RED HQ in jeopardy?

[Noah Kadner]

There is a major wildfire burning in Orange County within about five miles of Red HQ. Anyone hear if it's in danger? Jarred- you guys ok?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21412201/

oops sorry for the dupe thread-

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5376


-Noah

[David Battistella]

Guys,

Be safe. I hope all is OK.

David

[Zakaree Sandberg]

worst chapped lips right now...
I hate santa ana winds!

[Rick Darge]

Yea, I keep generating static while I drive my car, only to be zapped when I close the door. I hate them too..

[Brian Reisdorf]

They'll be fine....they're in a pretty densely populated area, so it'd basically have to be Southern California Apocalypse for that area to go up. Even then, those of us in so cal would have a lot more to worry about considering that most of orange county would probably be in flames at that point.

[Mike Jacks]

From where red sits, I'm sure they will be fine. If red does get hit, it will have to take out quite a lot of homes and businesses first, or take a giant leap across the homes :-P. Either way, my house in Irvine would probably get hit before RED does...mmm...smells like camping!

[Tim H.]

However, Oakley is much closer to the danger.

[Don Woods]

No Fun. Down trees all around my place

[Kevin Halverson]

A lot of trees down around here too along with ash and dust.

Looks like San Diego county is getting the worst of it. Just
heard a report that 250,000 people are being evacuated.

[Tim H.]

Actually Lake Arrowhead seems to have the most homes lost. Zero air support. Really a sad day around here.

[Gavin Greenwalt]

You build your home in an area that burns... every single year... eventually you might need to cash in that insurance.

I hope everyone gets out ok but I really have little sympathy for the home owners. Just like I don't feel bad for people who live below sea level, in flood plains, in the path of 3 annual hurricanes, middle of the desert...

There are some homeowners here in Seattle who are complaining that their property floods every year. The city has offered to buy their property but they won't sell, they're demanding a pump system be installed which would cost more than 5x the value of their property and homes. Reminds me of Monty Python and the search for the Holy Grail. "People told me I was daft for building a castle in a bloody swamp."

In a few months we'll be hearing about the "horrific flooding" in california.

I only view once in a decade events as a natural disasters, anything more is just seasonal status quo.

[Brook Willard]

You build your home in an area that burns... every single year... eventually you might need to cash in that insurance.

I hope everyone gets out ok but I really have little sympathy for the home owners. Just like I don't feel bad for people who live below sea level, in flood plains, in the path of 3 annual hurricanes, middle of the desert...

Not to play that "how dare you!?" card, but I have two friends who lost their homes today. It's not just the people who live off in the hills this time [that happens every year]. This time around it's spreading into more populated areas - into areas that don't fall into that "well what did you expect?" area. These aren't the areas that burn every year... this is as bad as anybody I know can remember ever seeing it.

Remember, more than a quarter million people have been evacuated. The status quo drops some ash on Orange County and makes us wash our cars. This one's different.

[Gavin Greenwalt]

Fair enough. On TV it just looks like the exact same people every year bemoaning the loss of their home (usually followed by their 'heroic resolve' announcing to not let nature get them down and their intent to rebuild.)

[Brook Willard]

I agree with you there... The networks proclaiming the apocalypse are absurd... And staying in your house when you're told to evacuate doesn't make you a hero... It makes you an idiot.

[Sanjin Jukic]

"The sky was just red. Everywhere I looked was red, glowing.
Law enforcement came barreling in with police cars with loudspeakers telling everyone to get out now,"
said Ronnie Leigh, 55, who fled her mobile home in northern Los Angeles County as smoke darkened
the sky over the nearby ridge line.
LINK>> (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071023/ap_on_re_us/california_wildfires)

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20071022/capt.sge.miy68.221007195621.photo05.photo.default-512x341.jpg
Michele Beard fled her home with her husband, mother-in-law and three older children.
"It just lit up the whole mountainside fiery red," said Beard, 48.
"I had never seen anything like that so close before."
LINK>> (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071022/ap_on_re_us/california_wildfires)



http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20071022/capt.sge.mil68.221007183528.photo02.photo.default-512x337.jpg
Fire RED mountains in Orange County.

