Franky comes out to play [Archive]

Jeff Kilgroe

02-05-2007, 01:59 PM

Are you sure that's a camera? Looks more like a modded header you swiped from someone's supercharged hot rod.

You're teasing us.... So how does Franky fit into the plans for camera design? Is this the more "tank like", heavier design that Jim mentioned a little while ago?

Gunleik Groven

02-05-2007, 02:00 PM

What can I say....

I'd allmost go for Franky over Spike!

-;)

No, but really... She's a beauty!

Did anyone mention the slight 50 - early 60' ish comic strip form factor to all theese things?

Really like it, though!
Star Trek, go home!

Gunleik

Marcus Lundahl

02-05-2007, 02:02 PM

Thanks for making the daily checking of this site for any news worthwhile!
She looks great by the way!!

Jannard

02-05-2007, 02:02 PM

Frankie will sit front and center in the museum...

If we posted a pic of her sooner, we would have had to defend her. And I'm a protective dad.

Jim

Emanuel A.

02-05-2007, 02:06 PM

Agreed.

Steve Gibby

02-05-2007, 02:10 PM

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder...I think she's a total babe!! (a very capable babe too...)

Gunleik Groven

02-05-2007, 02:11 PM

I could defend her anytime! -;)
It'd actually be pretty cool to come to set with a kit looking like this!
I wouldn't mind the lense either...

Gunleik

Sanjin Jukic

02-05-2007, 02:16 PM

A real musem piece. Should goes to Louvre next year. Frenkie RED and Mona Lisa La Gioconda together...

Bill Goehring

02-05-2007, 02:18 PM

1980s: Frankie Goes to Hollywood

2000s: Hollywood Comes to Frankie

Blair S. Paulsen

02-05-2007, 02:18 PM

I am going to have to wipe off my computer display now ;)

Corrado Silveri

02-05-2007, 02:21 PM

Why museum?
I love her!
I'm madly in love with her...

Jaime Vallés

02-05-2007, 02:23 PM

Dude, you really shouldn't attach a Cooke lens to a muffler... ;)

Just kidding... Looks great! I'd love to see a comparison pic of Frankie next to Spike.

Eirik Tyrihjel

02-05-2007, 02:23 PM

Now I have to readjust what I think about design again...

Charles Perkins

02-05-2007, 02:25 PM

pure sex. that thing looks awesome!!

whats inside her? is it just the sensor?

Jeff Kilgroe

02-05-2007, 02:29 PM

Dude, you really shouldn't attach a Cooke lens to a muffler... ;)

That's kinda what I was thinking with my engine header comment. I didn't know you could mount a Cooke prime to an air intake like that... ;)

Sure is sexy though...

P Andersson

02-05-2007, 02:45 PM

I wanna borrow it for... spelunking.

HD Hildebrand

02-05-2007, 03:04 PM

Looks like she came off the set of "Brazil".

Damien Molineaux

02-05-2007, 03:04 PM

Wow, why did I think Franky was in a wooden case ?

She looks good.

Thanks for sharing.

Cheers,
Damien

Kyle Mallory

02-05-2007, 03:09 PM

That is soo bad-ass awesome... I'm turning into a blabbering idiot...

Steve Gibby

02-05-2007, 03:18 PM

Ummmm... except for the lens, Franky looks a lot like a piece of a Gary Scelzi NHRA Funny Car engine that I shot for a SPEED Channel show...radiating a high performance vibe...

Wanna run for pink slips anyone?

Corrado Silveri

02-05-2007, 03:22 PM

http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/83_1170717647.jpg

High Res:

http://idisk.mac.com/elcuradin-Public/Red_Desktop_2007_9.jpg

Cheers,
Corrado.

Roxco

02-05-2007, 03:24 PM

http://www.grandcanyontuberadio.com/Microphones/Shure%20microphone%20%20Model%2055SH%20004.jpg

Steve Gibby

02-05-2007, 03:24 PM

Elcurado...you seriously rock...

