REDCINE-X Build 346...

[Jannard]

Build 346:
http://red.cachefly.net/redcinex/eval/REDCINE-X_build_346_mac32.zip
http://red.cachefly.net/redcinex/eval/REDCINE-X_build_346_mac64.zip
http://red.cachefly.net/redcinex/eval/REDCINE-X_build_346_win32.zip
http://red.cachefly.net/redcinex/eval/REDCINE-X_build_346_win64.zip

Changes from 344 -> 346
Updated Manual.
Redline Colorspace Fix for Camera RGB.
Additional sanity checking of user crop settings.
Fixed ordering issues with dragging items from browser and bin.
Fixed ordering issue when exporting selected.
Presets now save to disk immediately after add and edit operations.
Fixed 1700 WB issue with multiple clips.
Fixed installing redline to paths with spaces when admin access is required.
Export pause race condition fix.
Fixed crash when a 3dClip fails to load one side from project.
Monitor out export pause issues
Monitor out toggling issues.
Avid sdk issues on case sensitive drives (showed up again with the new avid sdk)
Show advanced controls colorspace flicker
Windows xp startup issues
Set Finder Icon
Info.plist now uses the current build # allowing open RCX projects from finder to use the correct version of RCX
Close button added to metadata window
Rocket setup dialog now shows additional information about Red Rockets.
Bug fixed where bin table would show up without columns
Allow dragging of clips in the bin/browser table views even if the filename column is not visible.
Changed video window input so it won't steal mouse wheel events from other controls.
Properly clean the cache when an export finishes.
Disabled clearing of the cache when exports resume on 64bit builds.
Empty bins on startup (will not effect saved bins from older builds)

Jim

[brian hanson]

it keeps getting better!

[Chris Ratledge]

Build 346:

Additional sanity checking of user crop settings.
Fixed ordering issues with dragging items from browser and bin.
Fixed ordering issue when exporting selected.
Presets now save to disk immediately after add and edit operations.
Fixed installing redline to paths with spaces when admin access is required.
Info.plist now uses the current build # allowing open RCX projects from finder to use the correct version of RCX
Rocket setup dialog now shows additional information about Red Rockets.

Jim

Thanks for these especially.

I'm assuming that "Additional sanity checking of user crop settings" means that when I create a crop preset it actually saves and keeps the parameters other than just the name?

How about adding lasso/click-n-drag selection of clips in bin or browser while in list view?

[Jochen Schmidt-Hambrock]

No, its a typo. It should say " Additional sanity checking of user. And the crop settings."

Jochen

[Deanan]

Thanks for these especially.

I'm assuming that "Additional sanity checking of user crop settings" means that when I create a crop preset it actually saves and keeps the parameters other than just the name?

How about adding lasso/click-n-drag selection of clips in bin or browser while in list view?

Crop presets have been saving and working ok and we haven't seen what you're reporting. The Sanity checking is for odd situations where you can create crops that were not valid.

Drag and drop has also been in there for a long time.

[dino g]

thank you

[Quentin Brown]

Wow.

I didn't even have time to post my positive feedback from working with Build 340 for the last week up in the Scottish Highlands. You guys are steaming it!

[Gunleik Groven]

Cool, THX!

[Stephen Lovett]

"Presets now save to disk immediately after add and edit operations."

Thanks this is a huge help.

[danu prasd]

Me God !!! Just checking the Build 340..now there's new one....fabulous....

[jimhare]

Loving the new builds! Great strides and exciting stuff.

Still having trouble viewing and exporting side by side 3D clips. Crashes when I attempt to export as ProRes and I can't get it to display through the Red Rocket via HDMI.

Mac 64 and 32-bit versions.

[David Birdy]

Thanks for getting this new build out Jim & Red team!

Dave

[Dave Cox]

This is awesome! I was so sick of crashing whenever I accidentally hit play while things were rendering. That is probably my favourite feature of this build - having to reset all my still store for the scene and occasionally losing grades when the program crashed or locked up sucked, a lot.

Are there any plans to expand the keyboard preferences window? I would love to be able to set keys for lift/gamma/gain up and down, or to modify the curve or FLUT or whatever else I use regularly.

[Marque]

Any rocket driver issues?

[Mo Baker]

Cool, the timeline works as it should.
Unfortunately the export issue with win 7 (64bit) is`nt solved...

[Chris Ratledge]

Crop presets have been saving and working ok and we haven't seen what you're reporting. The Sanity checking is for odd situations where you can create crops that were not valid.

Drag and drop has also been in there for a long time.

