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Thomas Church
10-30-2010, 11:15 PM
Is there any plan of adding features that allow us to replicate for example the look of certain film stock in camera?
Of course, you could throw it all away afterwards due to the RAW workflow, but it would be nice to be able to see in real time what the image will look like.
Bastien Tribalat
10-31-2010, 04:41 AM
I suppose you can tweak a lot the settings in cameras (with gamma curves and stuff like that) so you can get a bot cloer to the film stock you want to look like (if you do you setting based on how are they on the film stock... I know Kodack provides that kind of stuff on their brochures).
Am sorry I have no other answer for your question but I hope that helped a bit.
Stuart English
10-31-2010, 05:38 AM
Experiment with REDCINE-X, and when you fins a look you like, export that to the camera as a .RLK file.
Mark L. Pederson
10-31-2010, 05:59 AM
You can make a look that might suggest a closer representation - but to see (with respect to color) what a film stock looks like - you need a 3D LUT - which will restrict and map certain colors as they appear on that film stock.
If you want to view the live signal with an actual film emulation lut for a specific stock - you can do this with a DAVIO for example. Or, a monitor that accepts 3D LUTS like a Cinetal, etc.
But the nice thing about shooting RAW is to not get forced down the road of "critical color monitoring" on set. When you shoot film - you don't do critical color monitoring on set.
Mark Phelan
10-31-2010, 06:24 AM
But the nice thing about shooting RAW is to not get forced down the road of "critical color monitoring" on set. When you shoot film - you don't do critical color monitoring on set.
Good observant comment.
Albert Astorga Zepeda
10-31-2010, 11:54 PM
Is there any plan of adding features that allow us to replicate for example the look of certain film stock in camera?
Of course, you could throw it all away afterwards due to the RAW workflow, but it would be nice to be able to see in real time what the image will look like.
I say a Looks Module that would accept Looks via SD cards or wi-fi, designed by Red Cine-X or other software red's or third party's would.
this module would save lots of time for ENG and the like kind of work. oh and with pro connectors please. or even better include it in the brain as an option. but I would have to be able to see the results in the LCD.
David Mullen ASC
11-01-2010, 08:17 AM
What a film stock looks like is pretty subjective -- most stocks are negative, so what we see is a positive copy or conversion that has gone through some degree of gamma change and color-correction, so it's the look of the negative stock + the look of the print stock and how it is timed, or the look of the electronic positive version of the negative image.
In other words, just play with the settings to create a look you like, whether or not it happens to be similar to your opinion of what 5219 Vision-3 Kodak looks like.
I've never really understood these programs to make video look like a film stock -- it's so apples and oranges, both from an acquisition standpoint but also from a viewing standpoint. To me, it seems like a shortcut to thinking about the look you want to create, those "instant" pre-programmed looks. I mean, what's so hard about playing with the color saturation, gamma, and black levels to create a look?
Stuart English
11-01-2010, 08:29 AM
I say a Looks Module that would accept Looks via SD cards or wi-fi, designed by Red Cine-X or other software red's or third party's would.
this module would save lots of time for ENG and the like kind of work. oh and with pro connectors please. or even better include it in the brain as an option. but I would have to be able to see the results in the LCD.
You already have that function - it's called the .RLK file on SD Card / CF Card.