Sanjin Jukic

02-05-2007, 03:33 PM

With Frenkie the Red you get 4K digital cine camera with the quality of 35mm film instead of cutted meat something like from the Siemsen Electric Meat Grinder (see below)

http://www.texastastes.com/psa10.jpg

Siemsen Electric Meat Grinder 3/4 hp w/ #12 head (Item # 699732)
Made by Siemsen in Brazil w/ stainless steel pan and has standard Hobart fittings. Grinds 6 - 8 lbs per minute. Includes extra plate and meat pusher.

http://www.texastastes.com/p549.htm

http://red.com/webstore/images/get/56/thumb/

CVB

02-05-2007, 03:34 PM

I love the fact that even Jim's test beds (http://mi.oakley.com/media/brochures/technology/impact_protection/spikehead_profile_1.jpg) and protos look like pieces of art. My protos kinda look blah. BTW Jim, how much does that thing weigh? I betting about 30 pounds?

Jared VanLeuven

02-05-2007, 03:47 PM

So that's what they filmed Metropolis with! :D

You guys redefine craftmanship.

Poi Boy

02-05-2007, 04:00 PM

Way cool ! that has to make it on to a t-shirt.
Aloha

-A

Jarred Land

02-05-2007, 04:02 PM

heh heh heh... believe it or not, there is alot of function in Franky's design..

Jarred Land

02-05-2007, 04:03 PM

That is soo bad-ass awesome... I'm turning into a blabbering idiot...

heh heh.. just wait till you get in the same room with her.

Blaine Golden

02-05-2007, 04:15 PM

I really don't care what she looks like as long as she provides the necessary data to build Spike...:)

Of course, she looks a lot better than I had imagined. :cool:

Don Woods

02-05-2007, 04:19 PM

I am sorry Jim but she is feakin SEXY... That is awesome. oh sorry i was drolling.

CVB

02-05-2007, 04:26 PM

Kinda looks like a frog smoking a $20K stogie :)

Corrado Silveri

02-05-2007, 04:38 PM

Elcurado...you seriously rock...

Thankz.. She's so sexy.. I can't resist.

Petr Dvorak

02-05-2007, 04:52 PM

huh oh, am I on Mopar forum? :D
www.lateral-g.net/sema/mopar.jpg

definitely not that wood box with first Apple :)

Roxco

02-05-2007, 05:03 PM

huh oh, am I on Mopar forum? :D
www.lateral-g.net/sema/mopar.jpg

If you think of the Air-Fuel intake as CCD-FPS intake then yes you can learn from the Mopar Heads:

See: http://www.archive.org/details/Ingenuit1958

For more Ingenuity in Action!

Rosco

P.S. And don't forget to use Humble Oil !

JVB

02-05-2007, 05:10 PM

Frankie looks great even though I'm at work looking at it on my blackberry. can't wait to get home and take a real good look at it.

Zack Birlew

02-05-2007, 05:12 PM

That's cool that you designed an enclosure even for the basic prototype. So, what happens to Frankie now that the Spike design is up and running? Will it sit in a fancy glass case in the RED offices?

reduser1242

02-05-2007, 05:29 PM

Is it just me, or does Franky remind you of 1 Icon, Oakley's HQ. And Jarred, what's the deal with the Rome stomp pad, are you guys takin Franky snowboarding?

Corrado Silveri

02-05-2007, 05:50 PM

Is it just me, or does Franky remind you of 1 Icon, Oakley's HQ. And Jarred, what's the deal with the Rome stomp pad, are you guys takin Franky snowboarding?

Make your own conclusion...

http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/83_1170726640.jpg

Corrado Silveri

02-05-2007, 06:05 PM

Make you own conclusion (again)...

http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/83_1170727548.jpg

Jaime Vallés

02-05-2007, 06:13 PM

Hmm... :eek:

Jeremy Hughes

02-05-2007, 06:24 PM

Jaime, it looks like the Slave 1 when it's laying down.

CVB

02-05-2007, 06:34 PM

well as long as we are in photoshop mode....

SalaTar

02-05-2007, 07:01 PM

just a 350 block that has running issues

Brook Willard

02-05-2007, 07:39 PM

Dear RED Team,

Please make something ugly.

Sincerely,

Brook

Jarred Land

02-05-2007, 07:40 PM

And Jarred, what's the deal with the Rome stomp pad, are you guys takin Franky snowboarding?

heh heh.. You will know the answer to this question Friday.

Brook Willard

02-05-2007, 07:50 PM

That sounds like new footage to me...

Shawn Nelson

02-05-2007, 07:51 PM

heh heh.. You will know the answer to this question Friday.

Awe Jarred! Dude, you've been hanging around Jim too much, now you just give self-conscious one line teasers... :-)

Don Woods

02-05-2007, 08:26 PM

Nice Jarred sounds like a long firday night..

