lithium-titanate battery

[Manolo S. Navazo]

hey RED-TEAM
i saw you 140Wh Brick battery at the red-store and was asking me if you perhaps have some plans in the future to put some lithium-titanate cells in it.

for more info see here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion_battery#New_technology.2C_new_electrod es

for technical data look this:
http://www.altairnano.com/documents/NanoSafe_Datasheet.pdf

greetings manolo :nuke:

[Arthur Levy]

Monolo-
Good find! Batteries have 20+ year life, 15,000 deep charges, can be charged to over 80% of charge capacity in about a minute, and can operate in temperatures as low as -50 degrees C. Sounds like an ideal match for Red. Waht do they cost and how are the batteries charged?

[jbeale]

If the claims in the datasheet are true, this battery tech would be an amazing improvement for overall lifetime and fast charging ability. However, at 17 kg for a 1.2 kWh module it is less than half the energy density (Watt-hours per kilogram) as compared with lithium-ion batteries.

[Manolo S. Navazo]

Monolo-
Good find! Batteries have 20+ year life, 15,000 deep charges, can be charged to over 80% of charge capacity in about a minute, and can operate in temperatures as low as -50 degrees C. Sounds like an ideal match for Red. Waht do they cost and how are the batteries charged?

i don't know the cost man,
but i know there are two car-companys jet which fabricates his cars with those batteries.

http://www.lightningcarcompany.com/

http://www.phoenixmotorcars.com/

greetz manolo:w00t:

[oldphart]

i don't know the cost man,
but i know there are two car-companys jet which fabricates his cars with those batteries.

http://www.lightningcarcompany.com/

http://www.phoenixmotorcars.com/

greetz manolo:w00t:

Know as in "I have tried tha actual cars" or just "I have seen their hype designed to attract investors"? There is a lot of difference.

This technology was invented in 2005. With an industry average development cycle, that means mass production around 2030 if the technology proves viable. Lithium batteries were proposed in the 1960s, and the first commercial batteries were sold in 1991.

Keep in mind that the Red camera is based on old technologies. That is why it is able to be truely revolutionary. If somebody had tried to build it just after CMOS photodetectors or Bayer filtering had been first developed, it would have been an expensive failure with low reliability and poor quality. Good state of the art technology is usually based on old science, and bleeding edge is usually unreliable and expensive.