Installed 340 on my machine and the Ast. Editor's on this job. Neither one of us can get the crop presets to actually save through a shutdown/quit or crash, we have to rebuild them every time we restart the application.

Here's what happens: I set the parameters, in this case a locked-aspect 2.39 center crop of 4096x2304 source footage, click "+" and name it, and then click outside the window to save per the Manual's instructions. Then I save the project file. I can apply it as usual as long as I don't quit/crash that session. When I relaunch the application after such an event, the title of the preset remains in the list, but the crop settings are now gone, when selected it's listed as "no crop," so I delete it and rebuild a new one.

Didn't have this problem with 262. Hopefully 346 once installed will work for me, at least in this regard.

Maybe I'm not being clear on the "lasso" function. It works fine when the browser or bins are in thumbnail display mode, but I can't click/drag to highlight multiple clips when viewing those in list mode. Neither can the Ast. Editor I'm working with on his machine running 340. This would be helpful to quickly see if there are any 2/3k clips in the bin that should be processes separately with different settings, and de-select them from a given batch or add them to a separate bin.

[Milan Nikolic]

Thanks, keep them coming!

[Chris Barron]

Very cool, thank you!

[Matthew Yaeger]

Unfortunately the export issue with win 7 (64bit) is`nt solved...

Please send an email to redcinex at red dot com so we can troubleshoot why it is not working for you.

[Matthew Yaeger]

Still having trouble viewing and exporting side by side 3D clips. Crashes when I attempt to export as ProRes and I can't get it to display through the Red Rocket via HDMI.

You should be able to view clips through HDMI however stereo viewing through the HDMI is not supported.

Please send an RCX log file from one of the crashes to redcinex at red dot com.

[Anthony Jacques]

Why does Red-cine use so little of my Mac's available resources?
Am I doing something wrong?
I have an 8 core MacPro with 16Gb of RAM. Only 23% of CPU is used when outputting R3D files to ProRes HQ's.
Please don't bother telling me I need to buy a Red Rocket, I'm aware of what it does and it's price.
Any help much appreciated, thanks.

[Uli Plank]

Start several REDline processes.

[Johnny Friday]

downloaded 346.....BUT, this is a rather different upgrade....how do we get RCX into the APPS FOLDER? I've got all kinds of subfolders after opening up the download for Mac 64bit??

[Johnny Friday]

WHOOPS---dowloaded WINDOWS version....:emote_head_explode:

[paulherrin]

for REDCINE-X...
what are the minimum graphics requirements?

and/or recommended cards?

[Matthew Yaeger]

Still having trouble viewing and exporting side by side 3D clips.
Issue found and fixed for next build.

[Gunleik Groven]

It's fun how this community is being trained into being good and happy beta-testers.

I really like it!

[Matthew Yaeger]

Why does Red-cine use so little of my Mac's available resources?
Am I doing something wrong?
I have an 8 core MacPro with 16Gb of RAM. Only 23% of CPU is used when outputting R3D files to ProRes HQ's.
Please don't bother telling me I need to buy a Red Rocket, I'm aware of what it does and it's price.
Any help much appreciated, thanks.

In your export preset within the Options tab you can choose to use REDline (software only) and then increase the number of simultaneous REDLines until you find an optimal value for your system.

[Grant Yoshida]

Maybe I'm not being clear on the "lasso" function. It works fine when the browser or bins are in thumbnail display mode, but I can't click/drag to highlight multiple clips when viewing those in list mode. Neither can the Ast. Editor I'm working with on his machine running 340.
Try using shift-click to select a contiguous group of clips. You can then combine that with command/ctrl-click to select clips just about as fast as using a lasso.

[craigjkharris]

When I drag from the browser to a bin, the order of the clips is still wrong and random. Can this be fixed so the clips are ordered numerically?

[craigjkharris]

Also, in previous versions (321 for example) you were able to use the arrow keys to make changes to different values in the Look settings.

Now - when I use arrow keys it changes the clip in the viewer. Very annoying.
Is there another keyboard alternative for making small, accurate changes to the color values?

[Grant Yoshida]

When I drag from the browser to a bin, the order of the clips is still wrong and random. Can this be fixed so the clips are ordered numerically?
Try using the list view in the browser. Clips in the thumbnail view (in bin and browser) are initially unsorted. Use the list view to get a sorted view of the clips, then from there drag them to the bin.

Another way is to switch from thumbnail view to list view, then back to thumbnail view. The sort order from the list view will then be transferred to the thumbnail view.

[Anthony Jacques]

Thanks to those who replied to my resource question.
Again, much appreciated.

