... and happily spread the love when money is made.

Andrew

[Keith Alan Morris]

that is SO TRUE andrew. we as filmmakers need to do our duty to spread indie music and stick it to the corporate mofo's.

i'm trying to decide on punk music for an action scene. if you like punk music, let me hear from you by checking out: http://filmscout.org/gutterking

so far, the song ALL WHITE is winning by a landslide. the second half of it is pretty rad. you have to be a punk fan to enjoy, though, i think...

[Andrew Benz]

Keith, I love punk... hell my avatar has a gas mask on it. :-)

I am very lucky to have a honey hole of great original music to use on whatever content that I want to create... showreels, various spec. deals, high end corp, docco, sports, and wildlife. Each level goes from free to well paid... This helps in building relationships. I am also very lucky to be surrounded by great musicians of all types who need great exposure. There is a dearth of good filmmakers in my area and I will also be the only RED owner in my state for a while... So the pickins' are good for me and nobody here will be able to give me shit because I not only have the proper clearances but also creative relationships with the musicians and labels behind them. From the home of the Delta Blues to Rock and Funk to Punk... plus I am getting back into alot of turntablism stuff again---though soon with final scratch. The possibilities are endless with audio and music. These are things that drive images... "your" creative.

Keith, I will check out the site and get back to you. Thanks man. :-)

Cheers-- Andrew

PS. Keith the site, project and music looks really cool, I wish you all the luck in the world... If you need anything please let me know. I am going to go back and read more now...
Lyrics by Toxic Reasons- Mercenary "Well I 'm a mercenary... and I want to kill... and if the price is right... it makes it better still..." Aaahhhh, the anger of youth and corporate hitmen ala BlackWater. LOL, great stuff Keith!

[Sean]

A fascinating article about copyright and Apple's marketing:

http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/05/apples-little-problem-with-ripping-off-artists/

[Jonathan L. Bowen]

I have seen quite a few big budget TV shows end up giving small indie artists a chance, actually even sometimes unsigned artists that have made it bigger than many signed artists, and I think that's really smart. I totally understand if you have a $125 million budget, you have an audience that probably expects certain things, and one of them is to have a big-budget soundtrack with today's hottest, biggest bands on it, etc. But even on a fairly good but more restricted budget, I don't believe for a second that the musical quality suffers by finding indie groups nobody has heard of and having their music. Sure, of course, it's harder to search for those groups and find really great music, so it requires more time (and less money, but time is money, blah blah etc., it's a balance), but I definitely think that is a good way to go.

I personally hate popular music, and that's not to say I hate all music that becomes popular, but just that what is currently popular and has been for the last 4-5 years is hip hop (before that, hip hop was present obviously but not as dominant). I think hip hop is absolute crap. I thought country music was bad until I started hearing Fergie, Gwen Stefani, and all of these "gangstas" putting out their "music," now I have come to appreciate what bad music really is. It's a sad state of affairs. Now, for me, I end up finding most of the best music that I like on the indie circuit or at least bands you might not have heard of, like The Receiving End of Sirens (2nd CD just came out), for instance. I'm mainly a techno guy, however, and since that's a niche genre the music is always underground and hard to find, but it's out there and if you have XM 82 you can figure out what the names of tracks you like are and usually find 'em somewhere like Beatport (legally), not usually iTunes.

I don't want to throw in this shameless plug for no reason, but what further changed my mind lately about the music industry versus other industries is a group called Autumn Tragedy we did a music video for. In the film industry, there probably isn't a totally awesome undiscovered feature film just lying around. Usually the money can be seen up on screen and there's a reason that expensive movies at least hit Blockbuster if not theater screens. But in music, it doesn't matter how big or small you are, talent is out there that hasn't been signed or discovered yet. To me, Autumn Tragedy is a prime example of that. This is the video we shot for them, and I do think it's their best song, but I love all of their songs from their debut CD that's going to press now (they are in search of a label but have significant sponsorships including Budweiser): http://www.shutzi.com/videos/walk-alone.html

[Jochen Schmidt-Hambrock]

Whats a copyright nazi?
Whats the difference between a musician and a composer?
Do you edit your pictures to music, or do you edit the music to your picture?

In short, are you doing a video clip or a movie?

Jochen

[P Andersson]

this place was handy for my last project, not free, but almost

http://musicbakery.com/royalty-free-music-downloads.htm

[Keith Alan Morris]

Whats a copyright nazi?
Whats the difference between a musician and a composer?
Do you edit your pictures to music, or do you edit the music to your picture?

In short, are you doing a video clip or a movie?

Jochen

copyright nazi = joke from an earlier thread where people were getting on the guys who did the fake nike spec spot w/copyrighted music. i say, if its a spec spot, then its just free advertising for all involved...

musician = could be a scorer or a person in a band on the soundtrack

composer = the person that writes the music, usually the score in a feature film

I'm doing a movie and it will have a composer who handles the score, but i will also have songs in it that i choose from musicalfamilytree.com.

http://filmscout.org/gutterking

I will be editing certain scenes in my next film to the songs. Then let the composer do his thing to the other scenes.

David Lynch listens to the musical score while shooting via headphones and shoots to it. Quite an organic process. I'd like to try that. I tried it once, but became "prop-heavy" and stopped that real fast. :)