David Fairbanks

02-05-2007, 08:30 PM

That's the best looking test bed that I've ever seen. I can't wait to see images off of it.

What's the hot glue gun for?

Jason Francois

02-05-2007, 08:30 PM

She's a beauty, because of what I hope is inside. I'd rather have a smart girl over a pretty girl any day.

Brook Willard

02-05-2007, 08:58 PM

That's the best looking test bed that I've ever seen. I can't wait to see images off of it.

As far as we know, every image we've seen thus far has come from this camera.

Jeff Kilgroe

02-05-2007, 09:09 PM

What's the hot glue gun for?

Holding that Cooke glass in place. :D

Andrew Benz

02-05-2007, 09:22 PM

Absolutely beautiful, truly a piece of art without a doubt!

Some questions...

Doesn't the design seem a bit front heavy?

How will the existing cage design work with this new form factor?

How much weight did the new form add on?

Is the re-design due to trouble fitting all of el mysterium's parts into little old spike?

Last question, when can I come over to the Redquarters and jump like a giddy school girl? :D

Hey yo it's Frankie. the infamous cart cam, not new design. :)

Brook Willard

02-05-2007, 09:26 PM

Jarred Land

02-05-2007, 09:30 PM

That's the best looking test bed that I've ever seen. I can't wait to see images off of it.

Everything you have seen shot so far, has been off of Franky. She's had some polishing here and there, but the Watch, the Cigar Girls, the Porsche, even the Milk Girls has been shot with her.

Jarred Land

02-05-2007, 09:33 PM

As Andrew said, this is NOT the RED ONE. This is a "test bed" camera. Consumers generally never see test cameras - the folks over at RED are just being nice and letting us in on the secrets.

The RED renderings you see on http://red.com are still what you'll get when the camera ships [pending any changes, of course].

Correct.. there is a difference between Spike and Franky.. Spike is the current prototype that looks like and acts like RED ONE.

Franky was the previous (and still kicking ass) test bed that was more focused on testing the Mysterium Sensor.

Brook Willard

02-05-2007, 09:35 PM

The lens mount looks fairly secure... weren't there some difficulties originally in that regard? Keeping the distance between the lens and sensor appropriately calibrated?

Daniel Reichenbach

02-05-2007, 09:37 PM

The miraculous awakening of reduser.net thanks to one picture of Frankie - there is hope again. Well done RED. :D
And elcurado: I love your feeling for grafic art.

Eric MacIver

02-05-2007, 09:42 PM

Let's see... Can I add one of those to my huge order? I mean, I'll own everything else :)

Mardi_Gras

02-05-2007, 10:04 PM

Jim,

If nothing else, the explosion of posters on this thread will lead you to believe jonsing Redheads don't really need too much to keep them at bay. Just show us a whiff of the money... don't need to see the stack of bills, and we're okay. Thanks for the tease.

Alexander Nikishin

02-05-2007, 10:17 PM

Let's see... Can I add one of those to my huge order? I mean, I'll own everything else :)

BTW, I'll be giving you a call as soon as my shoot is finished in a week from now to complete that lens deal we were discussing!

Greg Voevodsky

02-05-2007, 10:55 PM

Thanks Jarred and Jim. Nothing like a little bit of inspiration, to fall asleep now. It's nice to know in 100,000 years that Frankie will still be here.

Hrvoje Simic

02-06-2007, 12:29 AM

Normal people would just use a simple box-typed shape.

That's one of the reasons I like you guys.

So there are two things to enjoy here

Frankie

and watching people go nuts again.... ;)

Corrado Silveri

02-06-2007, 01:59 AM

well as long as we are in photoshop mode....

Great... A LOT of horsepower...

Roxco

02-06-2007, 08:50 AM

She's a beauty, because of what I hope is inside. I'd rather have a smart girl over a pretty girl any day.

Bud: - Why?

Lou: - Because a pretty girl may run away from me some day?

Bud: - So - A smart girl may run away from you too!

Lou: - True - but who cares!

Abbott & Costello - 1944,

Rosco

P.S. I prefer Lucille Ball to Lou Costello - 'cause she's a REDHEAD!

PaulClements

02-06-2007, 09:07 AM

Just curious, you obviously went to quite a bit of trouble producing the test bed, as people point out it isn't exactly a wooden box. In that case why did you decide to opt for this design over the designs you already had for the early Red's way back when. Obviously there is reasoning behind the early production model and it'd be interesting to find out what they were. I'm guessing issues with stability might've been one of them? Perhaps measuring heat from the sensor etc another? Jarred mentions there is alot of function in Franky's design so purely from an inquisitive point of view what kind of things were you looking for when you built her the way you did?