[craigjkharris]

Try using the list view in the browser. Clips in the thumbnail view (in bin and browser) are initially unsorted. Use the list view to get a sorted view of the clips, then from there drag them to the bin.

Another way is to switch from thumbnail view to list view, then back to thumbnail view. The sort order from the list view will then be transferred to the thumbnail view.

Grant,
Are there any plans of changing this? To be completely honest, it doesn't make any sense for the clips to be unsorted. It also doesn't make sense that the clips be unsorted in the export list.

Should be an easy and needed fix.

Thanks,
Craig

[Milan Spasic]

Loving the RCX with every new update more and more.... thanks guys!

Couple of persistent issues this morning though:

- Random clips mysteriously disappear from the bins, after the restart of the saved project. Once re-imported the color information is lost.

- Clips import fine but it tells me that, again random clips, have no content. The content sometimes returns after relaunch, but sometimes it doesn't.

- App often crashes (80% of the time) when switching from external monitor back to regular view.

8 core Mac with RR.

[davidtorres]

It's fun how this community is being trained into being good and happy beta-testers.

I really like it!

Hola about 32bit or 64 bit ?

If I download 64bit my Mac Pro recognize automatically or I need change something?

Mac Pro 2.93 GHz 12gb Ram 6 Core

... Thanks DTC

[David Kudell]

Grant,
Are there any plans of changing this? To be completely honest, it doesn't make any sense for the clips to be unsorted. It also doesn't make sense that the clips be unsorted in the export list.

Should be an easy and needed fix.

Thanks,
Craig

I find this to be pretty annoying as well. I wish it was sorted in thumbnail view according to clip name by default.

[davidtorres]

Also when I try to make some transcode whit red rushes, looks like going good but at the end just the blue line it advances but PROGESS and Current keeps in %0 and 0.

I download again the software and keeps the same.

[davidtorres]

9372

[paulherrin]

i'm not seeing the updated manual in the download (w64)... anyone know where to find it?

EDIT: it's only in the mac package...

[craigjkharris]

9372

You might want to post these in a Red Rushes thread.
If you are using REDCINE-X, there is no reason to use Red Rushes.

[jimhare]

Also when I try to make some transcode whit red rushes, looks like going good but at the end just the blue line it advances but PROGESS and Current keeps in %0 and 0.

I download again the software and keeps the same.

Hi David, pretty sure Red Rushes doesn't work with the later Red Builds.

Everyone should migrate to RedCine X, it's tremendous and can batch files the same way Red Rushes did but better.

[Jason Diamond]

will be using this build tomorrow for some 2k 2:1 120fps footage we shot today. will report back.

[Joe Walker]

For my own sanity, is there anyway we can streamline and/or move the REDCine X updates into their own thread? I'm greatful for all the updates but trying to locate the latest ones is getting difficult, especially having to sift through all the other RECON stuff.

[Eric Trageser]

Thank you, love it.

[Gunleik Groven]

Hola about 32bit or 64 bit ?

If I download 64bit my Mac Pro recognize automatically or I need change something?

Mac Pro 2.93 GHz 12gb Ram 6 Core

... Thanks DTC

If it starts, your mac has recognized it and is capable of using it.

Last time I tried the 64 bit (340), renders with redline/rocket were very slow, while the 32 bit rendered as fast as one would expect.

Dunno what the case would be with direct renders.

I use RCX in combination with Clipfinder, only to get RedlogFilm and have a 10-bit sdi preview when I occationally need it - currently, Clipfinder handles all the offline and online tasks beautifully and integrates with RCX with the push of a button + it conforms with RCX renders.

I also find it a much better tool for working with large groups of files and the firstlight interface is fast and tidy to work with. AFAIK it is the only non-RED sourced tool that has intergrated the all neccesarry curve into its RED-metadata-editor and handles other formats without crashing.

This is NOT a stab at RC-X!
I am just making the point that for larger form online/offline workflows Clipfinder extends the functionality of RCX in an extremily helpfull and - dare I say - professional, manner. -:)

Good to know for those of us who need it.

G

[Florian Obrecht]

we have trouble here trying to render side by side quicktimes. it will always render one eye only and once we restart the software the 3d options in our export presets are disabled again, no matter what was saved earlier. Any ideas or experiences with that?

[HyderBilgrami]

This is great !! Though still no news about using XML !

[Gunleik Groven]

You can use Clipfinder to send xml sourced subclips to RC-X in sequence order...

[Luca Immesi]

You can use Clipfinder to send xml sourced subclips to RC-X in sequence order...
RCX and Clipfinder rock together!!