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20071022/capt.71cd22343a7e4e97967d4aa698fd345a.california_w ildfires_wxs110.jpg
California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, at podium,
addresses the media about the Southern California fires
at the fire Command Center in Malibu.

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20071022/2007_10_22t120924_400x450_us_california_wildfire.j pg
Fire from the satelitte.

[Jon Corcuera]

I bet Schwarzenegger started the fire with one of his cigars :D

[Jay A. Kelley]

Mark my words, this will have a major impact on deliveries, I don't know how, but it will

Jay

[Anthony Gratl]

This time around it's spreading into more populated areas - into areas that don't fall into that "well what did you expect?" area. These aren't the areas that burn every year... this is as bad as anybody I know can remember ever seeing it.

Remember, more than a quarter million people have been evacuated. The status quo drops some ash on Orange County and makes us wash our cars. This one's different.


Well, this is what global warming is bringing us isn't it? Scientists have been predicting this for some time. These weather situations seem to be getting more and more intense, from tornados in strange places to stronger hurricanes, in combination with drier conditions, i dunno, this shouldn't really come as a surprise to anyone who believes in scientific fact...rebuilding in areas that are fire prone is like living in tornado alley.
And I have to disagree with you on one thing Brook, while it may not be 'the apocalypse' persay (don't like that word as it sounds biblical) we sure are headed in a direction fraught with danger for humans.....

this from the national broadcaster in canada

http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2007/10/23/science-carbon-sink.html

I wish everyone in the affected area all the best, but for the love of anything, rebuilding is not the answer to this problem. We need to start living in a sustainable way!! Damn! What is so complicated about understanding that?? (this isn't directed at anyone in this thread, I'm speaking my mind here) :ranting2:

[Kevin Halverson]

The "Santa Ana" wind conditions that we are having here are an annual occurrence and shouldn't be a surprise to anyone familiar with the area. This is a natural phenomena and there is nothing that can be done either locally or globally that will change this. What has changed is the density of California's population and the areas that are being populated.

None the less, this is one of the worst and earliest that I have encountered and I have lived in this area since the mid 1960's. The number of people that are being effected and displaced is greater than any other time that I am aware of. I have family and friends that have been directly impacted by this, my business has been disrupted, but other than choosing to live somewhere else, there is little that anyone can do but to abide by the brush clearing recommendations (if you live in a more rural area) and hope for the best.

[Kevin C]

photos taken from Foothill Ranch. 5mins from RED HQ1584

1585

[Sanjin Jukic]

How RED HQ is protected from the fire in that a bunker kind of constructed building?

[Paul Leeming]

Sanjin, Red isn't headquartered in the Oakley building, which I assume you're referring to. Red lives in a fairly non-descript technology park type building in Lake Forest.

In fact another post here alluded to Oakley being in much greater danger than Red is.

HTH

Paul

[Brook Willard]

photos taken from Foothill Ranch. 5mins from RED HQ1584

1585

Whew, that's just nasty. Has evac been recommended yet?

[Kevin C]

we are safe and doesn't look like we are in harms way. we will keep you all posted. stay safe!

[Tim H.]

I'm not one to get political or debate science but Southern California is a desert on the coast. It has been this way forever. The huge El Nino winter we had years back probably kept fires away for some time but our usual dry conditions our here just like they were 30 or 50 years ago. The diffrence now is that we are running out of room and people are building further in the foot hills and more "dangerous" fire prone areas.

Natural fires have existed since the beginning of time, they are natures way of clearing the earth, seeding it, and growing new. This is not mans fault. We just are suffering the results.

Remember, Dinosours once roamed this land (before man and global warming caused by man) but they are completely gone now. What caused this?

[Sanjin Jukic]

Sanjin, Red isn't headquartered in the Oakley building, which I assume you're referring to. Red lives in a fairly non-descript technology park type building in Lake Forest.

In fact another post here alluded to Oakley being in much greater danger than Red is.

HTH

Paul


Hopefully RED and also Oakley that making the final RED lens design is safe now????!!!