CVB

02-06-2007, 09:14 AM

IAN SUN

02-06-2007, 09:35 AM

Paul, Usually when you make prototypes you don't have final designs complete such as processor boards, drivers, power supplies etc. I would guess that this is the case with Frankie. The prototype stuff is almost always a few times larger than the final.

If what we see is a self contained unit, even minus power supply, Frankie is no monster, she's a lot smaller than I expected.

Roxco

02-06-2007, 09:40 AM

And when something does fry it is easier to spot on a larger circuit board.

In the old days one often had to get in there with a tiny plastic screwdriver to adjust an analog power/signal pot, but todays cameras use many more digitally controlled pots, but you still need to probe and see if the DCP is working correctly.

Rosco

Brook Willard

02-06-2007, 09:49 AM

I expect that the body functions as one giant heat sink... those folds aren't just to look badass.

PaulClements

02-06-2007, 04:02 PM

Paul, Usually when you make prototypes you don't have final designs complete such as processor boards, drivers, power supplies etc. I would guess that this is the case with Frankie. The prototype stuff is almost always a few times larger than the final.

What I was kind of getting at was more the fact that Red obviously put together something quite specific and not just slapped together as quickly as possible. At the time they built Franky they had some early concepts of the final body so there must be specific reasons for the design they used... why it was strapped to a table etc. I'm just interested to hear from those that decided on the specific design as to what were their early limitations when testing the mysterium sensor with Franky or did they just make it a shiny curvy box for the likes of Mr Stump to enjoy when previewing the camera :)

David Fairbanks

02-06-2007, 07:01 PM

Everything you have seen shot so far, has been off of Franky. She's had some polishing here and there, but the Watch, the Cigar Girls, the Porsche, even the Milk Girls has been shot with her.

Wow, I thought everything to date had been shot with basically a mish mosh of circuit boards on a workbench, not Franky.:D

Jarred Land

02-06-2007, 10:13 PM

Wow, I thought everything to date had been shot with basically a mish mosh of circuit boards on a workbench, not Franky.:D

Franky is a mish mosh of circuit boards... the shiny cosmetic body on the outside has changed a few times over the last year or so, but the inside boards have always been the same.

Obin Olson

02-08-2007, 08:29 AM

I want more pics like that, workbenches are the cooolest! I LOVE the process!

Jim, make a video blog for RED. I want you and your workbench on my ipod every day!

Obin Olson

02-08-2007, 08:31 AM

I hear you have so many cpus running in that bad boy it's a super computer? now that is HOT. Hey if the boards/cpus give out can they be swapped easy?

Gregory Karydis

02-08-2007, 06:07 PM

Frankie's so hot it REDefines sexiness
BTW, who's got dibs on her? (other than when she's in the museum)

Brook Willard

02-08-2007, 07:28 PM

I'm guessing Jim.

Ace

02-08-2007, 10:32 PM

Another addition to the Red culinary series:

http://www.kyoproject.com/meatgrinder.jpg

Evin Grant

02-08-2007, 10:36 PM

Roflmao!

Ace

02-08-2007, 10:43 PM

Heheh...

And heres the first red culinary delight posted a while ago. Wonder whats next on the menu ?

http://www.kyoproject.com/ad2.jpg

Jarred Land

02-08-2007, 11:59 PM

love it ace..

CVB

02-09-2007, 12:02 AM

Ace.. you rule. Thats too funny.

P Andersson

02-09-2007, 12:19 AM

nothing like RED meat

Jeff Kilgroe

02-09-2007, 12:27 AM

Too bad a perfectly good lens and follow focus were ground up along with that Sony junk. Oh well...

...That is a Sony, right? Looks like an F900, but I can't tell with Franky spinning it around so fast. Hehe.

Ace

02-09-2007, 12:57 AM

...That is a Sony, right? Looks like an F900, but I can't tell with Franky spinning it around so fast. Hehe.

That is indeed an F900, but I didnt really want to make it too obvious incase of it being too libelous!

Corrado Silveri

02-09-2007, 03:16 AM

Heheh...

And heres the first red culinary delight posted a while ago. Wonder whats next on the menu ?

http://www.kyoproject.com/ad2.jpg

Really great, Ace. I love it soooo much.