[Gunleik Groven]

RCX and Clipfinder rock together!!

I know...

[Michael LAGERWEY]

Why the 346 is slower as the 340 ???

[Matthew Yaeger]

we have trouble here trying to render side by side quicktimes. it will always render one eye only and once we restart the software the 3d options in our export presets are disabled again, no matter what was saved earlier. Any ideas or experiences with that?

We've fixed the issue for the next build.

[Matthew Yaeger]

Why the 346 is slower as the 340 ???

Not quite sure what you are saying.. but 346 doesn't appear to be slower.

Though it is possible if you were using invalid crop settings on a clip that 346 will now be clipping your crop settings to available image data area effectively doing a different export than it was erroneously allowing previously.

[craigjkharris]

Are there any plans to change the ordering of clips when they're put into bins? It doesn't make any sense for the clips to be unsorted & unordered. It also doesn't make sense that the clips be unsorted in the export list.

It would make sense for the clips to be organized in order by name & number.

Should be an easy and needed fix.

Thanks,
Craig

[Deanan]

Are there any plans to change the ordering of clips when they're put into bins? It doesn't make any sense for the clips to be unsorted & unordered. It also doesn't make sense that the clips be unsorted in the export list.

It would make sense for the clips to be organized in order by name & number.

Should be an easy and needed fix.

Thanks,
Craig

Yes there are plans to do that.

[John Redfern]

Delete file not working. 346 Win 7 64

In Windows: When you first open RX 346 after a fresh machine start, you can select and delete a file. But once you have put a clip in the Viewer, you cannot delete any clips at all - until you do a machine re-boot.

Also, In previous versions the last directory open is the default on restart. That is lost and it goes back to root.

Cheers

John

[craigjkharris]

Yes there are plans to do that.

Awesome Deanan. Thanks

[Peter Savage]

just managed to get some time to look at 346. I'm not sure if this is a bug or just a change... In 340 when applying a crop I was able to apply an existing saved crop and then adjust the Origin values in the crop section of the Framing controls tab. In 346, while I can apply the saved crop I can no longer adjust the origin values. This is a bit of an inconvenience as I often want to simply change the x origin when I crop out a 16 x 9 aspect ratio of the 4480 x 1920 frame but keep the 4K resolution. Is this a bug or a change? Thanks.

[Matthew Yaeger]

just managed to get some time to look at 346. I'm not sure if this is a bug or just a change... In 340 when applying a crop I was able to apply an existing saved crop and then adjust the Origin values in the crop section of the Framing controls tab. In 346, while I can apply the saved crop I can no longer adjust the origin values. This is a bit of an inconvenience as I often want to simply change the x origin when I crop out a 16 x 9 aspect ratio of the 4480 x 1920 frame but keep the 4K resolution. Is this a bug or a change? Thanks.

The only time those origin boxes are editable is when the crop setting is set to "Custom".

[Chris Ratledge]

Crop presets have been saving and working ok and we haven't seen what you're reporting. The Sanity checking is for odd situations where you can create crops that were not valid.

Drag and drop has also been in there for a long time.

Both I and the ast. editor on the show we're working have been running 340 (OSX 64bit) on separate machines, and every time you close and reopen the build, the framing preset data is lost. Sometimes the name remains, the parameters are blank, "no crop."

When viewing clips in list view, either in the browser or the bins, you can't lasso select them all. You either have to click then shift-click the whole range, click and 'cmd-A' to select all, or other methods. Lasso works fine in thumbnail view, but it would be nice to do in list view too (which is available in the finder) because you can easily look at multiple clips and see what looks are applied, the clip's dimensions, etc.

[Deanan]

Both I and the ast. editor on the show we're working have been running 340 (OSX 64bit) on separate machines, and every time you close and reopen the build, the framing preset data is lost. Sometimes the name remains, the parameters are blank, "no crop."

When viewing clips in list view, either in the browser or the bins, you can't lasso select them all. You either have to click then shift-click the whole range, click and 'cmd-A' to select all, or other methods. Lasso works fine in thumbnail view, but it would be nice to do in list view too (which is available in the finder) because you can easily look at multiple clips and see what looks are applied, the clip's dimensions, etc.

It could be a permissions problem if it can't save the presets properly. Send the Logs to redcinex at red.

In list view, shift-click and cmd-click also work for multi-selecting.

[Peter Savage]

The only time those origin boxes are editable is when the crop setting is set to "Custom".

hi Mathew, the setting is 'Custom' and I just tried the same thing with build 348 and the numbers are also not editable. IN previous versions they were.